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[Bob Pickle]

In a Danish newspaper was a picture from the funeral, and someone asked me what Danny Shelton was doing there, because he was easily recognized. . . so some of these questions have become quite international.

I got a viral email about it last week.

[Artiste]

In a Danish newspaper was a picture from the funeral, and someone asked me what Danny Shelton was doing there, because he was easily recognized. . . so some of these questions have become quite international.

Interesting, Johann!

[princessdi]

Amen!!   

What a phenomenal woman she is!!

[horsethief]

Danny and Yvonne might be planning on a wedding during that cruise that 3abn is doing in June. We all know how Danny likes to be the center of attention in anything he's involved with.

[Johann]

In my few interactions with Yvonne I have found her to be a most charming, amiable and engaging woman. Were she a man of the late 18th century we might have equated her on many levels with Benjamin Franklin.

I agree to this from reading her book and then meeting her at her stand at the 2005 GC session - seven years ago.

Suddenly I saw where I made a serious mistake. There are so many similarities between Ullanda and Yvonne. Both jingle singers, both had a gold record, both associated with Wintley Phipps, both been on 3ABN, both associated with healing or medicine. It was Ullanda's book I read, it was her I saw at GC in 2005, so I have never seen Yvonne. I apologize!

    Ullanda Innocent-Palmer

    Ullanda began her solo career at age 13 at the Jones Temple Church of God in Christ, Detroit, Michigan, which was founded by her grandfather, Bishop Alexander Jones. In 1975, Ullanda relocated to New York and sang with Ashford and Simpson, receiving a gold record for their hit song, “Solid As A Rock.” She also collaborated on other gold hits including “Sesame Street,” and Bill Whithers’ hit song, “Just the Two of Us.”

    TV host, Joan Rivers, dubbed her, “Queen of Jingles,” for her thousands of commercials, including Coca Cola (“I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing”), and American Airlines (“Something Special in the Air”).

    Her TV appearances included, The David Letterman Show, The Joan Rivers Show, Live with Regis and Kathy Lee, Saturday Night Live, and the Martin Luther King Special.

    She has recorded with Tina Turner, Luther Vandross, Ray Charles, Quincy Jones, Patti La Belle, Diana Ross, Lionel Richie, Michael Jackson, Bill Cosby, Lucille Ball, Candice Bergen, Bette Midler, Englebert Humperdinck, James Taylor, Michael Bolton, Eddie Murphy, and Christian artists including Tremaine Hawkins, Wintley Phipps, Clifton Davis.

    In 1985 Ullanda had a life-changing experience and was baptized as a member of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church. A new song emerged in her heart. She hosted her own TV program aired on 3ABN for five years entitled, “It’s All About Love,” and has recorded four CDs of sacred music.

    Her ministry has taken her to Malaysia, Indonesia, Brazil, France, Italy, Great Britain, India, Tanzania, Zambia, South Africa, the Philippines, Holland, Japan, Hong Kong, Thailand, Singapore, Australia, Guatemala, Panama, Cuba, and the Caribbean. She has also co-authored two books -- All That Glitters, and her autobiography, Something Special.

    In 2002, she wedded cardiologist H. Schubert Palmer, M.D., author of the book God Must Be Crazy, and together Schubert and Ullanda have teamed up to form Heart & Soul Ministries, dedicated to sharing the good news of God’s amazing love.
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[horsethief]

Then congratulate Danny, and stop criticizing! It seems if they are together he has found a great woman!

A great woman? Someone who works closely with a team of people who knowingly and actively sought to suppress accusations of child molestation has some serious ethical shortcomings...

[tinka]

Yes I would say so too, I probably was the first on here to have something to say "in the manner of her dress" that displayed much. although some don't agree. but it was all displayed out and uncalled for, not even modest.

 But then one can only imagine "Linda looking like that ..in that dress"... I don't even think so! Shows a lot what DS looks at, likes and etc.etc.  At least this common sense was displayed by Linda with her connect to the Lord in modesty.

 I hate it when the music used by blues jazz, and secular sounds written for lovers in the music world and then transferred to the change of words  like sex tones go up to the Lord that ..that very music is sung in sex tones to lovers . It is so disgusting to me when a singer does this sex music to God.   It is no different then Rock and roll music now being "Christian Rock". ....and some Adventist see no wrong in this??   A true worshipper musician can sing a melody with melodious sounds that is catching to the heart of God and angels chime in and believe me ..It ain't sex tones. They sing humble, modest and have ability to know common sense what would be pleasing to the Lord as there praises are to Him and not always dwelling on "theirself songs". Country music know how to do those. Not all bad but not all for worship at church either.

[horsethief]

Dress, style of music, whatever. That may be important to some, but the hard, cold reality is that the people who claim to be "mending broken people" and presenting "the unduluted three angels message" knew that Tommy Shelton had proclivities toward young boys. They knew that child molestation is a crime. They heard the reports and made concerted efforts to make sure that none of the information reached authorities and that the accusers reports were unbelievable and that their names  and characters were tarnished.

ANY person who knows about this yet continues to work for or financially support 3ABN shares in their guilt.

I wish it could be said "forgive them for they know not what they do," but that just wouldn't apply.

God help them.

[Artiste]

ANY person who knows about this yet continues to work for or financially support 3ABN shares in their guilt.

Good thought.

[Bob Pickle]

That may be important to some, but the hard, cold reality is that the people who claim to be "mending broken people" and presenting "the unduluted three angels message" knew that Tommy Shelton had proclivities toward young boys.

According to one former worker, Danny said, "Don't let Tommy go out to lunch with that boy." I think that conversation occurred in the late 80's or early 90's. Must have been by 1991, inclusive.

[horsethief]

  UNDILUTED, not "unduluted"...    at myself.

[princessdi]

Now, I have never heard her sing, but if reports of her professional history are correct she should have quite a nice voice, but I can't make any judgement on that. 

Tinka, I remember what you said about a dress that was down to the floor and nearly choking her at the neck, and I thanked God that you were lead to serve Him because Lord knows where you would be now seeing sex where there is none.  However, at the time I forgot about the sterotypes put upon black women(and men) about a preoccupation with sex.  Your comments come out of that component of racism.  There is no way in the world you should be analyzing even the patterns in the material of her dress to find signs of sexual innuendos.  That is just plain, straight racism, and if you don't consider yourself a racist please divest yourself of that negative behavior.  AND if you didn't realize that is where it came from, trust me it is.  I like you, Tinka, and believe you are so sincere in you devotion to God and his message to man, but you are going to have to let this preoccupation with black women and thier preceived overt sexuality go. 

Yes I would say so too, I probably was the first on here to have something to say "in the manner of her dress" that displayed much. although some don't agree. but it was all displayed out and uncalled for, not even modest.

 But then one can only imagine "Linda looking like that ..in that dress"... I don't even think so! Shows a lot what DS looks at, likes and etc.etc.  At least this common sense was displayed by Linda with her connect to the Lord in modesty.

 I hate it when the music used by blues jazz, and secular sounds written for lovers in the music world and then transferred to the change of words  like sex tones go up to the Lord that ..that very music is sung in sex tones to lovers . It is so disgusting to me when a singer does this sex music to God.   It is no different then Rock and roll music now being "Christian Rock". ....and some Adventist see no wrong in this??   A true worshipper musician can sing a melody with melodious sounds that is catching to the heart of God and angels chime in and believe me ..It ain't sex tones. They sing humble, modest and have ability to know common sense what would be pleasing to the Lord as there praises are to Him and not always dwelling on "theirself songs". Country music know how to do those. Not all bad but not all for worship at church either.

[tinka]

Di,

It is beyond my wildest thoughts how someone can come back and add all that garbage of racism to my comments.  First of all that dress on a white or black woman would display the same thing. I never in my life ever heard of how one person can come up with so much straddling or justifications and turn an eye to display of body parts because of the color of their skin.

You can cover a body very modest with lines that are not so obvious or you can apply covering that accents what "one" (black or white)"likes" to display. It is absolutely a "glitch" when woman do not know the difference on what they display. To others that have the common sense (that has nothing to do with racism) will dress with "modesty".  It is alarming and very obvious that a SS teacher cannot discern this kind of difference???

Since your only racism thoughts that come out at every opportunity you can justify for it I suggest you look at the " black sisters that sing on 3 abn." Not sure I remember their name but it sounds like (Cordell)?? not sure that is the name. but I can tell you one thing they are taught, disciplined and modest and sing beautifully in right worship to God and do not what so ever display their bodies. I mention this because you make such a difference in race in every thought....I don't!!  I was embarrassed for Yvonne as she displayed all with clinging tightness to her "human body the same as my human body" and nothing was thought of on which color it was displayed on. I just can't understand this type of comeback not only on this subject but many others justifications that I have followed from the beginning. Very very liberal (California style) and away from any SP. I can tell exactly what your knowledge of SP is. and if you do know it is obvious you are very much against it.   The same as finding justification for jewelry, wedding rings, star wars, a little wine, and certain types of game playing, chess etc, cards, and what ever music or jumping up and down for worship and what it creates. We may be the same age but i was raised to at least know the difference and never to dwell on thoughts of "human difference" but that God loved all equal. I cannot help wonder just how many children your family or parents did raise to these characteristics of embedding these hate things to come out everywhere it can be pounced upon.  but I also watched all your comments to others on here when they have explained and explained their positions and you come back with something clear different  in another direction or agree with what ever floats. Yes I am outspoken and get off into other directions too and would like to comment more especially with the ones that straddle. and one on here that I especially watch and wonder in amazement of straddling.  There whole life seems to be dedicated to straddling. Don't know how they live with it but seems they weigh everything into facts they wholly believe in trying to condone each side. Its either a right side or wrong. But it will cause them in the end to not know which way is right as they make justifications for both sides. Point blank.. the use of pew money, molestations, adultery, and display against the SP councils shown worldwide on tv are dead wrong! If your an Adventist that is..!!!! The Dress was made to accent body curves. So would you call it a sexuallty Dress?? Yes, the dress did not know what body it would be on. It was just chosen by the one to display what they wanted displayed. I am a seamstress and I know how to accent great modesty into very much"class" that shows quality and acceptability to the honor of God and brings out the inner beauty of what each person has.

[tinka]

God excepts new baby Christians in whatever manner of dress they are in as their hearts catch the first glimpse   But years and years of study and being named an Adventist for a lifetime and "still don't know the difference in modesty tones" Hmmmm. a lifetime of ones own choosing of self display and actions and no difference? Seems impossible to me that Holy Spirits has guided.

[princessdi]

Yes, Tinka, I know you are a seamstress, but a seatress with a certain religiously based set of preferences.  Many designer lines have seamstress' but their preferences are to the polar opposite of yours.  Do you know that I don't believe you do any of this purposely?  If I thought all white folks were that racist, I would not be here chatting, discussing and having a good time at this site.  However, a great part of who we are is our environment, what we were taught by are parents, what kind of community we live(d) in and the core values of each.  That is why you have such a reaction to the information I shared.  I share it so that you will be more sensitive to it going forward.  I truly understand what you are syaing about modesty and I know that if you had your way, we would all resemble "Little House on the Praire".  While not biblical, it is your preference and maybe even your conviction.  I can't argue against that.   You have to be true to what you belief is right.  That is part of what I admire about you.  That in mind, I am going to ignore the personal remarke made in the last post.  One day you will learn that somethings we are convicted of as individuals for reasons only God knows.  It doesn't mean that everyone who does other than that personal conviction is being disobedient, even though those so convicted would be.  In maturing spiritually, you will also realize that it is not necessary for your to agree or even like the path on which the Holy Spirit is guiding me or anyone else.  I don't expect our spiritual walk to look the same, as we are indivudals, and God deals with us on that basis.  While there is life, there is hope, and I believe that you are sincere. God will bless your faithfulness and cause you to grow in wisdom and knowledge.