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[Bob Pickle]

Breaking News

The word I just got was that the judge rejected Tommy's plea deal. Tommy then withdrew it, and trial is scheduled for January.

Danny and Tammy weren't there this time, I'm told. Just Carol.

The judge, I'm told, had Tommy take the stand and gave him an opportunity to show remorse. If he would show remorse, the judge would accept the plea. But, apparently, Tommy did not show remorse. My source felt his comments were inappropriate, but I don't have specifics.

Channel 9 is about to tape an interview. Expect WUSA Channel 9 and the Washington Post to both carry the story.

Too bad Danny wasn't there. He could have given some comments to WUSA9 and the Washington Post.

[Artiste]

What person is the interview with on Channel 9?

[Bob Pickle]

I don't know the details of who spoke with whom.

Tom Jackman's article at the Washington Post is at:

"Alleged molester's plea deal rejected."

It quotes one of the victims.

[ex3abnemployee]

Any scrap of respect I could have still had for Tommy is now gone. I was holding out hope that he was finally going to man up and face his sin. I can now see he is only interested in saving his own rear. How sick and selfish.

[princessdi]

Now, this link is acting up, but I was able to see a little of the article.  That portion said that the judge rejected the please, because it contained no jail time.  So Tommy is going to jail, don't know for how long, but he is going.  The fact that he is not in jail now means, he cannot get the option of "time served" either.  This must be a severe blow to them, people have to realize that repentance and God's forgiveness does NOT mean that you are spared the consequences of your actions.  Very sad.  I will keep everyone involved liften up in prayer.

[ex3abnemployee]

Actually, it means we are back to square one. I understand the trial will begin in January.

In closing, I'd just like to say that I know Glenn Dryden snoops around on this forum, so I'd just like to say something publicly. Mr. Dryden, I hope all the hell you have stirred up for myself and numerous other people makes you feel as if you've finally accomplished something in your miserable excuse for a life. I also hope everyone remembers how you tucked tail and hid behind a closed door like a coward when a reporter asked you why you neglected your responsibility to contact law enforcement. You stirred this up, now you're going to reap the consequences of not minding your own business. I, personally, am going to see to that.

[GRAT]

The article sounded like there could be another plea deal made.  Is that correct or will there really be a trial this time?  So now in the eyes of the law Tommy is no longer an admitted sex offender? 

[Snoopy]

Now, this link is acting up, but I was able to see a little of the article.  That portion said that the judge rejected the please, because it contained no jail time.  So Tommy is going to jail, don't know for how long, but he is going.  The fact that he is not in jail now means, he cannot get the option of "time served" either.  This must be a severe blow to them, people have to realize that repentance and God's forgiveness does NOT mean that you are spared the consequences of your actions.  Very sad.  I will keep everyone involved liften up in prayer.

OK - WHERE did you read that Tommy is going to jail??  Did you not see that the whole case is going to TRIAL??  That means it will be UP TO A JURY whether he goes to jail OR NOT.  Please make sure you have your facts straight before blurting out something that we simply do not have an answer to yet.

[princessdi]

Well, the way I figure it, is the article said the plea was rejected because it included no jail time.  Meaning the judge is at least hoping, and according to the evidence he is looking at so far, on the fact that TS will get jail time if he goes to trial.  That is the way I figure it.  I might be wrong.  I compleetely understand about it being up to a jury, but I also know the way these types of cases are going these days, and these men are being sent to jail, advanced age or not. People are really fed up with all this.  There are just too many of these cases out there right now, and TS offenses are not as old as some of the prior or current cases.

I also believe that the judge has some rrom to rule if the jury's decision is not appropriate(Can someone help me with that one?).  Obviously, the judge believes that jail, make that prison time, is appropriate in this case.

Some of you might have heard about the man who went to the Jesuit retirement home, attacked, and beat his abuser.  The man got no jail time, the RCC pay the family something close to $625,000(I came back to correct this. I dont' want o be yelled at again.......Hehehehe!) for the molestation of their sons by this man.  BTW, the man was also molesting girls and boys, including family members.  But this man ws there sitting in cmfortable retirement after no jail time.  That did not sit to well with this one victim.  Also, be sure and read the comments.  One is from one of the nieces this man abused.  You will find the link to the story below(I hope it works):

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/south_bay&id=7785491

OK - WHERE did you read that Tommy is going to jail??  Did you not see that the whole case is going to TRIAL??  That means it will be UP TO A JURY whether he goes to jail OR NOT.  Please make sure you have your facts straight before blurting out something that we simply do not have an answer to yet.

[Snoopy]

ADMIN HAT ON

Notwithstanding the way you figure it, I am very uncomfortable using this forum to play jury and convict someone before their due process.  If you feel compelled to act as jury in this case, please do it elsewhere...I can think of another site...

ADMIN HAT OFF

Well, the way I figure it, is the article said the plea was rejected because it included no jail time.  Meaning the judge is at least hoping, and according to the evidence he is looking at so far, on the fact that TS will get jail time if he goes to trial.  That is the way I figure it.  I might be wrong.  I compleetely understand about it being up to a jury, but I also know the way these types of cases are going these days, and these men are being sent to jail, advanced age or not. People are really fed up with all this.  There are just too many of these cases out there right now, and TS offenses are not as old as some of the prior or current cases.

I also believe that the judge has some rrom to rule if the jury's decision is not appropriate(Can someone help me with that one?).  Obviously, the judge believes that jail, make that prison time, is appropriate in this case.

Some of you might have heard about the man who went to the Jesuit retirement home, attacked, and beat his abuser.  The man got no jail time, the RCC pay the family something close to $625,000(I came back to correct this. I dont' want o be yelled at again.......Hehehehe!) for the molestation of their sons by this man.  BTW, the man was also molesting girls and boys, including family members.  But this man ws there sitting in cmfortable retirement after no jail time.  That did not sit to well with this one victim.  You will find the link to the story below(I hope it works):

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/south_bay&id=7785491

OK - WHERE did you read that Tommy is going to jail??  Did you not see that the whole case is going to TRIAL??  That means it will be UP TO A JURY whether he goes to jail OR NOT.  Please make sure you have your facts straight before blurting out something that we simply do not have an answer to yet.

[princessdi]

Ok, Ok.  Sorry.  Those are purely my thoughts.  Anyone looking on please attribute them to me and not this site.  Now, I hope this statement, and Snoopy's, sufficiently covers this sites legal be.....er rear. 

[Artiste]

Thank you Snoopy...

[Murcielago]

So instead of being over today, it now goes into drawn out and messy. I wonder if judges often throw out plea deals...?

[Alex L. Walker]

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=120337&catid=158

Channel News story they aired.

[Gregory]

Well, the judge has rejected the plea agraeement and allowed TS to withdraw his guilty plea.

So, in the eyes of the law, at this point in time TS is not guilty.  Yes, he could go to trial and he could be found guilty.  If that happens, at that time he will in the eyes of the law, be guilty.  However, I do not beleive that it is a "slam dunk" that he will be found guilty.  It is true that he may be found guilty.  But, it is also true that he may be found "not guilty."  It just might be a "crap shoot."   [NOTE: I Reference the game of dice.]

However, there is another option.  That option just might mean that TS does not go to trial.  They could negotiate another plea deal in the hopes that the new judge would accept it.  That would likely result in some prison time.  But, the hope would be that the prison time would be less than what he might recive in a jury trial.

I frankly do not believe that the Commonwealth attorney (Katherine Stott) wants to take it to trial.  I also believe that Shelton's attornies believe that they have a chance at a not guilty verdict.

NOTE: My comments do not indicate that I do not beleive those who have accused TS.  When TS initially pled guilty, I felt that was the truth, as much as the criminal process  would uncover the truth.  My comments simply reflect how I see it from the standpoint of obtaining a criminal conviction.  Criminal courts are concerned with criminal process according to the statute.  Often they are not involved with truth.  I think that TS has a chance of being found Not Guilty in a criminal trial.  But, also a chance of a conviction.

So, here we have it:

Go to trial and be found guilty.
Go to trial and be found not guilty.
Negotiate another plea deal.