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Bob Pickle

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Re: eBay Sales Controversy?
« Reply #90 on: June 23, 2008, 06:44:00 AM »

Eduard,

Imagine the implications if Danny is not personally footing half the bill of this stupid lawsuit, a lawsuit that accuses us of falsely accusing Danny of using donations to/assets of 3ABN for his own personal, private use!
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Re: eBay Sales Controversy?
« Reply #91 on: June 23, 2008, 07:20:55 AM »

Something to think about:

In this day and age if one does not have money to defend themselves and actually do have a case that can be won there should be no problem finding an attorney. Some attorneys will take such a case because they can get their fees from the settlement. That should tell people why the defendants are pro se?

By the way, the defendants seem to have no problem with taking donors money if they were to win the case.
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Re: eBay Sales Controversy?
« Reply #92 on: June 23, 2008, 08:09:27 AM »

No, that isn't something to think about. This is the American system, not the British system.
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Re: eBay Sales Controversy?
« Reply #93 on: June 23, 2008, 10:14:51 AM »


Bob,

Sooner or later we are going to find out the origin of those huge sums Danny Shelton will need in order to pay his attorneys untill the end of this lawsuit. I would not be surprised if he breaks the million barrier.

Eduard
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Re: eBay Sales Controversy?
« Reply #94 on: June 23, 2008, 12:26:55 PM »

Don't think he already has?
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Re: eBay Sales Controversy?
« Reply #95 on: June 23, 2008, 12:51:27 PM »


Bob,

You are more familiar with attorney fees and such. I was just speculating. He might as well. I have heard of some attorneys who charge $ 500 per billable hour. I assume that retainer fees must be higher. I am sure that the money clock moves faster for Danny than his electric meter.

Eduard
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Re: eBay Sales Controversy?
« Reply #96 on: June 23, 2008, 01:21:12 PM »

I seem to remember that last summer's computer expert was around $250 and hour when they do forensics.
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Re: eBay Sales Controversy?
« Reply #97 on: June 23, 2008, 04:10:16 PM »

"Sam,"

I am not in your gang, so, please, don't call me Ed. Call me by the name I am listed in this forum. And excuse me if I don't have time to use as many words as you did to respond to your message. I believe in NON MULTA, SED MULTUM. Whatever you said about attorney's (sic! - wrong use of apostrophe), doesn't cancel the basic truth:

Did Danny Shelton retain ELEVEN ATTORNEYS AGAINST TWO BROKE AMATEURS? ELEVEN ATTORNEYS!!!!! ELEVEN ATTORNEYS!!! Do you have any vague idea how much each of these attorneys charge per hour? Do you have any idea how much it has cost Danny Shelton to keep these attorneys on his payroll? When people have trouble filling their tanks with gas, Danny Shelton spends HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS on a FRIVOLOUS lawsuit. How can he afford it? Is he a millionaire? Ah, I remember, Sera and others said that the money is donated to him. Even if this is so, shouldn't he, Danny Shelton, God's prophet of our time, spend the donated money WISELY, proclaiming God's message for our time instead of THROWING THE MONEY AWAY defending his damaged beyond repair reputation? Why doesn't he let God take care of his reputation the way Isaiah, Jeremiah, Paul, and other men of the Bible did?

WHAT DOES DANNY SHELTON HAVE TO HIDE THAT HE HIRED AN ARMY OF ATTORNEYS TO PROTECT HIM?

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Eduard,  no need to holler.  We can read just fine without the caps.

When someone hires a firm, that firm needs cocounsel in every state where actions occur involving their client.


Bob, which of these attorneys are redundant and why?
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Re: eBay Sales Controversy?
« Reply #98 on: June 23, 2008, 05:59:03 PM »



"GrandmaNettie,"


You forgot a few very important things. In the first place attorneys cannot be "redundant" (faulty predication), but their activities can overlap. In the second place, those attorneys are not paid by the bunch. EACH OF THEM IS PAID A FORTUNE, INDIVIDUALLY! So, if there is "redundancy" that condition does not affect their payments.  And the total bill Danny Shelton is going to pay all those ELEVEN ATTORNEYS from the money the donors send to 3ABN is going to be COLOSSAL!

Eduard

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Re: eBay Sales Controversy?
« Reply #99 on: June 23, 2008, 06:24:24 PM »

Unless all that money is coming from one donor's pocket for such a purpose.

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« Reply #100 on: June 23, 2008, 06:52:04 PM »

I have heard the possibility exists that the pocket in question may have been sewn shut...  :dunno:


Unless all that money is coming from one donor's pocket for such a purpose.
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Re: eBay Sales Controversy?
« Reply #101 on: June 23, 2008, 09:31:46 PM »

"Sam,"

I am not in your gang, so, please, don't call me Ed. Call me by the name I am listed in this forum. And excuse me if I don't have time to use as many words as you did to respond to your message. I believe in NON MULTA, SED MULTUM. Whatever you said about attorney's (sic! - wrong use of apostrophe), doesn't cancel the basic truth:

Did Danny Shelton retain ELEVEN ATTORNEYS AGAINST TWO BROKE AMATEURS? ELEVEN ATTORNEYS!!!!! ELEVEN ATTORNEYS!!! Do you have any vague idea how much each of these attorneys charge per hour? Do you have any idea how much it has cost Danny Shelton to keep these attorneys on his payroll? When people have trouble filling their tanks with gas, Danny Shelton spends HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS on a FRIVOLOUS lawsuit. How can he afford it? Is he a millionaire? Ah, I remember, Sera and others said that the money is donated to him. Even if this is so, shouldn't he, Danny Shelton, God's prophet of our time, spend the donated money WISELY, proclaiming God's message for our time instead of THROWING THE MONEY AWAY defending his damaged beyond repair reputation? Why doesn't he let God take care of his reputation the way Isaiah, Jeremiah, Paul, and other men of the Bible did?

WHAT DOES DANNY SHELTON HAVE TO HIDE THAT HE HIRED AN ARMY OF ATTORNEYS TO PROTECT HIM?

Eduard






Eduard,  no need to holler.  We can read just fine without the caps.

When someone hires a firm, that firm needs cocounsel in every state where actions occur involving their client.


Bob, which of these attorneys are redundant and why?


They will need far more than they have now to take care of all the issues that lay ahead.

Gailon Arthur Joy
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Re: eBay Sales Controversy?
« Reply #102 on: June 23, 2008, 09:57:41 PM »

Eduard,

Bob is saying there are an excessive number of 3abn attorneys being used on this case. 

Per American Heritage (R) Dictionary:

redundant

ADJECTIVE:

1. Exceeding what is necessary or natural; superfluous.
2. Needlessly wordy or repetitive in expression: a student paper filled with redundant phrases.
3. Of or relating to linguistic redundancy.
4. Chiefly British Dismissed or laid off from work, as for being no longer needed.
5. Electronics Of or involving redundancy in electronic equipment.
6. Of or involving redundancy in the transmission of messages.


They will need far more than they have now to take care of all the issues that lay ahead.

Gailon Arthur Joy

How so, Gailon?  If it is to handle further actions you and Bob will be bringing then I can certainly understand how more attorneys will be needed. 

Will Bob, Eduard and others be continuing to criticize the number of attorneys needed to address all of the issues that lay ahead?
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Re: eBay Sales Controversy?
« Reply #103 on: June 24, 2008, 04:24:30 AM »


"GrandmaNettie,"


You are confused. You are using words you don't understand, and you are misinterpreting what Bob is saying. Which attorneys are "unnecessary"? Because of the complexity of the case, and the deep hole Danny Shelton is in, all the ELEVEN ATTORNEYS have been hired to deal with the particulars of the legislation in different states. None of them is "unnecessary." And none of them does "redundant" work. If they were "unnecessary," they would not continue to be retained. The fact is that Danny Shelton is so DESPERATE about what is going to happen to him in the near future that he is afraid that eleven attorneys might not even be enough to defend him against TWO BROKE AMATEURS! Trust Joy on this: Danny Shelton will probably have to hire soon even more attorneys to protect him from the trouble he caused himself when he sued Pickle and Joy!

The question remains: Considering the ENORMOUS SUMS OF MONEY necessary to retain this WHOLE ARMY OF ATTORNEYS, from where does Danny Shelton get to money to pay them? Is it from donations received by 3ABN? Is it from Bill Gates' foundation? We know that Pickle and Joy don't have enough money even to pay for the absolutely necessary fees for this lawsuit. People have just helped them with a few thousand dollars. Pickle and Joy are broke.

Non-profit organizations are required to be transparent with their finances. Such information should be in the public domain. So, sooner or later we will find out what is the source of the FORTUNE Danny Shelton is spending to repair his beyond repair reputation. Imagine what is going to happen then! Or, don't imagine! You might have nightmares for a long time - even after all this mess is over!

Eduard



 
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Re: eBay Sales Controversy?
« Reply #104 on: June 24, 2008, 09:51:34 AM »

I wonder just how many Tax Lawyers he has.
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