Bob, my point is that many of the alligations were never formally proven. As to the IRS, many of the charges that were made were criminal in nautre. Without criminal prosecution and conviction, they were not formally proven. Criminal conduct by Danny Shelton was often implied. Without criminal prosecution and conviction, they were not formally proven. Yes, I understand that when they were implied, someone might say that they were never alleged. Mere playing with words in my thinking.
I understand how somw people think. I watched the ASI TV program yesterday (when I watched it) where the five talked about unity on the issue of female ordination. My wife listened in the background while she did other stuff and occasionally asked me to explain something. Later she said to me: I just do not understand how President Wilson, as conservative as he is, could appear on a program with Danny Shelton.
Others have asked the same question. In my thinking, the answer to that question is as I stated to Ariste.
I have been formally trained in conflict resolution by an agency of the Federal government. NOTE: I did not have that training in the early days when I was working with Linda. In order to be effective, one must understand the thinking and position of the opposing party. One does not have to agree with it. One does not have to support it. But, one needs to understand it. My comment to Ariste is a very simple statement as to the thinking of denominational leaders. It is not a complex, fully developed statement of their thinking.
I also think that those who have attacked Daqnny Shelton and 3-ABN have often presented their position in a manner that has served to defeat their cause and sometimes reflected badly on their creditibility. A recent example of this, which does not related to Danny and 3-ABN is the following:
In another part of this forum there is a thread headline which reads: "Now CUC allows homosexual pastors!*" Stated that way the headline is inflamatory. It attracts attention. and it, in my thinking is dishonest. Yes, I know that it contains a "*" which modifies the headline and makes it more honest. I am well aware that one might argue that the rationale behind the vote of the CUC on female ordination coud logically lead to the ordination of practicing homosexuals., although one might debate that point. But, the reality is that at this point CUC has not done anything to allow such. Those who have brought the 4-legged dog into this discusion, in my opinion have clearly lost credibility and diminished their intellectual respectability. Denominational leadership is not going to give much credence to people who make such claims. In my opinion, if you do not think that is accurate, you do not understand the dynamics that are going on.