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[Bob Pickle]

For example no one but Mr Pickle has posted any allegations about Tammy Chance and he has done so repeatedly...and that is what he was being found in fault for here.

Not so. I am not the only one who has posted such, nor was I the first.

[Bob Pickle]

For it appears from PACER documents, that after already being found in contempt once, he again disobeyed a court order and was less than forthcoming and prevented the 2004examination the court ordered from proceeding...

So are statements by 3ABN attorneys credible? Can you prove that they are?

Is this case the adversarial proceeding or the ch. 7 bankruptcy?

[Sister]

For example no one but Mr Pickle has posted any allegations about Tammy Chance and he has done so repeatedly...and that is what he was being found in fault for here.

Not so. I am not the only one who has posted such, nor was I the first.

A number of people who know the Shelton family, or are related to them, know about Tammy's relationship with her cousin and that it resulted in the birth of their child. They also know that Tommy molested a member of his own family in addition to other boys and young men. Linda's daughter has also stated that Danny acted inappropriately toward her. Kenny had an affair during his marriage, divorced his wife and married his much younger lover. Melody had a number of affairs during her first marriage. It appears that there is a problem with sexual boundaries for Danny, his siblings, continuing on to the next generation.

Ian, too many people know too many facts. It is too late to try to do damage control about all the improprieties that have taken place with Danny and his extended family through denying the truth now. Once a fact is known by more than one individual it is no longer a secret. Danny is only deluding himself if he thinks otherwise. Labeling those individuals that become whistle blowers as only disgruntled ex-employees, mentally ill, or liars is no longer working. The deceptive web of lies that has existed in the management level of 3ABN is slowly unraveling and is being documented for all to see. Wake up and smell the aroma, it is not the scent of roses, but the stench of unrepentant sin that is filling the nostrils.

[Cindy]

For example no one but Mr Pickle has posted any allegations about Tammy Chance and he has done so repeatedly...and that is what he was being found in fault for here.

Not so. I am not the only one who has posted such, nor was I the first.

Folks, this is a a childish argument.

If any but Mr Pickle has brought this up here or brought it before him here as he is claiming, then let him provide the link and prove it.

And let him address the actual point for once repeating and bringing up dirt on people which you have no proof of is talebearing (gossip or slander) and is sin! and claiming you aren't the one making any allegations when doing such is less than honest, and being loving.

[Cindy]

For example no one but Mr Pickle has posted any allegations about Tammy Chance and he has done so repeatedly...and that is what he was being found in fault for here.

Not so. I am not the only one who has posted such, nor was I the first.

A number of people who know the Shelton family, or are related to them, know about Tammy's relationship with her cousin and that it resulted in the birth of their child. They also know that Tommy molested a member of his own family in addition to other boys and young men. Linda's daughter has also stated that Danny acted inappropriately toward her. Kenny had an affair during his marriage, divorced his wife and married his much younger lover. Melody had a number of affairs during her first marriage. It appears that there is a problem with sexual boundaries for Danny, his siblings, continuing on to the next generation.

Ian, too many people know too many facts. It is too late to try to do damage control about all the improprieties that have taken place with Danny and his extended family through denying the truth now. Once a fact is known by more than one individual it is no longer a secret. Danny is only deluding himself if he thinks otherwise. Labeling those individuals that become whistle blowers as only disgruntled ex-employees, mentally ill, or liars is no longer working. The deceptive web of lies that has existed in the management level of 3ABN is slowly unraveling and is being documented for all to see. Wake up and smell the aroma, it is not the scent of roses, but the stench of unrepentant sin that is filling the nostrils.

Sister,

Again, there you go with the anonymous people who know and or say things!

People can and do say anything in this world and lots of it is hateful! Hatemongers do not by a majority vote determine what is facts.

You are nothing, if not consistant in your continued attacks of the Shelton family,and particularly Danny.

That axe you keep grinding is obvious to those who really know who you are and the truth about you and how short your actual time at 3abn actually was.

Like Bob, you simply repeat what others say and put all in the worst light and claim you do it out of love and concern. But all you are doing is talebearing also. When you call things facts, you may have a little group fooled,  but sister, I ain't one of them.

It's sin, and you are going to have to answer for that.

[Bob Pickle]

Folks, this is a a childish argument.

If any but Mr Pickle has brought this up here or brought it before him here as he is claiming, then let him provide the link and prove it.

And let him address the actual point for once repeating and bringing up dirt on people which you have no proof of is talebearing (gossip or slander) and is sin! and claiming you aren't the one making any allegations when doing such is less than honest, and being loving.

If only you Danny clones would simply shut up and surrender, this whole tragic saga could be discussed a lot more discretely and embarrass far fewer people.

As a case in point, since you insist on knowing where it was discussed and what was said, here it is:

will-brie said...

    3 ABN has had questionable issues since the very begining. I know I was there when it first started. I saw plenty, and I heard plenty concerning Tommy, and many other family members. One thing that has never been discussed, but a lot of people that work there knew about is the adulterous affair Dannys sister had while she was married with her married cousin. That was two or three years before 3ABN. Then almost as soon as 3ABN was up and running she had another affair with another married man while they both worked at 3ABN. They would meet at her best friends house, motels, and back seats of cars. When she was confronted by the wife of the man it was`nt long until the wife received a letter revoking her membership from the SDA church. Shortly after that the man became very ill (he suffered from chrons disease and stress can make chrons much worse) He had surgery and was lucky to be alive. After a long recovery he called Danny to let him know he was ready to return to 3ABN. Danny told him he thought he quit and no longer had a job. Danny knew better. He should have been fired, but his sister should have been fired to. She was`nt. Shes still there doing probably what she does best. Is there any wonder with people like the Sheltons running 3ABN it is crumbling. Danny and his family seems to forget that GOD sees ALL, and knows ALL.

    8:51 AM

truth4ever said...

    will- brie`s comments were true except for one thing. Dannys sisters 2nd child was a result of the affair with her cousin which all the Sheltons were aware of. They always protect there own no mater what there sins are. Please help save 3ABN by ridding it of these people who think there above GODS commandments!
    12:27 PM

[Cindy]

Folks, this is a a childish argument.

If any but Mr Pickle has brought this up here or brought it before him here as he is claiming, then let him provide the link and prove it.

And let him address the actual point for once repeating and bringing up dirt on people which you have no proof of is talebearing (gossip or slander) and is sin! and claiming you aren't the one making any allegations when doing such is less than honest, and being loving.

If only you Danny clones would simply shut up and surrender, this whole tragic saga could be discussed a lot more discretely and embarrass far fewer people.

As a case in point, since you insist on knowing where it was discussed and what was said, here it is:

will-brie said...

    3 ABN has had questionable issues since the very begining. I know I was there when it first started. I saw plenty, and I heard plenty concerning Tommy, and many other family members. One thing that has never been discussed, but a lot of people that work there knew about is the adulterous affair Dannys sister had while she was married with her married cousin. That was two or three years before 3ABN. Then almost as soon as 3ABN was up and running she had another affair with another married man while they both worked at 3ABN. They would meet at her best friends house, motels, and back seats of cars. When she was confronted by the wife of the man it was`nt long until the wife received a letter revoking her membership from the SDA church. Shortly after that the man became very ill (he suffered from chrons disease and stress can make chrons much worse) He had surgery and was lucky to be alive. After a long recovery he called Danny to let him know he was ready to return to 3ABN. Danny told him he thought he quit and no longer had a job. Danny knew better. He should have been fired, but his sister should have been fired to. She was`nt. Shes still there doing probably what she does best. Is there any wonder with people like the Sheltons running 3ABN it is crumbling. Danny and his family seems to forget that GOD sees ALL, and knows ALL.

    8:51 AM

truth4ever said...

    will- brie`s comments were true except for one thing. Dannys sisters 2nd child was a result of the affair with her cousin which all the Sheltons were aware of. They always protect there own no mater what there sins are. Please help save 3ABN by ridding it of these people who think there above GODS commandments!
    12:27 PM

Bob knows that's not from here! No one brought it up here but him, repeatedly.  Edited by Moderator for inapropriate comments. He is the one who brought up the allegations here.

AND? Is this his source?!? Give me a break!  Edited by Moderator for inappropriate commnts.

People wake up! and stop drinking the koolaid! It's poison!

I would not be surprised at all to find it's sister and one of the other critics here in another forum under other ids, considering it sounds to me like just what sister just posted here...

[Bob Pickle]

Now Ian, see if you can get a sworn statement from Danny that he never heard of these allegations before. Not that that would mean much, since he has already told falsehoods in sworn statements.

But it would still mean something. If Danny could but state that he never heard of these allegations and that is why he never fired Tammy over the many years over these allegations, then it might not look as strange when compared to how he got Linda fired in just months for talking too long on the telephone to a doctor who lived thousands of miles away.

[Bob Pickle]

Bob knows that's not from here!

So? I never said it was.

AND? Is this his source?!?

No. It is not my source.

[Cindy]

For it appears from PACER documents, that after already being found in contempt once, he again disobeyed a court order and was less than forthcoming and prevented the 2004examination the court ordered from proceeding...

So are statements by 3ABN attorneys credible? Can you prove that they are?

Is this case the adversarial proceeding or the ch. 7 bankruptcy?

Hint: 

Go here for answer please:
http://www.adventtalk.com/forums/index.php?topic=184.msg4778#msg4778

[Cindy]

Pickle said:

If only you Danny clones would simply shut up and surrender, this whole tragic saga could be discussed a lot more discretely and embarrass far fewer people.

As if we're bringing it up or the reason that he is...? "the devil made me do it?
That don't wash. I am only replying to his talebearing.

And btw, I am not a Danny clone and don't appreciate being called that or told to shut up and surrender... nor would anyone else I am sure...

Bob knows that's not from here!

So? I never said it was.

But he does know that is what I was talking about and what the subject was...
I said:"If any but Mr Pickle has brought this up here or brought it before him here as he is claiming, then let him provide the link and prove it."

AND? Is this his source?!?

No. It is not my source.

Really?
Then kindly pm me your source's contact information so I may investigate and question this for myself.

[Bob Pickle]

Reporters don't do that to their sources.

Call up Tammy yourself, or her husband, or Tommy, or Ronnie, or Kennie, or Emma Lou, or Teresa, or Carol, and ask away.

[Snoopy]

Well thank you for the respect Ian - I really appreciate it!!  And I respectfully disagree with you on a couple of things!!

First, 3ABN's business IS anyone else's business if the "anyone else" is a donor!!

And second, I really do feel like anyman has a personal bone to pick with Linda...can't quite put my finger on it but it is definitely personal.  You can certainly disagree with me - but that is my opinion!!

That's right you don't know. you weren't privy to all the communications and meetings with Linda. You weren't in the 3abn board meetings, you weren't in on the Church discipline meetings...  They handled their business, and frankly it really isn't anyone elses business.

And respectfully snoopy, I have to disagree with you, it doesn't sound like Linda is the focus of Mr anyman's wrath to me.  Pickle, Joy and Co. brought her up... It sounds to me like Mr. anyman is "replying" and disagreeing with and has a bone to pick with what is being falsely reported here by others (Pickle, Joy and Co.) who also weren't there and also don't know...

[Snoopy]

Aaww, Ian - thanks so much for the encouragement...

However, it is not other independent ministries I have an interest in or a concern with.  And as for the transparency of the Pickle-Joy defense fund, how would you know about that?  Have you contributed?  If not, I guess it makes that none of YOUR business!!

I would also encourage you to check with other independant ministries and ask them if you can see their books and also report their answers back here...

Mr Joy, who as we know has a proven, not 'alleged" history of financial impropriaties (embezzlement) has so far refused to open his books up too...

I would encourage you to ask him why he doesn't lead by example and be "open and transparent" with his donors, (re Pickle- Joy defense fund) and do so.

For it appears from PACER documents, that after already being found in contempt once, he again disobeyed a court order and was less than forthcoming and prevented the 2004examination the court ordered from proceeding...

[Snoopy]

Welll, there you go...  Just get rebaptized and all is well.  Did it ever dawn on you that Melody's actions might have caused serious harm and pain to others besides Mr. Pickle??

Whatever the deal with Melody's baby, She has hurt nor caused no harm to any, esp Mr Pickle, and I do NOT think she needs to be crucified nor sacrificed because of it.  It is public knowledge she was rebaptised along with her husband at that time.  The bottom line here is does the blood of Christ cover any sin she may or may not have committed?

because if it does, no one would dare accuse her with her past, or any other after that in regards to how they dealt with that, except the accuser of the brethren.

And people if the blood of Christ is lacking here and does not cover Melody's past, or that of any other who has repented and given themselves to the Lord, then we are all in serious trouble!

Folks, the end does not justify the means, and what is being said and done here is wrong, just as so much before this has been.


Who will Pickle assassinate and attack next?

It never seems to end with him... 

Nor does your tolerance and condoning by turning your eyes away or by your silence, or lack of action, and even unbelievably some's verbal/written defense of such.

for shame on you all.