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[scratsmom]

Having observed this whole mess first on BSDA and now here for a very long time, and having heard over and over of upcoming and impending and without-a-doubt-can't-help-but-take-place actions that will bring justice, please forgive me if I have a hard time believing it will ever happen. I would like to see it, but nothing I have seen thus far gives me much confidence. There is always a reason, it seems, that it doesn't end up taking place, or is done in secret, or is narrowly averted, or just-hasn't-happened-yet-but-for-sure-will-very-very-soon. And if it is this frustrating to me, I can't imagine how frustrating it is to the individuals involved.
Still watching...
scratsmom

[childoftheking]

I also am tired of waiting. But to get back to the statement by Ida Smith I believe I have found it as exhibit H attached to docket text# 100:
http://www.3abnvjoy.com/mad-07cv40098/mad-07cv40098-doc-100-9.pdf

Corrected a typo. Corrected has to have.

[Bob Pickle]

You can add me to the list of those that are weary of waiting.

Childoftheking, you beat me to it. It is http://www.3abnvjoy.com/mad-07cv40098/mad-07cv40098-doc-100-9.pdf. The recording adds the abortion comment to the part where Linda thought she was pregnant some years before.

Is it normal for men to talk to other women about their vasectomies, as Brenda claimed Danny did?

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

Anything worth acheiving is worth waiting for...did we really think it was going to be a walk in the park? You are up against demons and principalities, liars and perverts and it is ironic that it will be the gentiles that will likely utilize all that documentation to meet the issues head on while we are still in appeal.

I deeply regret that this is the path that 3ABN has chosen and note it would have been much better to have dealth with these issues in the winter of 2006-2007 with ASI, but, Danny wanted a war and he got it...then dismissed as it became clear he was going to loose the war...we appealed and pursued and surprisingly the battle will be taken from us and given to the gentiles to MOP UP. C'est la vie!!!

Brenda is another issue and must be dealt with, but the avenue for that process is not yet clear.

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter

[Bob Pickle]

It appears to me that part of the blame for the dealing with it in the winter of 2006 and 2007 must fall at the feet of Harold Lance, who adamantly refused to permit it to be dealt with, despite our pleas.

And then he had the nerve to block my ASI membership application, as if one cannot be a member of ASI if one complains about the cover up of child molestation.

If Harold Lance has not yet changed his position on the relationship of child molestation to ASI membership, he ought to be impeached.

In reality, any individual or ministry that takes a stand against vile iniquity should be welcomed into ASI with open arms.

[GRAT]

You can add me to the list of those that are weary of waiting.


Is it normal for men to talk to other women about their vasectomies, as Brenda claimed Danny did?

Only if he want to get into her panties. 

[Nosir Myzing]

Yes, Shame on you Pastor Johann, for standing up for what is right!!! And Cindy Conard shame on you for having your head in the stand or stuck up Danny's re.......ER. please where the sun don't shine!!!!

Only if he want to get into her panties. 

Crude,         Rude,         Uncouth,         Vulgar,         Un-Necessary     
                                                                     

[Johann]

Here is the result of a primary investigation of the possibility in a case against Brenda:

Remember, that this is a civil adversarial litigation and the jury will be instructed that they must decide the issues based upon the propensity of the evidence. In other words, the jury must weigh all the evidence "allowed" to be introduced to the jury, which will be a combination of documents and testimony, to determine if the defendant engaged in  bad acts or bad behavior and is consequently likely to have been guilty of the alleged torts at bar in the plaintiff's complaint. And they must only find that there is a greater than 50% chance that evidence points in that direction.

When you consider that this case has SEVERAL WITNESSES relating to the behaviour, prior to and following the visit to Norway, . . .Brenda engaged in a pattern that suggested she was in fact the "interested" party" and there is overwhelming evidence that she engaged in defamation in a combination of settings, including at seminars and by telephone. . . IF THE ALLEGATIONS HAD ANY BASIS IN FACT, she can be held liable for disseminating them with the clear intent to defame and destroy the reputations of the parties. SHE IS NOT A REPORTER!!!
She is a defamer for personal gain and a jury is likely to disgorge those benefits and find her punishable (punitive damages) for such outrageous conduct. Add the clear actions of the directors since then and the jury would see a well organized effort by a racketeering organization to defame and destroy and would potentially hold them accountable as well!!! . . .

[Johann]

    

-------- Original Message --------
    Subject: From the first time I heard you speak I have known you are
    with Christ.
    From: "Sharon - - -" <sharon- - -@- - -.com>
    Date: Wed, March 09, 2011 5:03 am
    To: <linda@lindashelton.org>

    One day I was feeling so sad and missing my granddaughter so much. After my daughter divorced her husband who is now married to another man our trials began. There were so many court battles that it was hard for her to keep a job. Finally when my granddaughter was around 13 he petitioned the court to move from A. . . to L. . . He was required to fly S. . . to visit her mother every other weekend. It never happened even once and nothing was ever done about it. I cried and prayed and felt hopeless and forsaken. We lost all contact with S. . . until she was 18. In the fall of 2010 I got a call from S . . . and she was finally free from her father. We all gathered in P. . . and had a wonderful six months together. She decided to go back to C. . . and attend college there. She calls or emails almost everyday and she is so much fun. She is an excellent student and does not smoke,drink,or do drugs. Her father does all vices imaginable. Heavenly Father kept her safe and she was not forsaken at all. Her life still has lots of promise. She had so much fun meeting her five little nieces and redheaded nephew. She has so much love filling her life now.

    When I heard the mess about you and Danny I did not believe you had transgressed. I even got a letter from the station about you gee whiz. Even if you had transgressed what happened to mercy and forgiveness? Would it not have been a greater testimony to have the healing unfold on the show? I am sure most people questioned the motives behind just trying to erase you. Then when I read that the show is about the Gospel and not about one woman my mind went click. If I was so touched by you on the air so were many others. You became to important to too many and evil wanted you stopped. I feel sad for those who were used and manipulated by evil to cause you such pain and suffering. I pray for you to be strong and know that you touched the hearts of so many who have no power but to pray for you. We are many and we love you and wish you well. You gave so many a light in the darkness and we send out a light for you now. You helped us to see Christ in the smallest things and to embrace our blessings. You are loved and blessed.

    Sharon

[Johann]

from   Johann Thorvaldsson <reinarjoi@gmail.com>
to   brenda@brendawalsh.com
date   Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:04 PM
subject   Jesus loves you
mailed-by   gmail.com
   
hide details 9:04 PM (33 minutes ago)
   
Dear Brenda,

Yes, Jesus loves you very much. He must be coming back very soon. Just think of the earthquake in Japan - and Jesus said there would be such earthquakes as a sign He is coming soon. A different earth calamity might strike where we live any day.

It is time to get our things in order with God and people now. I know it will make you feel much better towards all of those lovely children you have in your programs when you can see them straight in their eyes when you tell them they should be honest.

If there is anything I can do to help you make up with Linda and Dr. Arild Abrahamsen for the deceptive reports of your visit to Norway, then just let me know. I will be there for you. Wouldn't that be better than facing a jury in court?

With Christian love,

Johann

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

ASI, is that Adventists Selected International?

It appears to me that part of the blame for the dealing with it in the winter of 2006 and 2007 must fall at the feet of Harold Lance, who adamantly refused to permit it to be dealt with, despite our pleas.

And then he had the nerve to block my ASI membership application, as if one cannot be a member of ASI if one complains about the cover up of child molestation.

If Harold Lance has not yet changed his position on the relationship of child molestation to ASI membership, he ought to be impeached.

In reality, any individual or ministry that takes a stand against vile iniquity should be welcomed into ASI with open arms.

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

But to the point, isn't it?

Yes, Shame on you Pastor Johann, for standing up for what is right!!! And Cindy Conard shame on you for having your head in the stand or stuck up Danny's re.......ER. please where the sun don't shine!!!!

Only if he want to get into her panties. 

Crude,         Rude,         Uncouth,         Vulgar,         Un-Necessary     
                                                                     

[Mary Sue Smith]

Johann, that is not right or fair.  Please take off Brenda's email address. You didn't make your email address public, then have the decency to do the same for Brenda at the least.   

GRAT--Your post was not becoming of a Christian.   What would your Pastor and Church think reading that from you?

[Johann]

Johann, that is not right or fair.  Please take off Brenda's email address. You didn't make your email address public, then have the decency to do the same for Brenda at the least.  

Brenda's email address is available for all to see on her own webpage.

All you need is to click on the envelope here to the left and your post will reach me. And my own email address is also posted with the letter below, free for anyone to use.

[Johann]

Yes, Shame on you Pastor Johann, for standing up for what is right!!! And Cindy Conard shame on you for having your head in the stand or stuck up Danny's re.......ER. please where the sun don't shine!!!!

Only if he want to get into her panties. 

Crude,         Rude,         Uncouth,         Vulgar,         Un-Necessary     
                                                                     

How about you repeating this to remind us of Brenda's tale?