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Fran

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Re: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation
« Reply #225 on: September 16, 2008, 06:31:45 AM »

Yeah, that could very well be possible, huh?  Thanks, Bob.
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Re: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation
« Reply #226 on: September 16, 2008, 06:41:54 AM »

Your still avoiding the question Fran. "Why in the world would the IRS promise >you< they would notify you as soon as possible once the investigation was over?"

Mr. Pickle, yes you could, save the fact that numerous individuals whose reputations would be significantly harmed if the facts were not true have made public announcements about the end of the investigation. It didn't turn out as you had hoped, it severely damaged your defense, thus you continue to try and convince people that your postulating that because the IRS didn't publicly announce anything that it must still be investigating Mr. Shelton and 3ABN. A classic case of not letting go once you have been proven wrong.

Doug Batchelor, Jim Gilley, Att'y Duffy have all clearly stated that the investigation is ended, resulting in no recovery and no citations of wrong doing. These three individuals carry a lot more credibility than does yourself.

Yeah, that could very well be possible, huh?  Thanks, Bob.
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Re: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation
« Reply #227 on: September 16, 2008, 07:04:04 AM »

At least Doug and Ronnie Shelton went so far as to lead their readers to conclude that the IRS had concluded that there was not one single infraction or discrepancy in either 3ABN or Danny's accounting or tax filings. And that cannot possibly be true.

No one has thus far proven me wrong regarding Danny's reporting a donation of property as being cash being an infraction or discrepancy, or of 3ABN's 1998 sale of a house at a reported loss as probably being a section 4958 excess benefit transaction. You certainly haven't, and neither has Ronnie, Doug, Gilley, or Duffy.

And if rent from a restaurant, barber shop, and Tae Kwon Do business constitute unrelated business income, then if 3ABN failed to file a Form 990-T, that looks like a discrepancy or infraction as well.
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Fran

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Re: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation
« Reply #228 on: September 16, 2008, 07:33:44 AM »

Bob, I believe the auditors from the Property Tax lawsuit said they failed to even record lease/rent income at all. 

Where did that money go? 

It was not listed/declared when the auditors came through.

Then they did start declaring rent income, but it decrease yearly thereafter.  Why a decrease?  Rents go up not down! 
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Re: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation
« Reply #229 on: September 16, 2008, 10:15:41 AM »

Just in case you missed it, since there has no answer . . .

"Why in the world would the IRS promise >you< they would notify you as soon as possible once the investigation was over?"



Bob, I believe the auditors from the Property Tax lawsuit said they failed to even record lease/rent income at all. 

Where did that money go? 

It was not listed/declared when the auditors came through.

Then they did start declaring rent income, but it decrease yearly thereafter.  Why a decrease?  Rents go up not down! 
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Re: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation
« Reply #230 on: September 16, 2008, 11:21:57 AM »

Anyman;

You answer my question and I will answer yours!

Go over to 3ABNTalk and resurrect all of my deleted posts and I might just be able to converse with you, Breezy, Sunny & Penny.! 

I see you folks over there claim I had credibility.  I have never claimed to have any credibility.  Shame on 3ABN Talk!  It is hard to claim what I don't have.

Please tell Sunny that I did not "suggest".  What I did was "question."  There is a big difference in the words.  They need to post all of my posts for them to be able to claim credibility for themselves over on 3ABNTalk.  Pieces and parts are not really fair are they?

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Re: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation
« Reply #231 on: September 16, 2008, 11:43:38 AM »

I have no obligation to negotiate with you.

You are attempting to divert the thread from its natural course with your completely OT game. You were asked a question, your failure to respond, and the arrogance evident in your demand that I answer a question in order to have you answer my honest and relevant question leads one to wonder if there is an answer . . . and if there is if it is an embarrassing one causing you to avoid responding.

As for 3ABNTalk, if you have a problem with the admins and mods over there - then go over there and talk to them about it.


Anyman;

You answer my question and I will answer yours!

Go over to 3ABNTalk and resurrect all of my deleted posts and I might just be able to converse with you, Breezy, Sunny & Penny.! 

I see you folks over there claim I had credibility.  I have never claimed to have any credibility.  Shame on 3ABN Talk!  It is hard to claim what I don't have.

Please tell Sunny that I did not "suggest".  What I did was "question."  There is a big difference in the words.  They need to post all of my posts for them to be able to claim credibility for themselves over on 3ABNTalk.  Pieces and parts are not really fair are they?


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Re: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation
« Reply #232 on: September 16, 2008, 12:35:41 PM »

It is kind of frustrating in litigation to continually ask for answers to questions but never receive them.  :dunno:THEN  you have to file motions and spend more money and time to get those answers.  :help:Sometimes it seems parties just want to harass the other side by not answering the questions. I understand by information at Advent Talk that Gailon and Bob are expierencing similiar frustration of failure of others of answering questions. That may have changed recently with the declaration of production time. ;D

Anyman, you might have to spend more time and money to get your answer. :hamster:
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Re: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation
« Reply #233 on: September 16, 2008, 06:31:59 PM »

I have no obligation to negotiate with you.

You are attempting to divert the thread from its natural course with your completely OT game. You were asked a question, your failure to respond, and the arrogance evident in your demand that I answer a question in order to have you answer my honest and relevant question leads one to wonder if there is an answer . . . and if there is if it is an embarrassing one causing you to avoid responding.

As for 3ABNTalk, if you have a problem with the admins and mods over there - then go over there and talk to them about it.

No Comment on paragraph #1.

No Comment on paragraph #2.

I already did that. No Comment on paragraph #3.


Anyman;

You answer my question and I will answer yours!

Go over to 3ABNTalk and resurrect all of my deleted posts and I might just be able to converse with you, Breezy, Sunny & Penny.! 

I see you folks over there claim I had credibility.  I have never claimed to have any credibility.  Shame on 3ABN Talk!  It is hard to claim what I don't have.

Please tell Sunny that I did not "suggest".  What I did was "question."  There is a big difference in the words.  They need to post all of my posts for them to be able to claim credibility for themselves over on 3ABNTalk.  Pieces and parts are not really fair are they?


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Re: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation
« Reply #234 on: September 16, 2008, 07:44:17 PM »

No Comment on paragraph #1.

No comment was requested.

No Comment on paragraph #2.

No comment was requested.

I already did that. No Comment on paragraph #3.

No comment was requested.

So that being cleared up, there is one thing that isn't. You still have not divulged why the IRS would promise to contact you on the outcome of their investigation. What relationship do you have with the IRS that you would be privy to the results of their work?

Now with your ardent refusal to answer such a simple question, one I will add that results from your very own comments, one has to wonder why you refuse to answer the question.

Could it be:

1. That the reality of the situation has you concerned that the claims of Gilley, Duffy, and Bachelor are indeed truth.

2. A little window into your character.

We'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that it is the first and that you realize that your phone is not ringing because there is no reason for them to call you - that you are growing aware that they are not ever going to call you. One wonders why you haven't been provided some information by your inside informant as well.


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Re: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation
« Reply #235 on: September 16, 2008, 09:40:13 PM »

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No Comment on paragraph #1.

No comment was requested.


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No Comment on paragraph #2.

No comment was requested.


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I already did that. No Comment on paragraph #3.

No comment was requested.

So that being cleared up, there is one thing that isn't. You still have not divulged why the IRS would promise to contact you on the outcome of their investigation. What relationship do you have with the IRS that you would be privy to the results of their work?

Now with your ardent refusal to answer such a simple question, one I will add that results from your very own comments, one has to wonder why you refuse to answer the question.

Could it be:

1. That the reality of the situation has you concerned that the claims of Gilley, Duffy, and Bachelor are indeed truth.

2. A little window into your character.

We'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that it is the first and that you realize that your phone is not ringing because there is no reason for them to call you - that you are growing aware that they are not ever going to call you. One wonders why you haven't been provided some information by your inside informant as well.


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Re: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation
« Reply #236 on: September 17, 2008, 12:21:46 AM »

Looks like a standoff. Fran cant or wont show proof of her IRS statement, and 3ABN cant or wont provide proof of their IRS claims. I don't think anyone is holding their breath for 3ABN being able to show proof any more than Anyman is holding his breath for Fran to cough up answers to his question.
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Re: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation
« Reply #237 on: September 17, 2008, 12:26:25 AM »

Ain't life grand?
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Re: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation
« Reply #238 on: September 17, 2008, 02:34:26 AM »

Ain't life grand?

File a claim and then report back!
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Re: Approved SDA Media Outlet Publishes an Article about the IRS Investigation
« Reply #239 on: September 17, 2008, 02:54:54 AM »

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