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[Gailon Arthur Joy]

I must admit we have much ado about nothing in Sir Mizer's most recent posts...is it possible she IS SEEING THE LIGHT...ready for confession and repentance in preparation for revival and reformation???

I have seen stranger things, but at some point, the most ardent supporter of DLS has frequently become a serious detractor!!!

I can site several times during the investigative process when initial contacts with witnesses resulted in venomous responses only to later, bitten by conscience and duty, gave very informative and collaterally provable evidence.

If this is the party we believe it to be, that party is a reformer in spirit, albeit a bit of a separationist, from the early and mid '90's; a position not all that disimilar to DLS and family in this period. In fact the co-founder of the ministry became an avid separationist and even set up an independent church and wrote in the Grossbol's Steps to Life magazine. Do I not recall that the Late Ralph Larson ordained him at a Steps to Life Camp Meeting in the mid 90's?

So, be prepared for a surprise as I suspect it is coming!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy
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[Gailon Arthur Joy]

EXCELLENT OBSERVATION...perfectly fits the arrogance and the hypocrisy of a ministry lead by unrepentant adulterers determined to save a pedophile from his accountability!!!

Justice cometh...tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock.... at the hands of Gentiles!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy
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Gailon,

There is another possible scenario. It's found in Josephus' history of the destruction of Jerusalem, as well as the first chapter of The Great Controversy. The Jewish rebels in 66 to 70 AD were certain that God was on their side, and would never allow the Romans to conquer them, even as those same rebels slaughtered each other mercilessly, stole, deceived, and broke the Sabbath.

So they may have a lot of fear right now, but then again they might not have any more fear than the Jewish rebels did during the Jewish Revolt of 66 to 70 AD.

[Johann]

In connection with this discussion I'd like to make it clear that I am not a spokesperson for Linda Shelton nor Dr. Ariil Abrahamsen. If anyone has questions I invite them to read what I already have written. It is true that Dr. Arild Abrhamsen and I had a talk this morning about the court case where we discussed reactions and how that is helping him, but if anyone has any further questions I'd suggest you wait and see, or if you have a lawyer, request him to contact Dr. Abrahamsen.

[Sister]

I have a question, although in hindsight it is probably rhetorical in nature. Why, seven years later is Brenda Walsh still feeding the rumor mill with accusations against Linda Shelton? Since some have voiced the opinion that any further attempt by Linda to clear her reputation is little more than beating a dead horse, then why is Brenda still resuscitating it and keeping it alive through continued embellishment and spreading of her accusations from 2004? Brenda claimed to have had a demon visitation and was instructed by said demon to spread the “truth” about Linda. Another question, since when does a demon become an advocate of truth? And why would any Christian allow herself to be instructed and lead by a demon? Satan is the father of lies and demons are his minions. One of the tasks demons fulfill is to spread lies and raise havoc among God’s faithful servants. So, how is it that Brenda is still actively following the instructions of a demon while involved in Christian ministry? Surely, I am not the only one that sees a discrepancy in this situation? Who has supported her in obtaining this thriving ministry and how was it accomplished? Danny Shelton, through continued 3ABN programming and making Brenda the head of the 3ABN children’s network, has given her the platform to establish a ministry. 3ABN supports and promotes her books and Tommy Shelton has been an essential part of her music ministry and the production of her music CD’s. The cookbooks she produces with her sisters are promoted through their cooking programs on 3ABN.With all the fame and acceptability within Adventist circles that Brenda has gained through her association with Danny Shelton, isn’t it a bit suspect that she continues to heap coals of false accusations against Linda Shelton after all this time? Why hasn’t Brenda moved on with her life? What does she gain by continued slander against Linda Shelton? When a murder is committed, motive is a primary part of identifying a suspect. Brenda has gained so much through her falsehoods and out right lies. What does she have to loose if Linda’s reputation is restored and she regains a ministry within the SDA Church? You do the math...

Sister

[guide4him]

I agree with your comments Sister. A demon tells Brenda to say things against Linda. Apparently that demon has not come back to tell Brenda she can quit spreading lies and slander against Linda.

 Satan must be so happy with Brenda working for him. Don't think he will be asking Brenda to stop any time soon. He is having lots of fun with Brenda on his side.

Just my own humble opinion.

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

I have a question, although in hindsight it is probably rhetorical in nature....within the SDA Church? You do the math...

Sister

Sister, you have answered your own question but for those with challenged MATH SKILLS, 1 + 1 still equals 2, 2+2 still equals 4, 3+3 still equals 6, etc...in other words when a married man has no biblical basis for divorce and is willing to "have sexual relations with that woman"...it is still ADULTERY...Danny Lee Shelton is now an "ADULTERER...TWICE REMOVED, The story of a televangelist"...SISTER...great name for a new book.

Then there is also a need for a new serial on Tommy Ray Shelton...perhaps we can resurrect Von Braun to do a sequel "PEDOPHILE...THRICE REMOVED, The story of a Televangelist's Brother".

And just to wrap things up, perhaps a final book "RACKETEERING ONCE REMOVED..." and THE FINAL CHAPTER..."PAYING THE PIPER!!!" Bob, that would be your perfect opportunity to publish a block-buster!!!

Oh, I forgot to mention that 1+2 equals 3...three great books...now if we could just get Linda to do one. well, 3 + 1 equals what? 4 Again???

Om, my, Mr Gregory, are we just creating four new victims???

Let's go for it!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy
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[Sister]

I seldom take the time to sift through the muck at Cindy’s site, but I most quote the following recently posted by “Truth”: “Brenda does not listen to demons or have anything to do with them.” I do not know who this person is or how he/she receives information, but error is error, and needs to be exposed and corrected. If Johann would be so kind as to post an excerpt from an email he received from Dr. Walter Thompson, chairman of the 3ABN board of Directors, referring to Brenda Walsh’s demon experience, I am sure it could shed further light upon the subject. Perhaps Johann also has other sources of information that he would be willing to share concerning Brenda Walsh and her demon experience.

Sister

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

Goes with a premise I have had from day one: They cannot tell the same story twice, let alone three times.

Yes, let's role out "Brenda's Demon"...or is it the Demon Brenda??? After all, if the demons are authors of lies, Brenda has sure authored a few whoppers!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy
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[princessdi]

LOL!!!!  you guys have got to be kidding!  Ok so let me get this straight......Brenda Walsh, along with Danny and his supporters, actually spoke out loud about Brenda acting upon a 'demon" who appeared to her in a dream/vision and told her to tell "the thruth" about linda, and NONE of them were suspect.  IOW, plainly stated, to be completely clear.......all this time Brenday Walsh has been acting under the direction of satan?  Please, Pastor Johann, do post that letter.  I've got to see this on for myself.

[Johann]

There is no email. Brenda herself is supposed to have called John Lomacang around 2 a.m. to tell him that a demon had thrown down a basket from a shelf in her apartment and this frightened her so that she had to call  John in the middle of night to confess her "sins". She is supposed to have confessed them, but as she told them she got the identities mixed up and said it was Linda who had done it, and her version has recently been verified at the other site.

Shortly after this happened I called Dr. Walt Thompson on the phone to discuss the event with him. I was astonished to hear his reply at that time. I made a note of it, since is was so unique. He claimed that the demon was benefiting 3ABN. How would you understand that? Until that moment I had hopes that Walt, as the chairman of the board, would help solve the crisis. When I heard him say that I started wondering.

Do you think this sounds crazy? I agree with that, just like almost anything else that happened after that.

There are still two witnesses against one who agree that Brenda turned everything around when she told her tales of  what  happened. How is the Biblical principle in a case like that?

It was Brenda's filthy lies who started this case. Those lies have been repeated so often that some people believe it actually happened the way Brenda tells it - just to please Danny!

[Sister]

Thank you, Johann. Sorry I thought it was an email from Walt Thompson, not a phone call. My bad. At one time I had heard the whole demon story, but I do not remember all the details exactly.

But it is a strange story...Normally a Christian confesses their sins to God, excepting the Catholic religion where the person confesses their sins to the priest. Or in a case such as Brenda's where she has publicly slandered Linda Shelton, she would publicly confess her sins against Linda and the Doctor, asking for their forgiveness and making restitution.

I remember the first time I met Brenda, she was wearing diamond earrings, a large diamond ring and was explaining why she only stayed at expensive hotels. Considering the extremely low wages that most 3ABN employees received, at best her remarks and display of wealth were in poor taste. Over the years she has exhibited a more distasteful side of her character: liar and gossip. God gives each of us the potential for being a blessing to others, but each one chooses whether to be an agent for good or for evil, to be influenced by angels or demons... It appears Brenda has made her choice.

[Murcielago]

This story begs the question. Is all that glitters gold? In the Achaean wars, Odysseus laid siege to the city of Troy, but failed in that tactic. He then built the legendary horse, filled it with his soldiers, and had the rest of his army sail away. the Trojans, thrilled with their apparent victory, brought the horse into town and while the people slept in peace, the hidden soldiers exited the horse and opened the gates of the city to the Achaean army that had returned from their fake departure. They entered the city and slaughtered its inhabitants, destroyed its temples, and killed king Priam.

Is it possible for the devil to build an organization that looks wonderful and has all the earmarks of true Adventism, something that will be welcomed and applauded, for the purpose of necrotizing the body from within? The most effective poison is not labeled "poison" but is served up in consumables that will not be suspected.

[Johann]

We often hear of our terrible enemies, those who oppose our faith or doctrines, and we consider them the agents of Satan. This is a part of his strategy to keep our eyes from the enemies from within. Satan is not wasting his energy on those who are on his side - he's got them already. He is busy getting the most select of God's own people led astray by delusions from within.

[princessdi]

Does anybody remember me suggestion, at the beginning of this mess, that you all read two books by Frank E. Peretti, "This Present Darkness" and "Piercing the Darkness"?  Murcielago, they are finctional but based the very same premise of which you speak. 

Point #2, we(SDAs) always talk about truth being mixed with error as it applies to EVERONE else, but us.   There is is a very old southern gospel song that says, "Sweep around your own front door, before you try to sweep around mine". 

Ok so does this mean that Brenda has the relationship with the Dr.?  What did they mean she got the identites mixed up and said Linda, instead of herself?  Wasn't she supposed to be confessing about her own sins?  How did Linda's name even come up?  Please tell me WT did not say that the demons were working in favor of 3ABN.  You know that in the Left Behind Series there is a part of their prophecy that state that God will "borrow" some little creatures from hell to torment the unconverted.  I wonder if it was something like that........LOL!!!!   Ooops!! Sorry, couldn't help that little chuckle.

This story begs the question. Is all that glitters gold? In the Achaean wars, Odysseus laid siege to the city of Troy, but failed in that tactic. He then built the legendary horse, filled it with his soldiers, and had the rest of his army sail away. the Trojans, thrilled with their apparent victory, brought the horse into town and while the people slept in peace, the hidden soldiers exited the horse and opened the gates of the city to the Achaean army that had returned from their fake departure. They entered the city and slaughtered its inhabitants, destroyed its temples, and killed king Priam.

Is it possible for the devil to build an organization that looks wonderful and has all the earmarks of true Adventism, something that will be welcomed and applauded, for the purpose of necrotizing the body from within? The most effective poison is not labeled "poison" but is served up in consumables that will not be suspected.

[Johann]

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Ok so does this mean that Brenda has the relationship with the Dr.?  What did they mean she got the identites mixed up and said Linda, instead of herself?  Wasn't she supposed to be confessing about her own sins?  How did Linda's name even come up?  Please tell me WT did not say that the demons were working in favor of 3ABN.  You know that in the Left Behind Series there is a part of their prophecy that state that God will "borrow" some little creatures from hell to torment the unconverted.  I wonder if it was something like that........LOL!!!!   Ooops!! Sorry, couldn't help that little chuckle.

The whole event is like a bizarre soap opera which seems so unbelievable that many people  claim this could never have happened. Isn't that what happens when kids get caught and they try to cover up with one lie after another? You just cannot imagine that adult confessing Christians could act like that too.

At first sight in Norway Brenda appeared to be the great charming personality next to the humble mouse Linda Shelton. When Brenda discovered Dr. Arild Abrahamsen brought a "date" along to church - a lady who was not a church member and a person he was trying to win for Christ - Brenda - a married woman - seemed jealous and started her flirting advances, so obviously that other church members noticed her behavior. She might have thought she was so far from home and her own husband that she could behave like that.

Again, like when kids get caught, they try to put the blame on someone else, so here it was Linda whom she blamed when the demon scared her into confessing her sins. All made up? How don't sinners often make up images to cover their sins? And how convenient when this in reality might have been a play to cover up a desperate need of a boss to get rid of his wife so he could marry someone else?

I was not there in church that evening, so how do I know? By talking to several people who were there. I have preached in that church a number of times, starting back in 1951 when Arild was only 8 years old. I was back there last Sabbath as a visitor, and it felt good to be greeted by so many wonderful friends who love the Lord. I know also so many of the aunts and uncles, parents and grandparents. What a family! Who wants a hostile intruder? My host blamed me - with a chuckle - the dinner was getting cold because it took me so long to break loose from the many old friends I had to have a word with. That is also the true spirit of church fellowship. Why permit any "smut" to destroy it?