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[Murcielago]

Hey Sam, now that you have established your bona fides and shown us the depth of your veracity, perhaps you will grace us with explanation for the results of the research that Alex so quickly compiled?

[Gregory]

I believe that the 70% figure is correct as it is twice the 35% figrue.  But, as I said,,75% is close.

[ex3abnemployee]

Hey Sam, now that you have established your bona fides and shown us the depth of your veracity, perhaps you will grace us with explanation for the results of the research that Alex so quickly compiled?

Isn't it ironic that the one who called Alex a "habitual liar" was proven to be one by the very same person? That must really sting.

[princessdi]

Yes, I agree, but Jesus was not here to be a pastor or at that time priest, Pharisee, Sadducee(sp).  He had a very special ministry.  ther is no comparison to His ministry, neither should there be, as no one else is qualified to be Savior of the world. 

That did not keep him from establishing the system for Levite priests in the OT where the other 11 tribes paid that tithe to support them in the 24/7 work, and those were the priest and musicians. So, you have God acknowledging the fact that if He required that kind of time from them, he provided for the daily needs of them and their families.  I believe that to be the cloest we have today. I don't believe you can compare the two.  I don't even believe that the apostles are a good comparison, and they traveled around and left others in leadership over the churches they "planted", so to speak.

Please DO NOT think that I am in favor of all the corruption and abuse to the system, but we do have to be practical, as least as practical as God seemed to be when He instituted the system. 

Again, Princess, I ask how much Jesus' salary was, how expensive was his house, how many chariots and horses did he have at donor expense? When he died what did he leave other than the clothes off his back? Nothing but a legacy of healing, forgiving, and rebuilding everyone around him. Jesus took nothing but gave everything. Is anyone we know of better or more deserving than him? any pastor, singer, evangelist, televangelist, or any other person purporting to represent God to the rest of us? If Jesus didn't take from the people and become wealthier than them, who should? Who amongst us deserves more than Jesus?

And what happened to the fools who tried to profit off the gospel in the new testament? Based on that, how should we deal with or view those who profit off the gospel today?

[Murcielago]

And when Jesus came, he eliminated the system that had been established in the OT.

[princessdi]

Not arguing that, neither am I saying that the system now is modeled exactly as the OT system, just that it is the closer to it than the ministries of Jesus and the apostles.

And when Jesus came, he eliminated the system that had been established in the OT.

[Murcielago]

Not arguing that, neither am I saying that the system now is modeled exactly as the OT system, just that it is the closer to it than the ministries of Jesus and the apostles.

And when Jesus came, he eliminated the system that had been established in the OT.

True. I just find it interesting that Christian groups, denominations and leaders like the idea of Jesus and some of his teachings, but not the system he introduced. They choose to model themselves after the OT system to the specific exclusion of what he and the apostles introduced.

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

Teresa, you think you know who I am?  I have never met Tammy Chance or Bruce Chance in person. I assume that is who you mean by saying Tammy? I have never been to 3ABN. Like I said, I did some investigating and got this info.  I personally talked to a number of people who all said the same thing.  I added two plus two and found it equaled four.

Sam,

Produce your list of sources for your drama and I shall be happy to follow-up with my own investigation...after all, we have certainly proven our ability to get the REAL STORY out of Sheltonville!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter

[Artiste]

Teresa, you think you know who I am?  I have never met Tammy Chance or Bruce Chance in person. I assume that is who you mean by saying Tammy? I have never been to 3ABN. Like I said, I did some investigating and got this info.  I personally talked to a number of people who all said the same thing.  I added two plus two and found it equaled four.

Sam,

Produce your list of sources for your drama and I shall be happy to follow-up with my own investigation...after all, we have certainly proven our ability to get the REAL STORY out of Sheltonville!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter

Sheltonville . . . is that like Chicagoland?

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

Clear similarities...just different wanna-be Chicagoland characters.

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter

[Artiste]

I noticed that Danny Shelton is quoted on the 3ABN website saying that “Our goal is to work with the Seventh-day Adventist Church, and we’re especially excited about working with our church’s General Conference President, Pastor Ted Wilson..."

So how well is Seventh-day Adventist General Conference President Ted Wilson working with 3ABN?

[Alex L. Walker]

I noticed that Danny Shelton is quoted on the 3ABN website saying that “Our goal is to work with the Seventh-day Adventist Church, and we’re especially excited about working with our church’s General Conference President, Pastor Ted Wilson..."

So how well is Seventh-day Adventist General Conference President Ted Wilson working with 3ABN?

I guess we shall find out during discovery what role the GC had in the cover up.  We probably will not receive word on the decision in my case until sometime before Christmas or after.

[Johann]

I noticed that Danny Shelton is quoted on the 3ABN website saying that “Our goal is to work with the Seventh-day Adventist Church, and we’re especially excited about working with our church’s General Conference President, Pastor Ted Wilson..."

So how well is Seventh-day Adventist General Conference President Ted Wilson working with 3ABN?

Who is working for whom?

[Nosir Myzing]

Teresa, you think you know who I am?  I have never met Tammy Chance or Bruce Chance in person. I assume that is who you mean by saying Tammy? I have never been to 3ABN. Like I said, I did some investigating and got this info.  I personally talked to a number of people who all said the same thing.  I added two plus two and found it equaled four.

I think we may have just witnessed an identity change, right here before our very eyes...  Imagine that.

Teresa, don't bother responding to that.  It's a moving identity target...

Teresa Shelton? I don't know if that is true or not...as anyone can claim to be anyone... If it is, then in my opinion this is out of line. Petty family squabbles and this kind of public airing of dirty laundry has no more business being here than Alex's petty and vicious attacks of his brother, Brad, which have nothing to do with his lawsuit. I do personally know Sam though, and although I find the guessing about Sam's identity hilarious and keep wondering who Sam will be identified as next week or month.. I don't recognize this poster either.

Something is wrong and weird here... and I personally find this troubling. Sam has always been consistent till now. To the best of my knowledge, there has only been one Sam up till now, and the Sam I know would not deliberately ever lie or be deceitful, and is too intelligent to undermine their own credibility and void all their earlier testimony and shared knowledge as this post obviously does. (nor would they allow another to post to do so in their name.) For what it's worth my initial thought and inclination is to think someone, somehow, has hacked Sam's account. I am going to make inquiries and find out what's going on here for myself and would advise others to do the same before forming conclusions about either Sam or polymark.

[Bob Pickle]

SirMizer, your statement:

Teresa Shelton? I don't know if that is true or not...as anyone can claim to be anyone... If it is, then in my opinion this is out of line. Petty family squabbles and this kind of public airing of dirty laundry has no more business being here than Alex's petty and vicious attacks of his brother, Brad, which have nothing to do with his lawsuit.

seems to conflict with your statement:

I am going to make inquiries and find out what's going on here for myself and would advise others to do the same before forming conclusions about either Sam or polymark.

It seems to conflict because you appear to have formed conclusions about what polymark described while advising folks not to form conclusions about polymark.

Now after inquiring, if you report back, please be so kind as to tell us something about the source of your information so that we can evaluate its credibility.

Could you please explain to us why you think that pointing a loaded gun at someone is a "petty family squabble" that should never be made public, which clearly would include never filing a police report and never seeking a protective order? So are there any domestic abuse crimes that you do think should be prosecuted, or do you think that nothing should ever be made public even if the enraged pulls the trigger?

Really, your dismissing such allegations as being petty is pretty sick.