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[Alex L. Walker]

This barring there are no more continuances. I.E. fake stroke, depression, heart attack, or any other excuses that Tommy may try to make as he has in the past.

First Trial will be on the 23rd of January and the second will be on the 30th of January.

[Artiste]

Is there any chance there won't be more "fake" illnesses?

[Johann]

Is this a matter of prayer?

[Alex L. Walker]

Undercovering_Truth Post this:

Re: Judgments and Criticisms
by uncovering truth » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:53 am UTC

There is a tremendous amount of irony in Alex's latest rantings on AT. His continuous attacks on Tommy evidence a true hypocritical nature that has to cause one to question his claims to be a "pastor." The human race - especially sanctimonious "Christians" - doesn't take the Bible seriously. Either Jesus meant it when He said to forgive 70 x 7, either He meant it when He said to turn the other cheek, either He meant it when he said to love one's enemies or He didn't. There is nothing but vengeance, hatred, uncaring, in someone who can accuse someone of faking health issues that have been proven time and again. Alex will only be satisfied when Tommy dies, that is the only conclusion that one can come to when they read his posts. Pray his parishioners don't embrace the same values he does.

Alex L. Walker

Tommy Shelton criminal trials set for January.
« on: Today at 11:31:04 AM »
This barring there are no more continuances. I.E. fake stroke, depression, heart attack, or any other excuses that Tommy may try to make as he has in the past.

First Trial will be on the 23rd of January and the second will be on the 30th of January.

Would not bother me at all if he "died." You are correct. Tommy has faked this crap all of his life. Everyone knows that. When he know's his time is up then he fakes something. Proven? Then prove them Undercovering_Truth. You won't because you can't.

You all say that Tommy is "stressed" why?? Why is he so stressed if he is SO CONFIDENT he will win at trial? Makes no sense.

[princessdi]

Being caught and having to pay for your transgressions is very stressful.  Especailly if you and those around you are still living in the Land of Denial.   I don't doubt that he is ill and not faking these illnesses at all(well all except the stroke/nonstroke thingy. That was just inda wierd).  The very real possiblity of spending the rest of the short years you have left in prison is enough to send someone over the edge.  Not to mention living all those years with that guilt, and knowing more than everyone, that you have a serious mental problem to where you victimize children, and can't help "being nasty"(in my best Mr. Brown imitation)........that's stressful

I am not saying these things are undeserved and even self inflicted, but that they are stressful. 

[Alex L. Walker]

Re: Judgments and Criticisms
by Mercy » Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:40 pm UTC

I can testify Tommy has been near death several times due to his heart and stroke problems. He has had these illnesses for many years, long before the accusations of Alex Walker. But for Alex to say it would not bother him if Tommy Shelton died shows how small he is. But Alex seems to think he knows more than the highly educated doctors who diagnosed Tommy. Alex thinks he knows more than the hospital personnel who tested and evaluated Tommy from those tests. Alex thinks he knows more than the Judge who was presented with the evidence from the doctors and made a decision based on it. Alex says Tommy has always faked all his illnesses. He has no proof of this. But Tommy's father died at a young age of heart disease and this has been passed down to all his children.They all suffer with heart disease as well as other ailments. It is a miracle they are all still alive. It is only because God has kept them alive to do His work. I have been keeping track of what is said on these forums and can say the 'character' of all shine through and has convinced me easily who is on the side of right.

I will attatch quotes from people know know too well about Tommy's phony episodes.
(If an admin will fix my quotes like my good friend, Johann did, I will be most grateful.)

------ Original Message --------
From:  Scott Clem
Subject:  Re: My Original Message
Date:  Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:31:16 -0600



Hi, Brother Bob!

I've heard this all many times before. Tommy has "stress", "heart problems" or a "nervous breakdown" every time the heat is on. When his victims back off, he mysteriously gets better. I believe your suspicion of a "bald-faced lie" is right on the mark.

I hope his victims don't buy it this time. It's far past time for Tommy to face the music.

Scott                                 

Judy Woods tells us what it was like for her

January 18, 2007

Dear sir:

The subject I am about to approach absolutely boggles my mind! I cannot comprehend, even to this day, how one person, Tommy Shelton, with his deviate behavior, and all the while declaring that it was not true, could almost destroy our little church. We are, now, a handful of people at Ezra Church of God, that have sat here for decades with a black cloud over our head that seems as if it can never be removed. This type of situation only happens somewhere else, not here!

Why did we, as a congregation, allow it to come to this? Why did I not see what was happening, after all I was Sunday School superintendent? I was in a position where I could observe many of his interactions with the young people. Also, why did the young victims not report the fact that they were being molested to their parents or some authority figure? I know that one young person did go to city hall and made a statement to the police, but nothing happened! Did someone intervene on Tommy's behalf? I don't have the answers to these questions!

As I look back, I quickly realize that hindsight is 20/20. It was a time of chaos that overwhelmed me. I had Sunday School teachers quitting because of the accusations that were running rampant. Many had believed such accusations and left the church. Our church was literally falling apart! At this time, I decided to stand with the pastor. Did I ever question his innocence at this time. Yes, only to switch back to no almost immediately. The fact is that at this point I simply chose not to believe the accusations for, you see, I didn't want to believe them. After all, he was preaching holiness and musically talented. How could there be a dark side?

But, what is probably the key factor is Tommy has a way with words that can convince you that black is white. Any situation that arose that didn't seem kosher, I went directly to Tommy and questioned him on such. He always had an answer that made me say to myself, why did I ever ask!

But, I still had many questions along the way. One young man stood out in particular. He and Tommy were caught alone in a certain residence. Tommy lied and said that it was his son there. Not so! This same teenager would go along on family vacations with the Sheltons. Tommy would also tutor this boy in his office in the evenings.

In the past, other teenagers were used to drive him different places; for example, he would go to a recording studio quite regularly in Flora, IL, and, most always with a young driver.

These are just a few examples of what went on at Ezra.

In situations where Tommy needed to stand and fight for himself, he was always incapacitated, mostly nerve issues-- nervous breakdown, removing himself to California to escape the "heat," even admitting himself to a mental hospital in Centralia. Others in the congregation would try to fight his battles!

During his entire pastorate at Ezra, I stood by him and tried to help him even though I had questions. I suppose I was naive and blinded to a certain extent as to what was really going on.

What about today? Scripture says, "Be sure your sin will find you out." This is exactly what happened when the pieces of the puzzle fit perfectly into place leaving no doubt in my mind that Tommy is guilty of molesting teenagers.

The young man that has already been mentioned came to my house and told me exactly what Tommy did to him. This was during all the chaos at the church. No, at this point, I did not believe him. I confronted Tommy as to what he said. Tommy blamed the boy's parents for forcing him to tell this. Tommy told me that when the boy turns 21 years old, he would come back and tell me the "truth." I haven't seen the boy since!

Some years have now passed, and I spoke to a mother of another of Tommy's victims. She was talking about her son and Tommy. I ask her if her son had ever said what Tommy did to him. She proceeded to tell me what he said----which turned out to be exactly what the young man said that had come to my house some years before. This was the piece of the puzzle that completed the picture of guilt. These two boys were not in any way connected--not by age, locale or friendship!

My feelings, today, are of betrayal, being lied to over and over, and just, in general, being "used." But how I "feel" does not compare to the torment, agony, and embarrassment that the victims must endure for a lifetime! Only God knows how many victims there are!

By the way, this is not the end of the saga. Since the ruination of Ezra, which included many victims, Tommy has continued to pursue young men to victimize, one of which is Roger, a relative. He then moved on to the Community Church of God in Dunn Loring, VA, leaving more victims there! Only God knows just how many victims there are! This type of behavior must be stopped!

A big "thank you" to the SDA and the CCG for your pursuit of the truth. Please be persistent in your efforts. Tommy must be held accountable for his actions!

The thought that the situation at Ezra had been dealt with 30 years ago, is simply not true! We will know Tommy has repented of his sin when he bows on his knees before each of his victims and begs their forgiveness. Then he must stand before the congregations at Ezra and Dunn Loring and apologize for the agonizing devastation he has caused each church!

I close with some advice directed at Tommy----why don't you stand up and be a man for once in your life! Admit to what you've done and are doing! Stop the cop-out of a nervous breakdown, etc., when you're cornered! Stop hiding behind your fancy lawyer, which I am certain has never been told the real truth. If he had been, he would never have written the (2) threatening letters in an effort to protect a child molester. Stop hiding behind your wife and Danny, who have become your enablers, or, in other words, accessories! Your wife should never have allowed such behavior! Danny should never have put you on staff at 3ABN, nor should he have allowed you on camera, except it does show the world what a child molester looks like! Real godly sorrow and heartfelt repentance are in order, without which hell awaits! Then, after you've done all this, extreme long-term counseling would be the next step!

Perhaps, if all this were accomplished, maybe the black cloud over Ezra would slowly begin to dissipate!

Eyewitness Account: Sherry Avery
Tommy Shelton Caught

This will take awhile to explain but let me start by saying that in 1975 my husband and I were married at Ezra Church of God by Tommy Shelton. We were very close to Tommy and Carol (his wife) for a number of years. I had lived in Paducah with mutual friends before I was married; they were like family to all of us, We had a wonderful church family and God blessed my husband and me with two wonderful boys.

The problems started of course with the first accusations of misconduct with Brad Dunning. I knew Brad as a fine young man; he didn't go to our church but I knew his mother and grandfather. I didn't know quite how to handle what I had heard and I wasn't 100% sure of what went on. I couldn't feel free to disbelieve my pastor but I asked God to show me the truth before I could blame anyone. I just had to be sure I was right. What made it harder was that our mutual friends (from Paducah) had told us a couple of years before that they felt uneasy about Tommy bringing boys to their home and always wanting to counsel them in his room. This was tearing on me as I prayed that God would please make things clear to me so I could be 100% sure.

In late October 1984 I went to our mutual friends' weekend home (in West Frankfort) to look in her closet for the size of a blouse; her birthday was the next week and I wanted to buy her a gift. When I drove up to the house I saw Tommy's car in the driveway. I also saw two boys raking leaves in the backyard. I went to the door and rung the doorbell but no one came to open the door. I then went to the backyard and asked the boys (they were from our church) if they knew what Bro. Tommy was doing in the house. They said they hadn't seen him and that his car was there when they arrived. I went around to the door again and opened it with my key. When I went inside I saw both bedroom doors shut (unusual for my friends to shut these doors). This made me very nervous; I thought to myself, "Would Tommy have another woman in this house?"... I turned and went to the front porch and when I turned around and came back inside there was Tommy in his stocking feet coming up the stairs from the basement. He said he was checking to see if there was water on the basement floor. I thought that was very strange for when I went to the bedroom the door was opened and someone was in the bathroom. I asked him who was in the bathroom and he said it was his son, Ricky. I went into the bedroom and the bed was a total mess; the bedcovers were all in disarray. I was really getting nervous now and I went over to the closet and looked inside for the size and then got out of there.

I drove out to the church and walked into the Christian school gym and there was Ricky playing basketball with other boys. I then went upstairs where I knew they were having a meeting with new prospects for the school; I saw the principal's wife and motioned for her to come out. I asked her where Tommy was and she said he was with a certain boy somewhere.

I went to my car and proceeded to drive back to the house and on the way I saw Tommy's car coming down the road. I was sure the boy had hid when they saw my car coming down the country road. When I got back to the house I went inside and found the bedroom doors opened and the bed all made up. I walked back to the front porch and Tommy drove up. My question to him was, "What is going on? You've been caught haven't you?" His reply was, "I knew you would think that something was going on. I [page 2] was just cutting his hair." I asked him why the bed was a mess and he just said, "I don't know." He said he didn't have a chance anymore; he had to hide everything he did because everyone would think the worst. He then told me he would leave the church. I told him to do what he thought he should do and I left.

That afternoon he sent Carol to talk to me. She told me I was mistaken on what I saw and he was just trying to help this boy. She said I was just jealous of Tommy and his relationship with our mutual friends. I thought, why or how would he come up with that? She told me it would ruin the church and it would be my fault. We talked for hours that night just enough for me to question what I should do. I decided I would not tell anyone what went on that day but continue to watch and pray for God to tell me what to do. I thought it was enough to scare Tommy into changing his ways. I wanted him to get help.

Several months went by and I was praying constantly telling others I had a great burden and needed them to help me pray about it. One Sunday while at the same house with my friends, Ricky came in. He was really upset; his dad was going on another trip and was taking one of the young boys with him (the same boy that was at the house with him that day in October). Ricky cried and asked why his dad would take these other boys and not take him. Well, that did it for me. The next day I went to my friends (the mutual friends who owned the house) and told them the whole story. They both realized that Tommy had a problem and I will never forget the words said, "Even if he were my blood son he must be confronted; he must pay for his sins." That's all I needed, I had to go home and talk with one of the leaders in the church, the Sunday School Supt.

I told her (the Sunday School Supt.) what had happened and she told me she had been seeing things that didn't look right to her and she and her husband had questioned it. Her husband had seen cars at the church late at night when he had come home from work on midnight shift, cars that belonged to young boys. I told her I wanted to see the church get him help; he had a problem that was more than we could handle. She hugged me on her front porch and told me it would be taken care of.

Just two days later at Prayer Meeting she stood up and testified and ended with, "I love my pastor and I stand behind him 100%." I was shocked. Of course Tommy wasn't there because he was sick.

The next Sunday the Asst. Pastor and Principal of the Christian School stood up and said Tommy was having a nervous breakdown and would be out for a few weeks. That night he stood up and said, "Everyone that is behind our pastor stand up". Well, everyone stood up but me. I think I was in total shock at what was happening. The people that knew my life and me began to wonder what was going on; they knew something wasn't right. They began to call me but I still didn't tell what was going on, they soon got wind that I was jealous and trying to destroy the church.

Soon I did have to explain in detail what was going on and what had happened. There were many supporters of Tommy that gave our family a hard time, even to the point of [page 3] writing nasty letters to my mother-in-law, who didn't have a thing to do with what happened; she had been gone from Ezra Church for a long time. I think maybe there should be some apologies made before there can be healing. Even the young men that came forward had terrible things said about them; some supporters made the comment that you couldn't believe these boys because they weren't Christians and going to church. I wonder how many young men that were molested by their pastors are in church today? It was hard enough for me to ever trust a pastor or the church people again. I lost all confidence in those people that knew what was going on and still backed Tommy, yet I didn't lose hope in the God I knew. These were the things that led to Tommy losing his credentials with the Church of God, Anderson, Indiana, the awful sins he committed against the children! Those that are still backing Tommy (I think we know who they are) need to realize that the judgment is coming and is swift. The devil wants to deceive us all; open your eyes people: it's time to make it right.

Sincerely,

Sherry Avery

Roger Clems Letter to Tommy:

Mr. Shelton,

I am writing this letter in regards to last year's phone conversation. I told you then I was confronting you about what you did to me so I could deal with my feelings about it. I did not then, nor will I now, make any apologies [to] anyone who might be upset with me.

My attitude has changed towards this situation. I thought I could just handle this and go on with my life, but now I realize I cannot. You ruined the better part of 15 years of my life. I was afraid to date anyone, I let people walk all over me, and I felt lower than dirt. The years you destroyed should have been some of the best years of my life. While everyone was out doing what they enjoyed, I was constantly working to try to take my mind off what happened. You destroyed my self-esteem and that I'm still battling today. I have no confidence in myself to accomplish major tasks in life.

It kind of makes me wonder about the other guys that you abused. All of the ones that I know about have had failed marriages. Doesn't it make YOU wonder what they are going through, or do you even care?

You were supposed to be someone people could put their trust in and look up to, and here you were doing some of the most disgusting and immoral things you could do. While you were preaching to everyone how they should honor their marriage vows, you were cheating on your own wife, and with who, teenage boys. We had our whole lives ahead of us and you put us through hell on earth. I don't know how you could look yourself in the mirror, let alone get up and preach to people about how they ought to live.

When someone would confront you about what you did, you would try to take the attention off of what you did by having some sort of health problem (loss of memory, heart problems, nervous breakdown). It seemed odd to me that you recovered quick when you realized that you were in the clear.

You really disgust me. It makes me sick to realize how many lives you damaged and the only time that you feel the need to apologize is when it all comes back up again. Then you put on this POOR PITIFUL ME act (how you wish it didn't happen, the reason you do this is because you were abused as a child, you would take it all back if you could, and the all-time favorite, please don't put my family through this again). What about what you put all of us through?

Then what makes me mad is when your brother calls to try to scare people into not saying anything or when the church receives a letter from Mike Riva telling us to stop saying anything. I heard (I don't know for sure) that the reason for the letter was to protect your livelihood. What about my livelihood? I feel like I don't have the confidence to achieve the things that I want to in life.

I know this letter seems hateful, I Don't Care. I'm tired of not saying anything just so I won't upset people.

Guess what, it gets better. I have been checking the laws on reporting sexual abuse. There was a new law passed that extends the age that you can report abuse to age 38, I'm 32. So here is what I'm going to do. I'm going to let you decide what you should do to make amends for what you did.

I will tell you up front, if I get a letter or phone call from your brother or an attorney that in any way appears threatening, I will immediately go to the sheriff's office and file charges against you. This has gone on long enough with nothing being done. This is Not a threat.

It all rests on you Tommy, let your conscience be your guide. I will not wait long before I will decide what action is best to resolve this.

Roger W. Clem

Hmmmm doesn't have a "history" huh, Mercy?

Then he fakes this so called stroke to cause the latest continuance. Let's see what he pulls closer to January.

 

[Sam]

Undercovering_Truth Post this:

Re: Judgments and Criticisms
by uncovering truth » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:53 am UTC

There is a tremendous amount of irony in Alex's latest rantings on AT. His continuous attacks on Tommy evidence a true hypocritical nature that has to cause one to question his claims to be a "pastor." The human race - especially sanctimonious "Christians" - doesn't take the Bible seriously. Either Jesus meant it when He said to forgive 70 x 7, either He meant it when He said to turn the other cheek, either He meant it when he said to love one's enemies or He didn't. There is nothing but vengeance, hatred, uncaring, in someone who can accuse someone of faking health issues that have been proven time and again. Alex will only be satisfied when Tommy dies, that is the only conclusion that one can come to when they read his posts. Pray his parishioners don't embrace the same values he does.

Alex L. Walker

Tommy Shelton criminal trials set for January.
« on: Today at 11:31:04 AM »
This barring there are no more continuances. I.E. fake stroke, depression, heart attack, or any other excuses that Tommy may try to make as he has in the past.

First Trial will be on the 23rd of January and the second will be on the 30th of January.

Would not bother me at all if he "died." You are correct. Tommy has faked this crap all of his life. Everyone knows that. When he know's his time is up then he fakes something. Proven? Then prove them Undercovering_Truth. You won't because you can't.

You all say that Tommy is "stressed" why?? Why is he so stressed if he is SO CONFIDENT he will win at trial? Makes no sense.

Only a very uneducated person would make statements like this. Why?  Because there are medical records in an assortment of hospitals to prove different. The lawyers have them, and so does the judge.  Use some sense... do you think the judge would have changed the original date of trial without complete proof that Tommy had a massive stroke? Proof in the form of Cat scan and MRI pictures as well as all the data from the hospital and doctors records. Records that show the stroke damaged a portion of the brain close to the brain stem which can never rejuvanate itself. There are certainly the records of a quadruple bypass, 6 or 7 stents over a period of years and 2 heart attacks to warrant those stents and presently rehab to try and teach him to be able to walk without a walker. So far not successful. The judge also has a record of rehab reports.

How can anyone on this forum really think that all of these reports and doctors statements are fake?  More importantly..do you take the judge for a fool?

[Bob Pickle]

Re: Judgments and Criticisms
by Mercy » Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:40 pm UTC

I can testify Tommy has been near death several times due to his heart and stroke problems.

I don't want testimony. I want documentation.

Only a very uneducated person would make statements like this. Why?  Because there are medical records in an assortment of hospitals to prove different.

Then produce the medical records!!!!!!!

But remember, from what I recall, someone claimed that Tommy was given morphine after the "stroke," when morphine is supposedly never given to stroke victims, because morphine increases the risk of strokes.

[Bob Pickle]

I talked with a medical professional, and their reaction about the morphine was, "That's weird." We then found info that said that you don't give morphine to stroke patients. One problem is that morphine increases risk of stroke.

See now Bob, since I don't anything about medicine other than to take some when I need it, this thought also crossed my mind but I didn't say anything.  Maybe somebody who has some knowledge in the area would be kind enough to elaborate.

Sam saying he was on morphine raises the question of whether he even had a stroke, since morphine isn't something you give stroke patients.

He probably went to Rush Foundation Hospital. There was a Tommy Shelton there.

The first trial is scheduled for the last week in May, and the second one is for the first week in June. Now, regardless of what the other site says....saying Tommy refuses to accept another plea deal...the truth is both victims have informed the prosecutor they are not interested in offering TS one. They are fully prepared and ready to testify against this scum bag. May justice be done, and may ALL his victims receive closure that they both desire and deserve!

Sorry, as anxious as you all are to get some money the criminal trial will be postponed indefinitely since TS has had a massive stroke that has done some damage to the brain. If you haven't heard from the prosecutor yet, you will. It matters not whether she is "buying it" has someone cannot fake a stroke, especially a massive stroke. An MRI, a Cat scan and an MRA have all been performed to prove the diagnosis. He has been hospitalized since Saturday night and all the medical reports are on their way from the treating doctor. The balance center of the brain is what has been damaged so he cannot keep his balance at all is extremely dizzy which in turns causes him to not be able to keep anything down. He has been on morphine as the pain in his head is excrutiating.  When the prosecutor receives the documentation I will expect her to apologize to Tommy's attorney for her pitiful attitude. FYI TS would rather be at the trial next week instead versus suffering the effects of a massive stroke. Did it ever occur to any of you that he is anxious to get this over with, be vindicated and get on with life?  When a jury sees that your side is only out for money and listens to Alex's story...let's see how does it go now?  He was molested at 11 years old when he was virginia and it traumitized and ruined his life..yet...when he was 15 he decided to go work at the place where his former molester worked! Not only that but somehow he allowed himself to be alone with this molester not just once but over and over again in a facility that employes over 125 people. Then somehow though he was 15 and a big strapping lad even then, he couldn't get away or call for help. Again the question will be asked if he was molested at 3abn how in the world would he put himself in a position for it to happen repeatedly? If he was molested in Va why would he go anywhere near where his molester worked 4 years later? Not to mention keeping it all quiet for 15 years.

There are so many holes in that story his own mother is willing to testify against him.  Before you try to deny that again, Bob Pickle has fantasized over the years that he is "quite the investigator" So Bob, I challenge you to call Alex's mother yourself and see what she has to say. After all Bob, you have always claimed to want the "truth".

If TS dies it will be on your heads as the stress of all of this has caused it. Adam maybe you really believe Alex's accusations but Alex knows none of it is true.  At the end of time Alex will cry out for the rocks and mountains to fall on his head rather than face the judgement he will reap trying to destroy a family and a ministry.

BTW your post of how you do not hate TS is so ridiculous when you have made hundreds of posts in the past months that have been full of hate, revenge and cruelty. So...I'm not buying your latest one.

And, Alex your sister says the last time you came to visit she caught you smoking pot. (Don't kill the messenger) Weird for someone who professes to be a preacher.

[Sam]

Undercovering_Truth Post this:

Re: Judgments and Criticisms
by uncovering truth » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:53 am UTC

There is a tremendous amount of irony in Alex's latest rantings on AT. His continuous attacks on Tommy evidence a true hypocritical nature that has to cause one to question his claims to be a "pastor." The human race - especially sanctimonious "Christians" - doesn't take the Bible seriously. Either Jesus meant it when He said to forgive 70 x 7, either He meant it when He said to turn the other cheek, either He meant it when he said to love one's enemies or He didn't. There is nothing but vengeance, hatred, uncaring, in someone who can accuse someone of faking health issues that have been proven time and again. Alex will only be satisfied when Tommy dies, that is the only conclusion that one can come to when they read his posts. Pray his parishioners don't embrace the same values he does.

Alex L. Walker

Tommy Shelton criminal trials set for January.
« on: Today at 11:31:04 AM »
This barring there are no more continuances. I.E. fake stroke, depression, heart attack, or any other excuses that Tommy may try to make as he has in the past.

First Trial will be on the 23rd of January and the second will be on the 30th of January.

Would not bother me at all if he "died." You are correct. Tommy has faked this crap all of his life. Everyone knows that. When he know's his time is up then he fakes something. Proven? Then prove them Undercovering_Truth. You won't because you can't.

You all say that Tommy is "stressed" why?? Why is he so stressed if he is SO CONFIDENT he will win at trial? Makes no sense.

Your words speak volumes about your ignorance and character. This from a man who has stated on this forum that his family is against him for what he is doing. This from a man who's own mother and father testified against him on video. Why would parents and siblings turn on a family member without cause? They wouldn't.  Your past of mental instability, habitual lies, drug use, law suit threats against others and deviate behaviour has caused your family to turn against you. They know you are lying and they know you are all about getting money from your claims.  They know that you were "let go" from your supposed pastor job and they know why. They know that while saying you were a pastor you were living a gay lifestyle. Now everyone can see the change from your early posts months ago, when you claimed to be a pastor, and talked about praying for Tommy and not wishing bad for him, just justice etc etc. Now look where you are. You wouldn't mind seeing him dead as well as many other unchristian, unpastor like statements.  Simple to unravel. In the beginning you were going through your act of serving God, straightening out your life and only doing what your doing to get healing.  But, over the last months the real you has emerged. The one who doesn't quote scripture, but bashes. The one who threatens to sue his siblings if and when his mother dies. The one that asked on this forum if being gay was wrong? The one who has changed his story at least 4 different times that I know of. The one that was dumped by his first 2 lawyers when they did some investigating into your past.  The one that told his mother he was going after 3abn because "that's where the big bucks were".  Why would a mother testify to that if it wasn't true?  She wouldn't.

Alex you can lie and you can cheat and you can make or change your claims accordingly to what you need at the time. But, you will pay...whether it be on this earth or in the life to come. God hates liars and your own family will testify that you are the biggest of liars.

[Alex L. Walker]

Undercovering_Truth Post this:

Re: Judgments and Criticisms
by uncovering truth » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:53 am UTC

There is a tremendous amount of irony in Alex's latest rantings on AT. His continuous attacks on Tommy evidence a true hypocritical nature that has to cause one to question his claims to be a "pastor." The human race - especially sanctimonious "Christians" - doesn't take the Bible seriously. Either Jesus meant it when He said to forgive 70 x 7, either He meant it when He said to turn the other cheek, either He meant it when he said to love one's enemies or He didn't. There is nothing but vengeance, hatred, uncaring, in someone who can accuse someone of faking health issues that have been proven time and again. Alex will only be satisfied when Tommy dies, that is the only conclusion that one can come to when they read his posts. Pray his parishioners don't embrace the same values he does.

Alex L. Walker

Tommy Shelton criminal trials set for January.
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This barring there are no more continuances. I.E. fake stroke, depression, heart attack, or any other excuses that Tommy may try to make as he has in the past.

First Trial will be on the 23rd of January and the second will be on the 30th of January.

Would not bother me at all if he "died." You are correct. Tommy has faked this crap all of his life. Everyone knows that. When he know's his time is up then he fakes something. Proven? Then prove them Undercovering_Truth. You won't because you can't.

You all say that Tommy is "stressed" why?? Why is he so stressed if he is SO CONFIDENT he will win at trial? Makes no sense.

Your words speak volumes about your ignorance and character. This from a man who has stated on this forum that his family is against him for what he is doing. This from a man who's own mother and father testified against him on video. Why would parents and siblings turn on a family member without cause? They wouldn't.  Your past of mental instability, habitual lies, drug use, law suit threats against others and deviate behaviour has caused your family to turn against you. They know you are lying and they know you are all about getting money from your claims.  They know that you were "let go" from your supposed pastor job and they know why. They know that while saying you were a pastor you were living a gay lifestyle. Now everyone can see the change from your early posts months ago, when you claimed to be a pastor, and talked about praying for Tommy and not wishing bad for him, just justice etc etc. Now look where you are. You wouldn't mind seeing him dead as well as many other unchristian, unpastor like statements.  Simple to unravel. In the beginning you were going through your act of serving God, straightening out your life and only doing what your doing to get healing.  But, over the last months the real you has emerged. The one who doesn't quote scripture, but bashes. The one who threatens to sue his siblings if and when his mother dies. The one that asked on this forum if being gay was wrong? The one who has changed his story at least 4 different times that I know of. The one that was dumped by his first 2 lawyers when they did some investigating into your past.  The one that told his mother he was going after 3abn because "that's where the big bucks were".  Why would a mother testify to that if it wasn't true?  She wouldn't.

Alex you can lie and you can cheat and you can make or change your claims accordingly to what you need at the time. But, you will pay...whether it be on this earth or in the life to come. God hates liars and your own family will testify that you are the biggest of liars.

Oh, boy where to start.

First, enough talk and produce the blasting video. Talk is cheap. Think that video will hold up in court? Nope. Sorry.

Second,

You said: They know that you were "let go" from your supposed pastor job and they know why............  Liar, liar, I resigned. Prove otherwise.

The one who threatens to sue his siblings if and when his mother dies. WHAT? You are so full of crap. Prove this big talker.  As you won't because you are INSANE!

You said The one that asked on this forum if being gay was wrong? WHERE DID I SAY THIS??

The one that was dumped by his first 2 lawyers when they did some investigating into your past.  The one that told his mother he was going after 3abn because "that's where the big bucks were".  Why would a mother testify to that if it wasn't true?  She wouldn't.

My mother claims you are a liar. She said I never said that. Anyone like to call my mother? Would anyone like to call John Manly? To prove this is a delusional psycopathic liar??  IF SO PM ME. Would anyone like to contact my former church???

Haha, SAM if nothing else you are a good laugh, that's for sure.

Notice: SAM will not produce proof as they cannot. They run their mouth then hide for weeks, when revealed how much of a liar they are.

[Alex L. Walker]

It is pretty sad, when I have to call my mother to refute statments such as Sam's and listen to her cry. Some people are just sick.

[Alex L. Walker]

FACT: I have stated that if my attorney's believe there is reason to go after my brother, Brad Walker, I would NOT have an issue with it. That would be THE ONLY sibling that I have stated I'd ever go after.  Now, Sam, to add after my mother dies is just a plain LIE.  But.......even if that is what Sam was saying why did he say this:

The one who threatens to sue his siblings if and when his mother dies. I have not threatened to sue anyone .....I have clearly stated if Brad is added I would have no issue.


FACT:

My mother denies talking to anyone from my former church.

FACT:

My mother denys that she supposadly stated what Sam implies.

FACT:

There was a video produced, but the 3ABN "endulgers and pedophile lovers" are to coward to produce it.

Now, Sam.........Care to prove me wrong and make me into a liar? I have a witness to my mother's phone conversation with myself...if you care to try.  However, my mother will not lie, and she called YOU A LIAR.


Notice: Time and time again Sam's post are easily refuted, because they are based on rumor and unsupported lies. After "Sam" is called out on his nonsense "Sam" so quickly disappears.........wonder why???

[Bob Pickle]

God hates liars and your own family will testify that you are the biggest of liars.

Sam, who is a bigger liar? Alex or Danny?

[Johann]

God hates liars and your own family will testify that you are the biggest of liars.

Not only this statement but quite a bit of what Sam claims here are shown to be standard claims made by guilty Church Officers no matter what denomination they belong to, according to people who have examined offenders and victims for years. I heard one of them on the TV news this evening.