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[Bob Pickle]

No, Ian, I am the same person who has not hesitated in the past to stand up for truth, righteousness, and the oppressed.

The challenge here is that I've never been in a situation before where a problem gets dragged out so long because the one in the wrong filed a suit. Dirk Anderson sure never sued me in order to try to shut me up.

[Sam]

No, Ian, I am the same person who has not hesitated in the past to stand up for truth, righteousness, and the oppressed.

The challenge here is that I've never been in a situation before where a problem gets dragged out so long because the one in the wrong filed a suit. Dirk Anderson sure never sued me in order to try to shut me up.

If anyone is hiding something, filing suit is the last action they would take. If you have something to hide you certainly wouldn't want to risk those nasty depos and all of that very telling discovery.  The fact that 3abn chose to pursue a suit tells me and a lot of others that they have nothing to hide.

[Sam]

Thank-you for reminding me of this. In fact this very e-mail underscores Danny's factaully challenged status as the watch was a gift given before the Private detectives were hired and Linda put the gift in the Glove Compartment, where Danny found it when he went through the car about ten days after it was gifted. When one is perpetually factually challenged one has a problem keeping the facts straight.

But in response, I do think that some people can beat a Lie Detector Test...but Linda is not one...on the other Hand, I believe Danny could!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy

The fact of when the watch was given really doesn't matter. The point is, as you seemed to have missed it, is that it was given. End of story.

[Cindy]

Thank-you for reminding me of this. In fact this very e-mail underscores Danny's factaully challenged status as the watch was a gift given before the Private detectives were hired and Linda put the gift in the Glove Compartment, where Danny found it when he went through the car about ten days after it was gifted. When one is perpetually factually challenged one has a problem keeping the facts straight.

But in response, I do think that some people can beat a Lie Detector Test...but Linda is not one...on the other Hand, I believe Danny could!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy

The fact of when the watch was given really doesn't matter. The point is, as you seemed to have missed it, is that it was given. End of story.

Exactly, a watch was given to Linda by her Doctor. (a double faced watch- set for two time zones, one Linda's and the other the Doctor's)  And she reportedly lied about it

I have also wondered for over a year now, why after already publishing so many private letters from so many, and in wake of Linda's clear statement that she wants the evidence against her to be known..

Why do both Pickle and Joy both edit this letter from Danny about Linda, and only furnish brief excerpts, and refuse to let it all be known?

[Bob Pickle]

If anyone is hiding something, filing suit is the last action they would take. If you have something to hide you certainly wouldn't want to risk those nasty depos and all of that very telling discovery.  The fact that 3abn chose to pursue a suit tells me and a lot of others that they have nothing to hide.

Don't be so gullible.

3ABN and Danny still haven't given us document 1 of the documents I requested back in November and December. I finally got the last of the initial disclosures in last Friday's mail. Regarding those they have gone to the extreme extreme of marking confidential documents that anyone in the world can freely obtain. And that, in my opinion, is a violation of the confidentiality order that was issued.

If you read through the property tax case, you'll see that this isn't the first time that 3ABN and Danny have refused to turn over documents. I think he's been doing the same in his divorce case too.

No, they are definitely acting as if they have a whole lot to hide. And the evidence that is available at present confirms that.

[Cindy]

If anyone is hiding something, filing suit is the last action they would take. If you have something to hide you certainly wouldn't want to risk those nasty depos and all of that very telling discovery.  The fact that 3abn chose to pursue a suit tells me and a lot of others that they have nothing to hide.

Don't be so gullible.

3ABN and Danny still haven't given us document 1 of the documents I requested back in November and December. I finally got the last of the initial disclosures in last Friday's mail. Regarding those they have gone to the extreme extreme of marking confidential documents that anyone in the world can freely obtain. And that, in my opinion, is a violation of the confidentiality order that was issued.

If you read through the property tax case, you'll see that this isn't the first time that 3ABN and Danny have refused to turn over documents. I think he's been doing the same in his divorce case too.

No, they are definitely acting as if they have a whole lot to hide. And the evidence that is available at present confirms that.

Folks, If Pickle and Joy have received documents marked "confidential" then that info is available to them for the case and they have access to it, and it can be used in the case and trial and the truth be determined. So what's the beef?

The confidentiality order was issued by the Judge.
it only means that what is marked confidential is not public information and can't be revealed to the public, or any outside the case who have no right to it.

So Pickle can't twist anything and misrepresent it here, he is not allowed to violate an individual's privacy rights (the donors for example) , or share or make know 3ABN's trade secrets to their competitors etc.  In other words, Pickle can't report it all as he wants to..

If Pickle thinks 3ABN is violating the Judges order, than instead of first accusing them of doing so and of hiding things and having the apearance of evil, and further whining about it here, he should file a complaint and let the Judge decide..

Then he can factually report the court's decision.

Make sense?

 

[Bob Pickle]

No, you're not making sense. The Confidentiality Order is very explicit about what can be marked confidential, and documents freely accessible by the public don't qualify.

What I referred to contained nothing in the way of trade secret or secret donor information, so the rest of your comments are irrelevant.

[Johann]

The fact of when the watch was given really doesn't matter. The point is, as you seemed to have missed it, is that it was given. End of story.

Not quite. I was involved in that gift too. We chose that watch together among various gifts suggested in the airline brochure as we were on our way to tell the 3ABN board what really happened.  It was to  be a small token of encouragement to Linda in her woes. Any evil mind can twist and interpret that to have an entirely different meaning. Where we came from such a token has no strings attached. Somebody is twisting this to imply that ony two time zones could be displayed. Another one of those evil lies. May the Lord have mercy!

Johann Thorvaldsson

[Cindy]

....Somebody is twisting this to imply that ony two time zones could be displayed. Another one of those evil lies. May the Lord have mercy!

Johann Thorvaldsson

And how many time zones are you claiming could be displayed, Johann?

[Bob Pickle]

Whatever time zones the user sets it for.

[Cindy]

Whatever time zones the user sets it for.

Since Pickle's answering maybe Pickle could maybe explain why Linda would lie about it and hide it, and why it was set to Illinois and Norway time when it was found and photograhed?

And why won't he or Joy publish the whole letter where Danny Shelton explained all this and more to them, in wake of Linda's claims that she wants all revealed and made known?

Ian


Bob just claimed:
"they are definitely acting as if they have a whole lot to hide. And the evidence that is available at present confirms that."

[Bob Pickle]

Ian, you have stated an allegation as if it were a fact. I assume you can prove that Linda lied?

If not, you should have said, "Danny has accused Linda of lying."

I will say that if this watch incident were really evidence of fornication, 3ABN and Danny don't think so, for nothing pertaining to it that I have seen thus far can be found in the initial disclosures. That should say something.

Ian, how would you feel if your husband and others went around accusing you of adultery or some such to the entire world?

And if more than a year after you asked for the evidence against you to be made public, they still hadn't produced anything. Even when requested by a party to the lawsuit they filed. Even when they said that the reason for filing the suit was so that the truth could come out.

[Cindy]

(rolling eyes) Of course a watch isn't evidence of fornication...

apparently the questions I asked were once again, too difficult to answer?


Ian:
And why won't he or Joy publish the whole letter where Danny Shelton explained all this and more to them, in wake of Linda's claims that she wants all revealed and made known?

Bob's answer:
how would you feel if your husband and others went around accusing you of adultery or some such to the entire world? And if more than a year after you asked for the evidence against you to be made public, they still hadn't produced anything. Even when requested by a party to the lawsuit they filed. Even when they said that the reason for filing the suit was so that the truth could come out.

 (where's a wallbash smiley when you need one?)

[Bob Pickle]

My reply only dealt with your accusing Linda of lying. Nothing else. So your cited answer was never intended to be an answer. But I note that you failed to answer my question.

As to printing Danny's emails in their entirety, I'm sure that day will come. Then anyone who wants to will be able to read his rambling venom in its entirety.

[Cindy]

As to printing Danny's emails in their entirety, I'm sure that day will come. Then anyone who wants to will be able to read his rambling venom in its entirety.

In the meantime, despite Linda's public pleas, Bob is protecting Danny??