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Author Topic: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation  (Read 176053 times)

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quaddie47

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It appears there are other reporters still interested in this saga.

Adventist Today has reported on the 3abn matter in the past when other Adventist Media were reluctant to even acknowledge the situation.
 
On July 29th, Marcel Schwantes posted an article titled:


3ABN EXONERATED BY IRS INVESTIGATION

The article is available to Atoday subscribers at the following link:

http://www.atoday.com/content/3abn-exonerated-irs-investigation

For the non-subscriber, the article is as follows:

Adventist Today is in receipt of a letter which addresses a topic which has been of interest to a number of our readers about the on-going story of the 3ABN ministry. We are attaching this letter (in PDF below) that was recently posted publicly on the 3ABNtalk forum.

Gerald Duffy, an attorney for 3ABN, writes the letter to 3ABN Chairman, Dr. Walter Thompson regarding the nine-month IRS investigation which reviewed all the financial records of 3ABN between 2000-2006.

It appears that, for now, 3ABN and Danny Shelton have been cleared from allegations of financial wrongdoing.

Here are excerpts from the attorney's letter, which you can read by clicking on the link below:

"The offer by the investigating agencies to destroy all of the copies produced brings closure to the investigation in a manner favorable to 3ABN and Danny Shelton. Contrary to statements being made by enemies of 3ABN and Danny Shelton's ministry, no adverse actions either civil or otherwise have resulted from the inquiry."

An announcement was also made by 3ABN president, Jim Gilley, on a live broadcast of a 3ABN program a few weeks ago. Gilley states on the program that "our attorneys called with the very good news that the investigation was now complete. it was over. That is right. We were found to not have any adjustments which needed to be made. There were no penalties put upon us, nor on Danny Shelton. We were all found to be totally square and above board."

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In order to avoid breaking any forum rules I have removed the link to the 3abntalk forum but the Atoday article does directly link to the Duffy letter located at the 3abntalk web site.

Although there will still be those who doubt what seems to be a reality, the story has now found acceptance in the Adventist media and by reporters who I think we can fairly assume check their facts before publishing. 

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Edited only to correct formatting problem of text. - Daryl :)
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Wow! I was certain there would be a flurry of indignant and/or celebratory posting but all I'm hearing is....

Are we saving our comments for the night shift or is there a move to acquiesce?
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There still is no exoneration from the IRS, according to Duffy's letter. And no explanation for Danny's 2005 claim that he had reported a donation of property as cash on his 2003 return.

And according to Duffy's letter, no documents dealing with the 1998 house deal were produced to the IRS.
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I am deeply thankful to the Lord, Adventist Today and to Marcel Schwantes.
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There still is no exoneration from the IRS, according to Duffy's letter. And no explanation for Danny's 2005 claim that he had reported a donation of property as cash on his 2003 return.

And according to Duffy's letter, no documents dealing with the 1998 house deal were produced to the IRS.

Sometimes, one can be moving forward and still not arriving anywhere.  You must be getting awfully tired....porbresito
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Facts are facts.
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Wasn't it Adventist Today that first broke the story of the questionable disposition of a grand piano that once belonged to 3ABN?  Didn't Dan Shelton accuse them of lying?


It appears there are other reporters still interested in this saga.

Adventist Today has reported on the 3abn matter in the past when other Adventist Media were reluctant to even acknowledge the situation.
 
On July 29th, Marcel Schwantes posted an article titled:


3ABN EXONERATED BY IRS INVESTIGATION

The article is available to Atoday subscribers at the following link:

http://www.atoday.com/content/3abn-exonerated-irs-investigation

For the non-subscriber, the article is as follows:

Adventist Today is in receipt of a letter which addresses a topic which has been of interest to a number of our readers about the
on-going story of the 3ABN ministry. We are attaching this letter (in PDF below) that was recently posted publicly on the 3ABNtalk forum.

Gerald Duffy, an attorney for 3ABN, writes the letter to 3ABN Chairman, Dr. Walter Thompson regarding the nine-month IRS investigation which reviewed all the financial records of 3ABN between 2000-2006.

It appears that, for now, 3ABN and Danny Shelton have been cleared from allegations of financial wrongdoing.

Here are excerpts from the attorney's letter, which you can read by clicking on the link below:

"The offer by the investigating agencies to destroy all of the copies produced brings closure to the investigation in a manner
favorable to 3ABN and Danny Shelton. Contrary to statements being made by enemies of 3ABN and Danny Shelton's ministry,
no adverse actions either civil or otherwise have resulted from the inquiry."

An announcement was also made by 3ABN president, Jim Gilley, on a live broadcast of a 3ABN program a few weeks ago. Gilley
states on the program that "our attorneys called with the very good news that the investigation was now complete. it was over. That is right. We were found to not have any adjustments which needed to be made. There were no penalties put upon us, nor on Danny Shelton. We were all found to be totally square and above board."

*************

In order to avoid breaking any forum rules I have removed the link to the 3abntalk forum but the Atoday article does directly link to the Duffy letter located at the 3abntalk web site.

Although there will still be those who doubt what seems to be a reality, the story has now found acceptance in the Adventist media and by reporters who I think we can fairly assume check their facts before publishing. 


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Adventist Today is reporting news. The news is that Duffy wrote a letter and Gilley made an announcement. There is only one comment in there that seems to be commentary and that one is modified with the word "appears." They are doing their job reporting the news as they should.

Danny and Walt have have had harsh words for them in the past and probably will in the future. Sometimes folks want their side and only their side reported, and only in a manner that will vilify the other side and sanctify their own, but Adventist Today is simply reporting what they see.
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Adventist Today is reporting news. The news is that Duffy wrote a letter and Gilley made an announcement. There is only one comment in there that seems to be commentary and that one is modified with the word "appears." They are doing their job reporting the news as they should.

Danny and Walt have have had harsh words for them in the past and probably will in the future. Sometimes folks want their side and only their side reported, and only in a manner that will vilify the other side and sanctify their own, but Adventist Today is simply reporting what they see.

Good point Habanero.  I don’t see this newsflash as an editorial where Adventist Today is taking a position either.

I do think the headline for the piece “3ABN Exonerated by IRS Investigation” should not leave any confusion as to what they consider the news to be.
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Problem is that there is yet to be any word from the IRS that 3ABN is exonerated. So the headline is misleading.
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Problem is that there is yet to be any word from the IRS that 3ABN is exonerated. So the headline is misleading.

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"I repeat, there is no U.S. presence in Baghdad."
—Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, (AKA Bahgdad Bob")


OK, I see what you're saying. Just because Ronnie Shelton, Jim Gilley, Doug Batchelor, Gerald Duffy or anyone else denies that there are infractions, it doesn't mean they aren't there.
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Problem is that there is yet to be any word from the IRS that 3ABN is exonerated. So the headline is misleading.

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Jeanette, could you please explain what you mean?

The simple fact is that, according to Duffy's letter, the IRS has not issued any statement saying that they could not find one infraction or one discrepancy in all of Danny's and 3ABN's books. Unless there is something more, based on what has been stated thus far, the IRS has therefore not exonerated 3ABN.
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"I repeat, there is no U.S. presence in Baghdad."
—Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, (AKA Bahgdad Bob")


OK, I see what you're saying. Just because Ronnie Shelton, Jim Gilley, Doug Batchelor, Gerald Duffy or anyone else denies that there are infractions, it doesn't mean they aren't there.

I was just about to ask you if you would call this humor or misdirection via tortured parsing but see that GN has commented far more eloquently above.   :dunno:

For those who may have forgotten Baghdad Bob, here is an excerpt from the wiki:

When asked where he had got his information he replied, "authentic sources—many authentic sources". He pointed out that he "was a professional, doing his job".

Mr. al-Sahhaf has since become a symbol for corporate and other communications that stubbornly refuse to acknowledge facts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Saeed_al-Sahaf

Also see:  http://www.cfif.org/htdocs/freedomline/current/in_our_opinion/baghdad_bob.htm


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