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Remnant continues to hide the truth
« on: April 09, 2008, 09:33:14 AM »
I was informed again today that Remnant will not provide us with one single piece of paper unless we file a motion to compel.

Kind of ridiculous, isn't it? I don't understand why any supporting ministry of the Seventh-day Adventist Church would behave that way. A lawsuit accuses us of stating certain things about the royalties Remnant paid Danny, and then Remnant refuses to provide any documentation regarding that. Why in the world would they do such a thing?

It's a disgrace for any ministry to pull these kind of pranks.
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Re: Remnant continues to hide the truth
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2008, 11:14:31 AM »
Don''t you think it is actually quite telling?  If they had nothing to hide, why not rush to comply and set the record straight?  I think the whole mess is a disgrace!  Is it safe to assume you will be filing the motion to compel?
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Re: Remnant continues to hide the truth
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2008, 01:11:36 PM »
Bob,

Did they give a reason why they wouldn't provide?
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Re: Remnant continues to hide the truth
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2008, 03:04:05 PM »
Quote from: Snoopy on April 09, 2008, 11:14:31 AM
Don''t you think it is actually quite telling?  If they had nothing to hide, why not rush to comply and set the record straight?  I think the whole mess is a disgrace!  Is it safe to assume you will be filing the motion to compel?

I'd say that's safe.
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Re: Remnant continues to hide the truth
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2008, 03:12:17 PM »
Quote from: Daryl Fawcett on April 09, 2008, 01:11:36 PM
Bob,

Did they give a reason why they wouldn't provide?

Yes. Overbroad. Burdensome. Financial information of a proprietary nature.

So I talked to the attorney today and told him that none of those reasons prevent him from producing documents pertaining to the royalty payments Remnant paid Danny. But he doesn't care. He said I have to file a motion to compel.

Dwight Hall told me that they wouldn't make it hard for us to get the information we need, so I have a question for Dwight Hall: Did you lie to me?

And this is all about the royalties paid on a book about the 10 Commandments.
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Re: Remnant continues to hide the truth
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2008, 08:17:51 PM »

Bob Pickle: Dwight Hall: Did you lie to me?

Dwight Hall: No, I hired a lawyer to do it for me...I can't afford to expose the truth...did you see what we made last year?


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Re: Remnant continues to hide the truth
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2008, 10:56:36 AM »
As we work on a motion to compel, I wonder if Dwight Hall realizes the significance of going this route. Laying out the documented evidence in court documents is not the best way to keep everything hush hush. It would draw much less attention to the facts if he just let us have what we need.
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Re: Remnant continues to hide the truth
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2008, 04:05:48 PM »
Quote from: Bob Pickle on April 11, 2008, 10:56:36 AM
As we work on a motion to compel, I wonder if Dwight Hall realizes the significance of going this route. Laying out the documented evidence in court documents is not the best way to keep everything hush hush. It would draw much less attention to the facts if he just let us have what we need.

Dwight has a "FULLY VESTED INTEREST"..."where a man's heart is...". Dwight has chosen his course and you recall that old adage??? Bird's of a feather..."?

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Re: Remnant continues to hide the truth
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2008, 10:35:43 PM »
Quote from: Gailon Arthur Joy on April 10, 2008, 08:17:51 PM

Bob Pickle: Dwight Hall: Did you lie to me?

Dwight Hall: No, I hired a lawyer to do it for me...I can't afford to expose the truth...did you see what we made last year?


Gailon Arthur Joy
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Re: Remnant continues to hide the truth
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2008, 07:51:11 PM »
It is time to move forward and get Remnant to produce the evidence. Take the checking accounts information, add the data from the Remnant Publications Documents and throw in a mix of the information that we must compel from the auditors, then the financial experts will be very busy!!!

Then the lawyers have to decide who to sue, for what and when.

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Re: Remnant continues to hide the truth
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2008, 08:14:59 PM »
Quote from: Gailon Arthur Joy on April 25, 2008, 07:51:11 PM
It is time to move forward and get Remnant to produce the evidence. Take the checking accounts information, add the data from the Remnant Publications Documents and throw in a mix of the information that we must compel from the auditors, then the financial experts will be very busy!!!

Then the lawyers have to decide who to sue, for what and when.

Gailon Arthur Joy

Is that the 3ABN lawyers?

Who would be in their line of sight to sue?
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Re: Remnant continues to hide the truth
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2008, 01:57:47 PM »
Quote from: Artiste on April 25, 2008, 08:14:59 PM
Quote from: Gailon Arthur Joy on April 25, 2008, 07:51:11 PM
It is time to move forward and get Remnant to produce the evidence. Take the checking accounts information, add the data from the Remnant Publications Documents and throw in a mix of the information that we must compel from the auditors, then the financial experts will be very busy!!!

Then the lawyers have to decide who to sue, for what and when.

Gailon Arthur Joy

Is that the 3ABN lawyers?

Who would be in their line of sight to sue?

The 3ABN Lawyers will be plenty busy, but they are not the subject of this statement. I think I have made it clear for some time that there are a variety of claims that have not been resolved. Gilley and the present board have made it abundantly clear they will not address them and ASI has opted out...therefore the Civil Courts are the alternative forum.

Since they find the civil arena such a terriffic place to take up their cases these days, it seems only fitting to accomodate these miscreants of due process and justice...give em what they want!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy
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Re: Remnant continues to hide the truth
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2008, 02:04:10 PM »
Quote from: Gailon Arthur Joy on April 26, 2008, 01:57:47 PM
Quote from: Artiste on April 25, 2008, 08:14:59 PM
Quote from: Gailon Arthur Joy on April 25, 2008, 07:51:11 PM
It is time to move forward and get Remnant to produce the evidence. Take the checking accounts information, add the data from the Remnant Publications Documents and throw in a mix of the information that we must compel from the auditors, then the financial experts will be very busy!!!

Then the lawyers have to decide who to sue, for what and when.

Gailon Arthur Joy

Is that the 3ABN lawyers?

Who would be in their line of sight to sue?

The 3ABN Lawyers will be plenty busy, but they are not the subject of this statement. I think I have made it clear for some time that there are a variety of claims that have not been resolved. Gilley and the present board have made it abundantly clear they will not address them and ASI has opted out...therefore the Civil Courts are the alternative forum.

Since they find the civil arena such a terriffic place to take up their cases these days, it seems only fitting to accomodate these miscreants of due process and justice...give em what they want!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy

Whatever it takes!
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Re: Remnant continues to hide the truth
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2008, 02:40:28 PM »
You know the old saying, be careful what you ask for as you just may get it!!!

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Re: Remnant continues to hide the truth
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2008, 05:10:03 PM »
Quote from: Gailon Arthur Joy on April 26, 2008, 02:40:28 PM
You know the old saying, be careful what you ask for as you just may get it!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy

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