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[Snoopy]

ok? Not sure that's true... but in any case if you choose to apply double standards and be partial in judgment I can't stop you. Nor will the Lord unless you ask him.

I'm done posting in this thread.
Laters...

Yup - heard that before!!  You'll be back!

And here's a thought...  I'll worry about my relationship with my Lord, and you worry about yours!!  But out of respect for Him, I like to capitalize any reference to Him...

[DARVO]

Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender…..really sad.


“Did anyone catch the fact that when Alex gets exposed he always claims he is having great physical problems..he seems to think this gives him an out..for telling his lies. You all do know about Alex's claims of having a brain tumor and all the other claims he has made to his family in attempts to get their sympathy. Problem is.....He didn't have a brain tumor!! Another lie!”

That has been Tommy Shelton’s modus operandi over the past few decades!  Could be common behavior of abused people…dunno.

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“I'm done posting in this thread.

Laters...”

You do exactly what Alex is doing – the hit and run.  Guess if you do it and he does it then it makes a ‘right’.

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NoSir – seems to me that you have an intimate relationship with Tommy Shelton.   (I’m presuming of course when I read you refer to him as TR (Tommy Ray)).  Is he remorseful for what he’s done?  Not just for abusing Dennis, but is he remorseful for abusing any or all of his victims?  Is he remorseful for hurting his Congregation in DL?

[JustWondering]

Sources have clarified the case numbers in the following manner:

• Case 786 contains five charges or counts pertaining to DT.
• Case 787 contains four charges or counts pertaining to AW.
• Case 1987 contains four charges or counts pertaining to DT.
• Case 1988 contains two charges or counts pertaining to AW.

The charges in the latter two cases are re-indictments of counts that the prosecutor agreed in the July 2010 plea agreement not to prosecute.

So if Tommy pled guilty yesterday to four felony charges, then it would appear that that guilty plea was probably exchanged for dropping AW's case.

AW's case was different than DT's case in that there was a corroborating witness in DT's case, and there wasn't in AW's case. If AW and DT could have been tried together, that could have helped. But as it was, it was only AW's word against Tommy's.

Bob,
Do you know what class the four felony charges are and the type of the charges?  I believe the sentence range would depend on the class.

[Bob Pickle]

Bob,
why not admit that either you and or your sources continue to be liars.

I haven't seen any evidence that my sources yesterday lied. "Lie" implies an intentional misstatement of fact.

On the other hand, Danny had a habit of calling any inaccuracy a lie, even though the gist of the allegation was true. Please don't pick up his bad habits.

The courts never bought your lies about DS and 3ABN even though you wasted years of your lives trying to prove the unprovable.

Please be specific: What lie did I tell that the courts never believed? The courts agreed with us more than once.

And what specifically are you saying was unprovable? Certainly not Danny getting kickbacks from Remnant for sales of his PPPA booklets to 3ABN, since that is already a proven fact. Even Simpson admitted in court filings that those payments were made.

You say TS pleaded guilty and leave out the Alfred plea is used for innocent people that want to take a plea for all kinds of different reasons, but can stand up in court and say they are not guilty, plea or no plea.

Alford guilty pleas are also used by guilty people, not just innocent people. And the reason why I didn't say it was an Alford guilty plea is because I wasn't told that yesterday, because my source, apparently, didn't know that.

You also left out that Alex's case is now dropped.

I wasn't told that either. Of course, since there were no corroborating witnesses, I understood already that Alex's charges might be dropped in the plea deal, but I wasn't told yesterday whether they actually were. So I didn't report a detail I wasn't told about.

Perhaps you should try doing the same.

Please be man enough to say that you hate TS, DS and 3ABN so much that you jumped the gun wanting to appear to be soooo in the know, that you took a risk and wrote what you wanted to happen about TS's case hoping it would be true?

I posted what I was asked to post, and for that reason. And I made clear what I was able to confirm, thereby making clear what I was not able to confirm.

Does it surpise any of you that Alex knew even as he was writing the last few days that TR was not pleading guilty and that he Alex had been dropped, yet continued to talk, talk, and talk?

How is making an Alford guilty plea not pleading guilty? Thus far no Danny/Cindy clone has explained that.

Your venom sounds as if it could have been written or dictated by Danny himself. Pretty bad. Why do you feel so compelled to defend an admitted pedophile, and a lying, private inuring, kickback receiving adulterer?

None of the above is mere gossip or hearsay. It's all a matter of public record.

A year and a half ago, Tommy not only admitted molesting DT and Alex, he even tried to convince the judge he was sorry for doing so.

Danny has repeatedly been caught in lies, from whether his name was on the title of Linda's car to whether Linda went on vacations with Arild before he filed for divorce. How many hundreds of thousands of dollars of donations to 3ABN did Danny funnel into his own pockets? We don't know, but that the amount was significant is a proven fact. Even Simpson admitted that Danny received the kickback payments, though he tried without evidence to assert that PPPA was no longer the publisher. And if Danny did not commit adultery by divorcing Linda without biblical grounds and getting remarried, then he certainly would have produced the evidence he had long claimed to have, since he put that issue into the lawsuit, and we requested that evidence.

[Bob Pickle]

Sources have clarified the case numbers in the following manner:

• Case 786 contains five charges or counts pertaining to DT.
• Case 787 contains four charges or counts pertaining to AW.
• Case 1987 contains four charges or counts pertaining to DT.
• Case 1988 contains two charges or counts pertaining to AW.

The charges in the latter two cases are re-indictments of counts that the prosecutor agreed in the July 2010 plea agreement not to prosecute.

So if Tommy pled guilty yesterday to four felony charges, then it would appear that that guilty plea was probably exchanged for dropping AW's case.

AW's case was different than DT's case in that there was a corroborating witness in DT's case, and there wasn't in AW's case. If AW and DT could have been tried together, that could have helped. But as it was, it was only AW's word against Tommy's.

Bob,
Do you know what class the four felony charges are and the type of the charges?  I believe the sentence range would depend on the class.

I don't. FE-2010-0000786 was supposed to be two counts of carnal knowledge, and three counts of indecent acts. FE-2010-0001987 was supposed to be two counts each of the same.

[Johann]

Bob informs me that his grandmother has just died. As we express our condolence we understand that he will not be with us here until he has taken care of things in connection with her funeral.

[Johann]

I see that Bob has taken time to reply while I was writing. . .

[vestedinterest]

The Fairfax County Circuit Court Clerk's Office has provided the following information.

Tommy Shelton appeared before Judge Brett A. Kassabian on Wednesday, January 18, 2012, and entered "Alford Pleas" to each of the four counts of the indictment in case # FE-2010-0001987 relative to allegations brought by DT.  The first two counts were amended from Carnal Knowledge to Crime Against Nature and thus the pleas were:
Count I      Crime Against Nature            Alford Plea Entered
Count II     Crime Against Nature            Alford Plea Entered
Count III    Custodial Indecent Liberties   Alford Plea Entered
Count IV   Custodial Indecent Liberties   Alford Plea Entered

The three other cases [FE-2010-0000786, FE-2010-0000787 and FE-2010-0001988] were all dropped (nolle prosequi).  This action included all charges arising out of allegations by AW.

Judge Kassabian scheduled sentencing for Tommy Shelton for Friday, February 24, revoked bond and remanded him to the Fairfax County Adult Detention Center.

[Adam]

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Edited to remove inappropriate content.  Sam was caught here using multiple IDs and then ran and hid under a rock when found out.  Please keep his/her comments at the smut site where they belong.

Wow... an observation and question, Snoopy. Have you or others here ever noticed how sometimes darkness is actually palpable, and how anger can drown out reason, love and mercy?


Of course we will continue to post on the other site as you say. I didn't realize a rule was violated in my post or that Sam and even Sam's words were banned here until now, so my apologies if they were.

I thought you had honestly posted the following:

Re: Danny Shelton Servant of God
Quote from: Snoopy on: December 03, 2011, 10:29:30 AM »

Apparently the real "Sam" is too humiliated to admit personally that her account was hacked.  Sam, if that's really the case, please don't take it as a personal reflection on you!!  You are the victim here and cannot be blamed for the actions of the perpetrator.  I've had an account hacked before and it is not a good feeling...a feeling of being violated in a weird sort of way.

My bad. Perhaps I was mistaken... or you weren't being sincere? If so I am sorry. I actually believed you. I don't know how Sam could be called to admit to anything personally if not allowed to speak or even be quoted, again I am sorry if that upset you.

How about I post my take, thoughts, and questions to Bob instead while acknowledging that they  are in sync with others? (an Amen) I hope and pray that that will be acceptable here and doesn't violate any posted rules. I can't see how the content does or I wouldn't post it but you can judge, as can the other admins and members. Whether here or on our forum.


Bob,
why not admit that either you and or your sources continue to be liars. This is the kind of stuff has given your credibility score another zero, therefore you are still batting zero. You should work for the National Equiror because they exist by telling lies to the public.

The courts never bought your lies about DS and 3ABN even though you wasted years of your lives trying to prove the unprovable. It has occurred to me why you continue to do what you do....because you are so decieved that you have lost sight of truth! You continually lie by omission. You say TS pleaded guilty and leave out the Alfred plea is used for innocent people that want to take a plea for all kinds of different reasons, but can stand up in court and say they are not guilty, plea or no plea. But you left that tidbit out. You also left out that Alex's case is now dropped. The plea has been accepted and agreed upon.

Please be man enough to say that you hate TS, DS and 3ABN so much that you jumped the gun wanting to appear to be soooo in the know, that you took a risk and wrote what you wanted to happen about TS's case hoping it would be true?

Alex is a moot point....he has no case now and really never did have a legitimate case. The DA recognized that fact and dropped Alex's case without even a fight! AT is the only people who believed Alex's lies. You are blinded by hatred.
Funny thing that Alex decided to get "banned" as soon as it became public that he was dropped from the case because the DA didn't believe him enough to prosecute TR. Why? She found out about Alex's propensity to lie!

Does it surpise any of you that Alex knew even as he was writing the last few days that TR was not pleading guilty and that he Alex had been dropped, yet continued to talk, talk, and talk?

Did anyone here besides myself catch the fact that Alex turned all his hatred on Glen Dryden recently and even began to say positive things about TS?

Did anyone catch the fact that when Alex gets exposed he always claims he is having great physical problems..he seems to think this gives him an out..for telling his lies. You all do know about Alex's claims of having a brain tumor and all the other claims he has made to his family in attempts to get their sympathy. Problem is.....He didn't have a brain tumor!! Another lie!

Notice as he was being informed by the DA that they were dropping his case that he turned his attention to Dryden and started talking about his own alleged terrible health problems? Same ole' same ole'. Well at least you have to admit that he got you all ...hook, line and sinker! When TS had a quadruple bypass and then a massive stroke 7 months ago you all wanted medical records to prove it even though you knew the judge saw the authentic records and put the trial off for all these months because of those records. But not one person here asked Alex to show his records to prove he was having seizures.

And Pickle??? Don't you read the bible? If so, why would you spread hearsay..gossip that is not true and then ask for someone to show you proof of your false statements. Do you really believe that God does not hold you accountable for bearing false witness against your neighbor and spreading it on the world wide web? Are you so blind that you can't see that according to the bible YOU, who is either spreading gossip or is making the gossip up is accountable to God for not finding out the truth FIRST?

It is so sad that you do not have a life of your own, all the while trying to expose other people's sins when the mote is huge in your own eye.
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That's a lie. Alex informed Bob and his mother a couple weeks ago that he had agreed with the prosecutor on this. I believe he also mentioned to Bob last fall the prosecutor thought it might be best to tell the Defense we will drop one of the cases if Tommy pleads guilty to the other.

So shut up.

Alex has not hidden this fact at all that it was a possibility.  Don't believe me, call his mother!

[Adam]

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Edited to remove inappropriate content.  Sam was caught here using multiple IDs and then ran and hid under a rock when found out.  Please keep his/her comments at the smut site where they belong.

Wow... an observation and question, Snoopy. Have you or others here ever noticed how sometimes darkness is actually palpable, and how anger can drown out reason, love and mercy?


Of course we will continue to post on the other site as you say. I didn't realize a rule was violated in my post or that Sam and even Sam's words were banned here until now, so my apologies if they were.

I thought you had honestly posted the following:

Re: Danny Shelton Servant of God
Quote from: Snoopy on: December 03, 2011, 10:29:30 AM »

Apparently the real "Sam" is too humiliated to admit personally that her account was hacked.  Sam, if that's really the case, please don't take it as a personal reflection on you!!  You are the victim here and cannot be blamed for the actions of the perpetrator.  I've had an account hacked before and it is not a good feeling...a feeling of being violated in a weird sort of way.

My bad. Perhaps I was mistaken... or you weren't being sincere? If so I am sorry. I actually believed you. I don't know how Sam could be called to admit to anything personally if not allowed to speak or even be quoted, again I am sorry if that upset you.

How about I post my take, thoughts, and questions to Bob instead while acknowledging that they  are in sync with others? (an Amen) I hope and pray that that will be acceptable here and doesn't violate any posted rules. I can't see how the content does or I wouldn't post it but you can judge, as can the other admins and members. Whether here or on our forum.


Bob,
why not admit that either you and or your sources continue to be liars. This is the kind of stuff has given your credibility score another zero, therefore you are still batting zero. You should work for the National Equiror because they exist by telling lies to the public.

The courts never bought your lies about DS and 3ABN even though you wasted years of your lives trying to prove the unprovable. It has occurred to me why you continue to do what you do....because you are so decieved that you have lost sight of truth! You continually lie by omission. You say TS pleaded guilty and leave out the Alfred plea is used for innocent people that want to take a plea for all kinds of different reasons, but can stand up in court and say they are not guilty, plea or no plea. But you left that tidbit out. You also left out that Alex's case is now dropped. The plea has been accepted and agreed upon.

Please be man enough to say that you hate TS, DS and 3ABN so much that you jumped the gun wanting to appear to be soooo in the know, that you took a risk and wrote what you wanted to happen about TS's case hoping it would be true?

Alex is a moot point....he has no case now and really never did have a legitimate case. The DA recognized that fact and dropped Alex's case without even a fight! AT is the only people who believed Alex's lies. You are blinded by hatred.
Funny thing that Alex decided to get "banned" as soon as it became public that he was dropped from the case because the DA didn't believe him enough to prosecute TR. Why? She found out about Alex's propensity to lie!

Does it surpise any of you that Alex knew even as he was writing the last few days that TR was not pleading guilty and that he Alex had been dropped, yet continued to talk, talk, and talk?

Did anyone here besides myself catch the fact that Alex turned all his hatred on Glen Dryden recently and even began to say positive things about TS?

Did anyone catch the fact that when Alex gets exposed he always claims he is having great physical problems..he seems to think this gives him an out..for telling his lies. You all do know about Alex's claims of having a brain tumor and all the other claims he has made to his family in attempts to get their sympathy. Problem is.....He didn't have a brain tumor!! Another lie!

Notice as he was being informed by the DA that they were dropping his case that he turned his attention to Dryden and started talking about his own alleged terrible health problems? Same ole' same ole'. Well at least you have to admit that he got you all ...hook, line and sinker! When TS had a quadruple bypass and then a massive stroke 7 months ago you all wanted medical records to prove it even though you knew the judge saw the authentic records and put the trial off for all these months because of those records. But not one person here asked Alex to show his records to prove he was having seizures.

And Pickle??? Don't you read the bible? If so, why would you spread hearsay..gossip that is not true and then ask for someone to show you proof of your false statements. Do you really believe that God does not hold you accountable for bearing false witness against your neighbor and spreading it on the world wide web? Are you so blind that you can't see that according to the bible YOU, who is either spreading gossip or is making the gossip up is accountable to God for not finding out the truth FIRST?

It is so sad that you do not have a life of your own, all the while trying to expose other people's sins when the mote is huge in your own eye.
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Again, dingbag....Alex never denied his case may be dropped. After discussing the issue with his attorney's and the prosecutor they agreed.

Alex agreed to this, so Tommy would at least get some time!

Bob Pickle and Alex's own mother knew about this from Alex himself last fall....then again Last week.

[Adam]

You all seem to talk to Alex's mother, so call her.

Ask her if Alex didn't tell her last fall that there was a possiblility of him agreeing to this.

Ask her if she did not receive a call from Alex just LAST week stating the same.

Guess what.....Yesterday, after he received the call....guess who he called??? His MOTHER!


Also, Alex has offered to show his medical records to you creeps. Request a certified letter for them and you might receive them.

[Snoopy]

Here's the link to the Fairfax County Adult Detention Center, just in case anyone wants to send TS a letter...

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/sheriff/adc.htm

[Snoopy]

Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender…..really sad.


“Did anyone catch the fact that when Alex gets exposed he always claims he is having great physical problems..he seems to think this gives him an out..for telling his lies. You all do know about Alex's claims of having a brain tumor and all the other claims he has made to his family in attempts to get their sympathy. Problem is.....He didn't have a brain tumor!! Another lie!”

That has been Tommy Shelton’s modus operandi over the past few decades!  Could be common behavior of abused people…dunno.

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“I'm done posting in this thread.

Laters...”

You do exactly what Alex is doing – the hit and run.  Guess if you do it and he does it then it makes a ‘right’.

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NoSir – seems to me that you have an intimate relationship with Tommy Shelton.   (I’m presuming of course when I read you refer to him as TR (Tommy Ray)).  Is he remorseful for what he’s done?  Not just for abusing Dennis, but is he remorseful for abusing any or all of his victims?  Is he remorseful for hurting his Congregation in DL?

Or else he/she is posting on behalf of someone who does...  It's been known to happen... !!

By the way, I am happy to know what DARVO stands for - I was wondering...!!

[Artiste]

I have so far heard two conflicting reports of Tommy Shelton's emotional reactions to his behavior.

One, that he was remorseful and tried to convince of a judge of that in the past,

And two, that he is not remorseful because he is innocent of any wrong doing toward underage boys.

Which is it?

[Snoopy]

I have so far heard two conflicting reports of Tommy Shelton's emotional reactions to his behavior.

One, that he was remorseful and tried to convince of a judge of that in the past,

And two, that he is not remorseful because he is innocent of any wrong doing toward underage boys.

Which is it?

HAHA!!  Good point, Artiste!!

There's no wiggling out of this one, no matter how accomplished one's worm-like qualities are...