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Re: Brenda's tales
« Reply #45 on: March 17, 2011, 04:17:19 PM »

What?!  Really?  See, you are better than me, because, I would not have called them.   There was a long discussion and a plan before that call was made.  i don't believe in enabling people. What.....They.... Never mind.........SMH.........

Have the mentioned in....at the "other" site?  I would just love to hear what they had to say.  LOL!!



If you call March 15, 2011 recently!
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Re: Brenda's tales
« Reply #46 on: March 17, 2011, 05:53:31 PM »

I would love to be a fly or a "nail" on the wall in the "compound".   :purr:
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« Reply #47 on: March 17, 2011, 07:00:04 PM »

A team structured to destroy the reputation of one woman and to protect and defend wickedness - hiding behind a proclamation of the gospel.

Excellent Summary, PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!! And what goes around, COMES AROUND!!! CAN YOU HEAR IT COMING??? Put your head to the rail and know there is a team getting ready to bring it home to roost!!! Quietly but meticulously the deal will be struck or the Racketeering claim will be arriving.

May justice be finally achieved!!!

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« Reply #48 on: March 17, 2011, 07:03:10 PM »

What?!  Really?  See, you are better than me, because, I would not have called them.   There was a long discussion and a plan before that call was made.  i don't believe in enabling people. What.....They.... Never mind.........SMH.........

Have the mentioned in....at the "other" site?  I would just love to hear what they had to say.  LOL!!



If you call March 15, 2011 recently!

Have you sensed that boldness is building? They need a day of feasting and prayer, a call to revival and reformation!!!


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« Reply #49 on: March 17, 2011, 07:14:39 PM »

I would love to be a fly or a "nail" on the wall in the "compound".   :purr:

Way too risky, Grat...they are likely acheiving a state of anguish that is now at MELT-DOWN stage and UNPREDICTABLE!!!

When one ignores the very knocking at the door that you purportedly preach; and abandon sound principals in exchange for demonic conduct in support of an admitted pedophile; Be certain that the Lords Blessing and Protection is most certainly compromised; one must quake in fear knowing that the locomorive is moving straight at you and there is little you can do, but pursue revival and reformation filled liberally with public confession and repentance  Otherwise, you will soon REAP THE WHIRLWIND of OPEN AND NOTORIOUS SIN.

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Re: Brenda's tales
« Reply #50 on: March 17, 2011, 07:52:43 PM »

Gailon,

There is another possible scenario. It's found in Josephus' history of the destruction of Jerusalem, as well as the first chapter of The Great Controversy. The Jewish rebels in 66 to 70 AD were certain that God was on their side, and would never allow the Romans to conquer them, even as those same rebels slaughtered each other mercilessly, stole, deceived, and broke the Sabbath.

So they may have a lot of fear right now, but then again they might not have any more fear than the Jewish rebels did during the Jewish Revolt of 66 to 70 AD.
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Re: Brenda's tales
« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2011, 01:11:55 PM »

Shortly after this post reached Linda it disappeared from her computer....

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Johann,
You do realize that "this post" is on your [not]AT server, right? You do realize that it can't "disappear" from her computer - because all she's doing is reading, right?
But thank you for proving Linda is an outright liar. If as she claims she does not interest herself in any of this, why is she getting any of "this post"???
In fact, as someone over on your slime site said, "to let it go" but now it seems, with Linda getting "this post", it looks like she can't let it go.

Also, tell Linda's "expert" that he's all hot air, oops, I mean Bob Pickle - the man who knows a lot about nothing.

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Shortly after this post reached Linda it disappeared from her computer. She asked an expert to look for it but he could not find it either. He indicated some hacker with the aid of a cell phone could have deleted it. This is far from the first time such things happen on her computer. Soon the experts might be able to trace the hackers. The question remains, who could be interested in having such posts deleted?

Quoted reply from Cynthia:
The other part of his post on AT was an excuse for why he couldn't provide documentation to support his foul accusations as we asked for. As usual that excuse is all about making more unsupported accusations to justify the first unsupported accusations. I can not recall one time that the man has ever provided evidence or proof when asked.

His new tale is this:

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Similar things have happened to me on a number of occasions during the past 7 years. A regular virus could do a lot of damage, but such a virus would hardly be selecting and deleting only posts that have to do with Danny Shelton.

When I started posting at the "other" site they jumped at me to prove certain things from the writings of Danny Shelton or his henchmen. Why?

I told them I would not search there now. I'll tell you the reason. I do not want anybody to know if Danny has succeeded in deleting all of those for him important documents. Or if I still have them stored safely, I do not want to give a hacker some key words he could use to search for them on my computer. I do not care if they ban me for it, but they are not going to trick me into complying now. That can be taken care of in a court case.

1. Admin hat on -- I explained several times in several different ways to  Johann Thorvaldsson via posts and pms that he would not be able to repeat his accusations here unless he was willing to provide documentation and evidence when he was asked for it, the very first time he arrogantly declared he wouldn't go searching for any emails.  After all of that he now again posts: "I told them I would not.."  He is not banned, but he can't just declare he won't be complying" with the rules here, and then keep posting about this and repeating himself, so he is not going to post in this topic further without first providing the evidence he was asked for. -- Admin hat off

2. Giving him the benefit of the doubt that he meant"email" or "emails" every time he said "post" or"posts"? I still don't believe him, not one single bit.  Not only do I know that hacking into his computer or Linda's is not something that DS or 3ABN would ever do, but it makes no more sense than when Fran claimed that they were doing this to her. In fact it's downright stupid and illogical, not to mention FALSE.

Johann looks silly claiming, this post was deleted by a hacker ( meaning DS or someone employed by him) from Linda's computer. What would be the point in Ds doing so? First of all, that letter is evidence of nothing! That letter contains nothing that  DS or 3ABN would even be concerned about. I'm certainly not concerned about it.  Johann just likes to post fan mail addressed to Linda, and say "look people love and support her." I don't have a problem with that, although I do think it weird, and think it more likely it is Linda saying "look people love and support me", as these letters he quotes are all allegedly sent to her but keep ending up on the internet...

 Even if DS was an unscrupulous hacker, or had some one doing that on his behalf, what would be the point of removing something from one computer when it is still on other's computers and web pages, and in court files etc?

These folks have shared between themselves, and published any and every  private correspondence or document, or out of context snippet, or quote they could use against DS or 3ABN or anyone related to them all over the internet and in every court filing they made and in between themselves FOR YEARS now.

That email was obviously  forwarded to Johann, and who knows how many other peoples computers, as Johann obviously quoted it in his post, after he said it was removed from Linda's computer. So it's not gone. It wasn't really removed even if she did lose it somehow.

 If anyone had hacked her email to remove "evidence" they could also obviously see that same email had been forwarded and understand that no purpose would be served by  removing it from Linda's computer only. Same thing with Fran and her "public IRS documents", "public Ebay info and files, what would be the purpose in DS removing them from her computer only? She got her so called evidence from publicly available information on websites which is still publicly available to all.  Her faulty conclusions about that were sent to Pickle/Joy,  and a bunch of other people and even posted online and copied from forum to forum by she and those others she sent it to or posted it too. In additions she sent it all to the IRS, who then exonerated DS and 3ABN... The point being that their so called "evidence" wasn't really removed, even if someone was hacking Fran's computer, and no purpose would be served for doing so even if anyone cared to as it was already all over the place.

So, anyway after 7 years of Johann sharing all his private emails which he thinks are evidence against 3abn and DS with others, (and either he or them publishing them all over the internet in forums and court filings and websites) he suddenly when asked to provide the evidence for his false tale acts as if he has the only copy of letters which are damaging to DS. Reallly? he has never published, posted,  or shared them with anyone? Letters which he has all along been claiming exist and are how he knew DS was a liar and caused him to stop defending Danny Shelton? Well how out of character is that?!? NOT.

Then his excuse for not producing the evidence he claims to have is because he's afraid if he posts them a hacker (DS) will search his computer for the letters and remove them, or has already done so?

As I said, That's ignorant. Anyone falling for that excuse would have to be equally ignorant

Real people who aren't intent on offering lame excuses for lying know they can save things on their computers to a jumpdrive, a CD or other storage device. They know they can print emails with the headers included. They know they can forward emails to others with the headers to validate their authenticity. They know if they post it --and the email is removed from their computer or lost or accidentally deleted, that the post along with all the previous mentioned ways to record and save it, still exist.

No liar is going to heaven, nor are folks who love lies.  Johann is a pastor, he knows that and needs to be accountable for the things he claims."

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Re: Brenda's tales
« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2011, 02:06:03 PM »


1. Admin hat on -- I explained several times in several different ways to  Johann Thorvaldsson via posts and pms that he would not be able to repeat his accusations here unless he was willing to provide documentation and evidence when he was asked for it, the very first time he arrogantly declared he wouldn't go searching for any emails.  After all of that he now again posts: "I told them I would not.."  He is not banned, but he can't just declare he won't be complying" with the rules here, and then keep posting about this and repeating himself, so he is not going to post in this topic further without first providing the evidence he was asked for. -- Admin hat off



 :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:


Oh yes!   Screaming laughing!!  Cindy is demanding evidence!!!   RICH!!

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« Reply #53 on: March 18, 2011, 02:33:37 PM »

I thought sir mizer might bring this over here since I am no longer posting over there, and I am prepared to answer, if needed, but it will be - later - after you have verified your claim that Brenda was telling the truth when she started this whole mess. Lets get back to basics - how this whole mess started.
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« Reply #54 on: March 18, 2011, 02:42:25 PM »


 :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:


Oh yes!   Screaming laughing!!  Cindy is demanding evidence!!!   RICH!!



We have to prepare a great celebration on the first occasion Cindy provides evidence for her claims!
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« Reply #55 on: March 18, 2011, 02:59:20 PM »

I thought sir mizer might bring this over here since I am no longer posting over there, and I am prepared to answer, if needed, but it will be - later - after you have verified your claim that Brenda was telling the truth when she started this whole mess. Lets get back to basics - how this whole mess started.


Uh... That is a new question, and one I can't answer. I have no such claims to verify.  I didn't make any claims about Brenda Walsh. I have never even met her, or communicated with her in any way... I personally have never even seen any poster defending 3ABN claiming Brenda has said anything one way or another. No one posting on the forums that I recall has ever claimed to have spoken to her, or to have been quoting her, nor said anything about anything she has allegedly said or not said in regards to truth or lies.

All I have seen published and on forums, websites and court documents is the claims from you, Pickle and Joy about what Brenda Walsh allegedly said, and your claims about what Danny said she said, and the venom and accusations you all made against her in response to your own words about that. So you all got quoted a couple of days back, and then you personally went ballistic and started threatening lawsuits on behalf of Linda Shelton and her Doctor based on your own side's alleged evidence. That's you, and that's your problem...

As you said get back to basics. Good idea. Let me remind you, that this all started with a question to you in reply to your posts and apparently you are now claiming you can answer...

So either do it, or stop wasting others time.

Whether you come clean or not, or instead return with more unsubstantiated claims and accusations, I need to finish preparing for the Sabbath. Later, gator.

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« Reply #56 on: March 18, 2011, 03:17:21 PM »

Finally you are admitting that you really don't know a thing about what you are dealing with. That admission explains a lot. Thank you!

This whole thing started with Brenda's tales - and a demon that troubled her one night. Beware of that demon, and rather worship our Creator  through Jesus Christ. The demon needs to be eradicated. It is the demon we are fighting against - and praying it will not destroy 3ABN fully. For the safety of your own soul, Cindy, come clear of the influence of the demon who appeared to Brenda and has done so much to destroy 3ABN.

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« Reply #57 on: March 18, 2011, 05:30:41 PM »

No one posting on the forums that I recall has ever claimed to have spoken to her, or to have been quoting her, nor said anything about anything she has allegedly said or not said in regards to truth or lies.

All I have seen published and on forums, websites and court documents is the claims from you, Pickle and Joy about what Brenda Walsh allegedly said, and your claims about what Danny said she said, and the venom and accusations you all made against her in response to your own words about that.

So, no one posting on the forums has quoted Brenda Walsh, but there has been plenty posted on the forums quoting Brenda Walsh.  :scratch:
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« Reply #58 on: March 18, 2011, 06:03:54 PM »

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I personally have never even seen any poster defending 3ABN claiming Brenda has said anything one way or another. No one posting on the forums that I recall has ever claimed to have spoken to her, or to have been quoting her, nor said anything about anything she has allegedly said or not said in regards to truth or lies.

All I have seen published and on forums, websites and court documents is the claims from you, Pickle and Joy about what Brenda Walsh allegedly said, and your claims about what Danny said she said, and the venom and accusations you all made against her in response to your own words about that. So you all got quoted a couple of days back, and then you personally went ballistic and started threatening lawsuits on behalf of Linda Shelton and her Doctor based on your own side's alleged evidence. That's you, and that's your problem...
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You have read nothing . . . and here you are admitting it, Cindy. That is a good start. This has been posted and available all the time to anyone reading without the blinds of bias on their eyes.

What you call accusations is merely a verification of the truth.
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« Reply #59 on: March 18, 2011, 06:11:48 PM »

Here is the real truth of what happened and how Brenda changed it to please Danny. This is the truth, and nothing but the truth.

I have posted this on the other site:

Linda Shelton and Dr. Arild Abrahamsen can thank Cindy Conard for providing a site where this notarized account by Brenda Welsh on Cindy's website could be posted. This posting makes the seven year old tale still current. Dr. Abrahamsen and Linda are now getting a top notch go-getter of a lawyer to aid them in suing Brenda for all the miseries Brenda has caused them during these seven years by her fraudulent tales.

Other witnesses also noticed how Brenda made a number of improper and flirting advances at Dr. Abrahamsen during their stay in Norway, later projecting her own behavior on Linda. Perhaps Brenda felt she was far enough from home to behave like that and get away with it. Besides that she had been separated from her own husband for several months at some time prior to this.

Dr. Abrahamsen reports how he had to lock his own bedroom door to keep Brenda out of there. Brenda still tried to wake the Doctor up so she could get access to his bedroom.  Although Dr. Abrahamsen did not respond to Brenda's advances he was fully awake and knew what was going on. Later Brenda adjusted the tales of her own behavior as if Linda had been in his bedroom.

When Brenda discovered she could not have her way with Dr. Abrahamsen she seemed disappointed and therefore tried to give Linda the fault.

Seems like Brenda's thwarted account was just what Danny Shelton needed to get rid of Linda.

If Brenda wants to make up before she gets a notification from a lawyer she had better hurry up. That may save her a lot of difficulties that she had never envisioned. But Brenda does not need to make any contact unless she is willing to confess and also try to convince Cindy and others that their accusations have been based on false premises as far as she is concerned.

Justice may take time, but a day of reckoning comes to all of us. Brenda better take care of this before her final destiny is decided! If nothing else helps, Linda Shelton and Dr. Arild Abrahamsen are prepared to let the best lawyer available help her make that decision in front of a judge and/or jury, if that is the only way she will make things right.

And thank you for posting that notarized account of Brenda's tales. It is too late to delete it now.
It appears like you people have access to Brenda, so I make you responsible for getting this message to her immediately.

Johann Thorvaldsson

I did send this to Brenda as well.
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