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[Bob Pickle]

So what can be done? At present the lawsuit will drag on for at least another year, not counting appeals, unless the other side starts to give. And the IRS's plans, that's a wild card.

[bonnie]

I am not quite sure where you got the blasphemy part from as here is my original post...

Right here, seems advent talk has quite a laundry list and blasphemy is one you included. And at the time it was posted, there was only a strong desire to see any and all statements regarding 3ABn come to an end.
The opening sentnece pretty well defines those you are referring to. Hopefully for one that has taken such a strong stand against accusations and now appears to have concern as to how this could impact the denomination,accusations such as this will be at a minimum...Anger, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness.....many here have been clearly affected and are in the grasp of evil and need to turn to God and pray to be released from its grip





What you dont seem to realize is that none of this brings glory to God, the way everyone has acted is like what you see in a daytime soap opera. Evil has toppled what once was a Christian show, it is obvious that pride and arrogance has crept in and destroyed what once spread Gods truth and snuffed out what was a shinning light. Anger, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness, has now replaced what is being spread, with much suffering all around, many here have been clearly affected and are in the grasp of evil and need to turn to God and pray to be released from its grip. For He is a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and mercy, ready to listen to your prayer to cleanse and keep you from this evil, I can say this from experience.

[reddogs]

I am not quite sure where you got the blasphemy part from as here is my original post...

Right here, seems advent talk has quite a laundry list and blasphemy is one you included. And at the time it was posted, there was only a strong desire to see any and all statements regarding 3ABn come to an end.
The opening sentnece pretty well defines those you are referring to. Hopefully for one that has taken such a strong stand against accusations and now appears to have concern as to how this could impact the denomination,accusations such as this will be at a minimum...Anger, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness





What you dont seem to realize is that none of this brings glory to God, the way everyone has acted is like what you see in a daytime soap opera. Evil has toppled what once was a Christian show, it is obvious that pride and arrogance has crept in and destroyed what once spread Gods truth and snuffed out what was a shinning light. Anger, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness, has now replaced what is being spread, with much suffering all around, many here have been clearly affected and are in the grasp of evil and need to turn to God and pray to be released from its grip. For He is a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and mercy, ready to listen to your prayer to cleanse and keep you from this evil, I can say this from experience.

I dont remember what was being said at that point but it comes from Mark 7, and I think my point was on the terrible things being spread, some just plainly unsubstantuated personal attacks, and not to allow its evil to be taken in to affect you and do you harm or the results of it coming out, as I have seen the results in many sites...

18And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;

 19Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

 20And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

 21For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

 22Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:

 23All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

The 3ABN issue is not just on this website, I mod on other forums and this is brought into there with many of the same lack of facts or emotions, or measured details depending on who is posting.......

[reddogs]

So what can be done? At present the lawsuit will drag on for at least another year, not counting appeals, unless the other side starts to give. And the IRS's plans, that's a wild card.

If I was working the issue, I would ask that all the principals step aside until the issue was resolved....

[scratsmom]

So what can be done? At present the lawsuit will drag on for at least another year, not counting appeals, unless the other side starts to give. And the IRS's plans, that's a wild card.

If I was working the issue, I would ask that all the principals step aside until the issue was resolved....

And after that, when they finished accusing you of all kinds of infractions and refused to talk to you anymore, and after they filed suit against you, then what?

[Bob Pickle]

If I was working the issue, I would ask that all the principals step aside until the issue was resolved....

Actually, after the infamous tribute to Tommy on 12/31/06, a retired church official wrote Walt Thompson and said he was outraged. He explicitly stated that that is what should have happened until there had been a thorough investigation.

Your suggestion is reasonable and customary, but the powers that be at 3ABN don't operate that way.

[Artiste]

I dont remember what was being said at that point but it comes from Mark 7, and I think my point was on the terrible things being spread, some just plainly unsubstantuated personal attacks, and not to allow its evil to be taken in to affect you and do you harm or the results of it coming out, as I have seen the results in many sites...

Reddogs, like several before you, the unsubstantiated accusations that you make are piling up...

People here have spent their time and energy explaining repeatedly about facts and processes.  Please don't linger with the others on the "dark side".  

[Artiste]

The 3ABN issue is not just on this website, I mod on other forums and this is brought into there with many of the same lack of facts   or emotions, or measured details depending on who is posting.......

So, reddogs, after all the evidence presented, you still accuse us here on Advent Talk of "lack of facts".

This makes me sad.

And I already knew you were a mod on Daryl's other forum.

 

[bonnie]

The 3ABN issue is not just on this website, I mod on other forums and this is brought into there with many of the same lack of facts   or emotions, or measured details depending on who is posting.......

So, reddogs, after all the evidence presented, you still accuse us here on Advent Talk of "lack of facts".

This makes me sad.

And I already knew you were a mod on Daryl's other forum.

 

I was sure I read somewhere in this discussion that reddogs was unfamiliar with any facts.

[reddogs]

The 3ABN issue is not just on this website, I mod on other forums and this is brought into there with many of the same lack of facts   or emotions, or measured details depending on who is posting.......

So, reddogs, after all the evidence presented, you still accuse us here on Advent Talk of "lack of facts".

This makes me sad.

And I already knew you were a mod on Daryl's other forum.

 

I was sure I read somewhere in this discussion that reddogs was unfamiliar with any facts.

I dont think that taking shots like that at a brother is called for....

[reddogs]

The 3ABN issue is not just on this website, I mod on other forums and this is brought into there with many of the same lack of facts   or emotions, or measured details depending on who is posting.......

So, reddogs, after all the evidence presented, you still accuse us here on Advent Talk of "lack of facts".

This makes me sad.

And I already knew you were a mod on Daryl's other forum.

 

I am a mod on other forums not just Daryl's so I am not following any party line or side, and even on those sites the 3ABN issue is mostly a mix of hearsay and some facts but in bits and pieces and as you can see here, Bob is the only one who has brought up the facts in a calm and detailed manner...

[Daryl Fawcett]

Just a notice to let everybody know here that we do have the "Report to Moderator" feature here in which reported posts will be worked by the leadership/moderation team of Advent Talk.

[reddogs]

Just a notice to let everybody know here that we do have the "Report to Moderator" feature here in which reported posts will be worked by the leadership/moderation team of Advent Talk.

Daryl,

You know how I hate to hit that button, somehow I cant believe it needs to come to that anytime in a discussion of the issues amoung Christians especially Adventist brothers and sisters.....

Red

[Daryl Fawcett]

I leave it up to each person to decide whether or not to use the "Report to Moderator" feature.

[bonnie]

 

I was sure I read somewhere in this discussion that reddogs was unfamiliar with any facts.

I dont think that taking shots like that at a brother is called for....
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This gets more strange right along. I didn't take any shot at you. Repeating what I believe you have already stated is not taking a shot.

If I were to say the following, that may just be considered a shot. It does appear there were several shots here at many "brothers and sisters'.


What you dont seem to realize is that none of this brings glory to God, the way everyone has acted is like what you see in a daytime soap opera. Evil has toppled what once was a Christian show, it is obvious that pride and arrogance has crept in and destroyed what once spread Gods truth and snuffed out what was a shinning light. Anger, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness, has now replaced what is being spread, with much suffering all around, many here have been clearly affected and are in the grasp of evil and need to turn to God and pray to be released from its grip. For He is a gracious God, and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and mercy, ready to listen to your prayer to cleanse and keep you from this evil, I can say this from experience.