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Wednesday was the first meeting and 3ABN broke a record on the number of people there, over 1000 on the first night! They expect 1800 by Sabbath. I'd say there are a lot of full motels in the area.
Someone tells me that it looked like there was 200 or 250 people there. Do you have any pictures that show 1000 there?
C'mon Bob. Even those here that hate 3abn that watched can tell you different. I just got back late last night from attending the 3abn campmeeting. Am so happy to be able now to answer some of your questions that have been posted the last few days.
1. There was an incredible number of people there from opening night on. Sabbath was close to 2000 people.
2. The check presented to Jim G. on opening night was a total of all sales from the donation department, not just ebay, for the past 9 - 12 months. It was a giant mock check representing the sum of those sales. I visited the sale barn and spoke with Mr. Chance myself. They had an incredible array of items and were extremely busy there.
3. For FRAN. Never ever has there been a claim for 2.4 million or whatever it was she quoted. The quote was more than 1/2 million for approximately 4 years of work. So Fran's claim of how donations have really "went down" was totally false.
4. For FRAN. The gift shop on ebay was never called don_3abn. That was the user ID. Anything sold on ebay before the Chance's took over was sold in the normal auction fashion as there was no store until the Chance's started one. From day one the store was called 3 Angels gift shop and still remains with that name. Again, The claims by Fran that the store name was changed to hide bad feedback is 100% false. Let's go over it again for clarification.
don_3abn was the user ID as there was no store until the Chance's started one. Anything sold before that time was sold in the regular way, not via a store.
5. For FRAN. From Mr. Chance directly: The beginning of a store was a learning experience. Learning the best way to sell, what to sell, and what payment methods to take. They had to learn about paypal and its process. In the beginning they accepted checks, money orders, credit card and then paypal. After a time they found that buyers were taking an excessive amount of time to mail in checks and money orders so eventually, they quit taking those methods of payments. Every month the invoices from ebay and paypal are downloaded, printed out and given to the accounting department, along with copies of the actual sales, buyers name and address and when the item was sold and then shipped. All of these records are turned over to Accounting every month. Credit card payments are not taken by the donations department but directly by the accounting department. Accounting is the number listed on ebay to call for cc payment. Each item that is sold is then entered into the database that has the donor's information and constituent number. The item sold is recorded along with the date it was sold and the price it was sold for. Those records are given to the Accounting dept every month so that the donor can be receipted for the sale of their item.
Rather complicated isn't it? Quite a paper trail. Having read all of the speculation and allegations concerning this (as well as many others) I made a point to ask the questions and received the answers in an open and concise manner. I got these answers straight from the "horses mouth" as they say. How wrong you all have been about this and so many other things.
Several board members were in attendance. When I ask one (without trying to seem like I was just prying) if any of the subjects voted on, during the board meeting, resulted in any kind of tie vote. This board member answered absolutely not and couldn't imagine where I would hear such false information.
It was a fantastic and spirit filled campmeeting. I talked to many many people there who couldn't wait until the fall campmeeting. That includes me!
I talked for a minute with Pastor Gilley. He said Danny had a nice break while building his house but he wanted to get him to spend a lot more time on the air. He said people are "demanding" it. By the crowds surrounding him, Jim and lots of other 3abner's, I could see he was telling the truth.
Now you can all argue with your allegations and speculations. But most reasonable people are going to believe someone who was there, talked to these people and personally experienced the spirit filled campmeeting. As opposed to your guesses, accusations and rumors.
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