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Johann

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NEW LIES
« on: March 02, 2011, 03:24:33 PM »

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Johann the liar

Postby steffan » Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:42 pm UTC
When he says on [not]at

    I asked a local pastor what he had seen



This statement proves his lies out of his own mouth.

At first, he claimed that Linda came to Norway and he spent all his time with her and the doctor, so there was no way anything could have happened. Now, he has said he "asked" a local pastor. Where was he? Not anywhere near Linda and the doctor, because they didn't want him anywhere near.

What shall I say? That Steffan seems to have as much trouble with time chronology as the now retired surgeon Walt Thompson? And that causes them to blunder along in so much of their defense?

1. Yes, I claimed that Linda and Brenda came to Norway while her son, Nathan, was there. At that time I was living in Denmark, but I came to Norway for a short visit while they were there. Linda and Brenda were singing at a meeting in church during their visit, but not while I was there. After the demon appeared to Brenda and she started telling stories, Danny related one of those stories of what Linda had done while in church that was improper. He sent it to me in an e-mail. A couple of weeks after that we moved to Norway and so we were in Norway when I questioned my friends who had been at the meeting what had happened. That was how I discovered what Danny told me was a lie.

2. I never said I had spent all the time there with Linda. That is a lie.

3. You claiming that Linda and the doctor were alone together in Norway at that time is another bold lie!

4. What I have said is that my first wife, Irmgard, and I, spent all the time during the spring of 2004 with Dr. Arild Abrahamsen that a certain Danny Shelton claimed in his writings to me that Linda was together with the Doctor in Florida. When I refused to verify his claims and thereby doubting his universal knowledge of everything he got so angry that he had Walt Thompson fire me.

5. You make the statement that Linda and the doctor do not want me anywhere around? I have seen some of Danny's friends make that claim. Is that how you prove/document things?

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And now, from Linda's own mouth, comes confirmation about what she denied all along - she has now, according to her own website, moved to Norway, close to a "dear" friend. Obviously not Johann.

steffan 

Quite an interesting statement from the pen of Steffan who claims to be telling the truth. One wonders who taught Steffan to measure what is the truth and what is a lie. I wonder  how he would measure if I made the following statement: "Columbus never came to North America because I never saw him when I was there."?

This seems to be Steffan's way of reasoning, and then he tries to get others to accept his way of thinking. It seem like he is trying to convince us  that because Linda states she is in Norway in 2011 then she must have been there also in the past when she said she did not live there.

Who is telling the truth? Christopher  Columbus sailed the long way from Europe to America and back on sailboats.

Will someone please inform Steffan that this is not the only way of travel today. Today we had a couple of visitors from Canada at our home here in Iceland who will be flying back within a few days, first to Seattle where they arrive on the same day. A good friend of mine is flying from Seattle to visit us in less than three weeks. He also visited us last year. All of these still live in North America.



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Re: NEW LIES
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2011, 07:54:28 PM »

I am under the belief that the use of the ST-F-N name is a sacrilege worthy of excommunication and I can certainly see why these malcontents  of Anti-Christianity are best left in their self-made nest with the rest of the demons, vipers and the scorpions of 3ABNism.

It will be a very hot day on the other end of the millennium when the blinders will be peeled back and the truth will be emblazened into their minds, they will have to confess and...burn, baby, burn!!!

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Johann

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Re: NEW LIES
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2011, 10:04:50 AM »

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Re: BOLD LIARS!!

Postby Cynthia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:33 pm UTC
Obviously not as Johann lives in Norway, and his claimed "eye witness accounts" have almost always been from afar and hear say...

None of these people know what they are talking about. They keep publishing their lies and claim that is the truth. What is the right term for that? What gives you the illusion I live in Norway now? I have been to more than 30 different countries. Are you sure all of them are "afar"?
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Re: NEW LIES
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2011, 02:49:41 PM »

If they want you to be living in Norway now, then to them you live in Norway.
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Re: NEW LIES
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2011, 03:00:55 PM »

I have always wondered why people who came waaaaaay after the fact are always questioning the account of an eyewitness.  I could never make sense of that one.
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2011, 07:02:59 PM »

I have always wondered why people who came waaaaaay after the fact are always questioning the account of an eyewitness.  I could never make sense of that one.

Whenever I peek at that other site i have a hard time finding anything that makes sense, and yet they seem to be so sure they are just right.
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Re: NEW LIES
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 10:50:21 PM »

Simpleist description of the den of vipers is UN-just and UN-righteous!!!

Think our Sir Mizer comes from thence? Of course one would have to ask what day and what thread, right?

Every which way but right, whomever it or they are.

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Johann

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Re: NEW LIES
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2011, 01:59:15 AM »

What can you expect of people who live in the atmosphere of presumptions based on false facts?
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Re: NEW LIES
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2011, 06:27:45 PM »

And of course on one hand they demand multiple witness, multiple signed documents, notarized etc... ad nauseum but.....

They make statements that have not been witnessed by even one person or even documented by anyone other than the liars from 3ABN commune... er... compound.

just my own opinion by observation.

I have not had one iota of information sent from 3ABN that was true. I don't even believe in Danny's  so called dream. He was just a good con artist that also was a good story teller.
I don't care if he is a narcisstic sycopath. He can't scare others who know the truth.
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2011, 09:28:47 AM »

Ezekiel 3:17
      Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.

Ezekiel 18:26
      When righteous people turn from their righteous behavior and start doing sinful things, they will die for it. Yes, they will die because of their sinful deeds.

Just now appears another first person witness of how Mrs. Quinn - fresh from editing a book by her Master deceiver on how to place the Ten Commandments - went around the 3ABN commune with another person picking up tidbits they could use for fuel roasting Linda and getting her out of the way. Seems like it could well be an act of envy to get Linda's time on the TV screen.

This poisoning mix of lethal lies seems to be a source of Cindy and Co's documental cocktails they have been spewing out both on BSDA, here, and at their own den of vipers.

1 John 1:9
      If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
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Re: NEW LIES
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2011, 04:57:25 PM »

It is funny you bring up the dream...given the history, shall we say we have no choice but to question the veracity of any dream that would be had by such a glaring hypocrite...I can say with certainty that based upon the requirements for "messengers of the Lord" set forth in the Bible and as exampled by the selection of three known humans visited and given a message to get to the REAL messenger, Ellen G. White, one must conclude that Danny Lee shelton was, and is, a fraud. 

As to those who believe he is "the annointed one", as I said, PT Barnum summed it up: there is a sucker born every minute.

Given James Gilley's personal history, going back all the way to Southern New England and going forward, there are glaring
discrepancies that certainly must bring one to question his committment to "counteracting the counterfeit". As conference
President he is known to have hired known adulterers as pastors. As President of 3ABN he has ignored the evidence and
continues to cling to the notion that Danny Lee Shelton is the face of 3ABN and has continued to allow him to utilize it's
facilities to perpetual his personal goals.

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And of course on one hand they demand multiple witness, multiple signed documents, notarized etc... ad nauseum but.....

They make statements that have not been witnessed by even one person or even documented by anyone other than the liars from 3ABN commune... er... compound.

just my own opinion by observation.

I have not had one iota of information sent from 3ABN that was true. I don't even believe in Danny's  so called dream. He was just a good con artist that also was a good story teller.
I don't care if he is a narcisstic sycopath. He can't scare others who know the truth.
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2011, 01:43:10 AM »

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"As a faithful witness for God, he spoke out against a couple who had entered into a sinful relationship. Now the woman entangled in this situation became offended. She was embittered, and she felt scorned. And you know, there's something about her, that she was unconcerned about her relationship in the eyes of the Lord. Her worry revolved more around the possibility of losing her prominent position. So what did she do? She devised a plan to eliminate this one who had exposed her, and she enlisted the help of her young daughter. Now prompted by her mother, this daughter became entangled in the web of deceit, and she set out to set her mother's position and save it by destroying this man of God. What we see here is that the scheme was to go forward and go straight for the throat and have his head served up on a platter. Does this story sound familiar to you? To whom am I referring? John the Baptist, of course. ..."

"Now her mother is using her as a pawn. ..."

"Now how could such a holy, Spirit-filled man, who was hand-picked by God, and called to such an important ministry, fall victim to such vile persecution? Why would God allow it?"

(Shelley Quinn on 3ABN Today Live, 2nd hour, replayed at 4pm CDT, Sunday, August 13, 2006)

Who has been exposed to a vile persecution? Linda?
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Re: NEW LIES
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2011, 03:38:07 AM »

I have always wondered why people who came waaaaaay after the fact are always questioning the account of an eyewitness.  I could never make sense of that one.

Interesting... That was my thoughts when I first read all on BSDA. Why are all these people on BSDA, like princessdi, and this Gailon Joy, and Bob Pickle person who came waaaaaay after the fact, and have nothing to go on but the perspective of anonymous posters like *********************************** questioning all the actual eyewitnesses at 3abn and the thompsonville SDA church, calling them all  liars and refusing to listen to them? For example I remember when Kay Kuzma, and Dr Thompson, Brenda Walsh, Danny Shelton, Pastor Lomaccang, and a host of others who were first person witnesses --and only spoke up after they were all publically vilified and falsely accused by Linda's group, to attempt to correct the false reports and lies -- pointed out that Johann wasn't even there when the things they recounted occurred, and that he, like Gregory Matthews and the other accusers were just going by what Linda Shelton had told them, yet you to this day believe his accounts and tales without question, and continue to question and insult the actual eyewitnesses and believe them liars... as do others like guide4him...

Sad...


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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2011, 03:42:21 AM »

It is clear that Shelley Quinn, a consummate politician, had a vested interest in her affiliation with 3ABN and Danny Lee Shelton.

I have always wondered if Shelly ever received her share of the royalties for Ten Commandments Twice Removed, and if she was included in the cute little arrangement with Dwight Hall?

And when will Shelley Quinn speak out against Danny Lee Shelton? When will she call DLS to confess, repent and reform?

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Re: NEW LIES
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2011, 03:47:20 AM »

It is clear that Shelley Quinn, a consummate politician, had a vested interest in her affiliation with 3ABN and Danny Lee Shelton.

I have always wondered if Shelly ever received her share of the royalties for Ten Commandments Twice Removed, and if she was included in the cute little arrangement with Dwight Hall?

And when will Shelley Quinn speak out against Danny Lee Shelton? When will she call DLS to confess, repent and reform?

Gailon Arthur Joy, AUReporter

All who know Shelly Quinn know she doesn't gossip or speak evil of any one, yet does speak out about right and wrong in a kind and Christian way. You obviously don't know her and your accusations and insinuations are false and you have no proof and so are unjustified and that's all I have to say about that because you will have to answer to the Almighty about that and be accountable one day soon.
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