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[christian]

Someone seems to have quite an unusual obsession with Michelle Obama and she is a fine looking woman, but there are other fish in the sea that are still swimming free.

Not really, actually I very seldom even think about her except that I caught on that a few people have a unatural hate for her on this site. I can see for some that she is a lightning rod for there hidden prejudices and so I repeat her name because it upsets them so much. Every time she is mentioned they just hit the roof with anger and hatred. I have stated before that I did not like George Bush, maintly because of the Iraqi war and the obvious slant towards the rich, but never, never did I even think for a moment ill of his wife. She (Michelle Obama) really is not that different from any first lady, she may do a few more speeches for her husband and for that I say more power to her. But for some it is way over the top (they even said something about her children, so I kinda feed into the hype a little; I figuire, if they will play that game, well, so will I.

[horsethief]

So, Christian... Who thinks ill of the First Lady on here? Could it be anyone who disagrees with you?

I noticed that you're using the 'HATE' label again...

You don't seem to have learned...

[tinka]

There is no hate either "here" just observance of horrific ugly policies. and of course the woman thing picked up by many woman on "ethics"  of normal actions, dress, and abnormal actions when one holds a position of "first lady". There is always comparison when it comes to women's abilities of being "class" not style but "class".  and MO style has been clownish as I find myself looking for the next funny "style" when they announce she will be on TV. I can't believe I am drawn to that habit of looking to see what next. She pays the wrong person if she can't know for herself what is ridiculous. I have often wondered if her paid person does it on purpose to accentuate the worst possible views. I can create and sew better then those garbs. Of course she might not like it because I love simple "elegance" and know how to achieve it. and.... Obama may be closer then one might think 

[tinka]

Doing his speeches that he cannot do without the props is not the only thing she does for him in the political arena.

[princessdi]

Tinka, you know I like you, but the truth is the truth. You drink from the endless liter of Obama family haterade as often as you can.  You cannot even stand the fact that either was born and still breath free air, and then had the audacity to procreate.....two times. 

Now Christian, Tinka is the one who posts her distaste for the first family.  Not sure I remember Horsethief saying anything.  However, I am not here everyday reading, and I am not sure that Horsethief did not at the very least cosign to a post of Tinka's off color, racist statements regarding the first family.

[princessdi]

Now, to the OP.  I am with Christian, of course. we don't know all that was said.  AND we have to remember that in this post 911 world , you can't just go out and say what you want anymore.  Now if it was a simple stupid statement from a not so bright, drunk teenager, then banned forever is a bit much.  And who says he ever wanted to come to the USA?  I think there must be more to this story.

[Adam]

Racism? Ok, if My stance against the President is now qualified or labled "racism" I am guilty as Charged as well! I think it is uncalled for to assume that someone is racist only because they tell the truth about Barack Hussein Obama. Who cares if he is black? That is beside the point, the point is he is clearly one of the worst leaders in American history. He is a muslim/Islamic radical who has no heart, may we all pray that we never get attacked again, because Obama will "punk" out!! May God help this great nation.

P.S. OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST WHO CRAMS THINGS DOWN OUR THROATS THAT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IS TOTALLY AGAINST! ONE CAN ONLY HOPE THAT NOVEMBER 2012 COMES FAST ENOUGH! GOD'S SPEED!

[mrst53]

princessdi,
I don't think tinka wants the Obamas dead or wishes they had never been born. She just doesn't like their political views nor does she like all the media hype that they are getting. She also thinks that Michelle could have a better tailor and hairdresser. With that I too agree. Michelle Obama is a beautiful woman, yet her hairdresser does not make the most of her beauty and that may be her or Barak's choice, I don't know. Her choice of clothes may also be her choice. She is a very tall woman with a woderful build and could handle clothes well and has her choice of clothing that would make her look stuning. Again all this may be her choice. She may choose to downplay her beauty, in order to not upstage her husband.  Just my thoughts.

[princessdi]

Now Mrst, with Tinka, we have been around this block before. Even before President Obama's election.  Everything about the Obamas bothers her, including the kids. because they are black.  Simple as that. 

With Adam this is his and I first time around this block, but he sounds exactly like Tinka and every other racist person, who cloaks their racism in having issues with his political policies.  Now, there are some who just purely do have a problem with his policies.  I am not painting all with a broad brush and sterotyping anyone.  There is a difference when they speak of their dissatisfaction. I am just going by the comments made here.  When enough of these thinly veiled racist comments have been directed at you and those close to you, you can recognize it immediately and even when it is not apparently clear to others. Believe, me, they are here spinning it. Nobody but the KKK and Arian Nation openly admit racism. The rest justify with all manner of madness.  Been there, done that, got the tees hirt, hap, and mug.

Now as to Michelle's attire.......you know, I think she has to keep her position in mind.  Plus you have to remember, she was working primarlily in law firms, then her husband was in the political area locally, etc.  I just also think that her taste is pretty conservative.  She could be a bit more trendy, but I don't believe that she is comfortable with that, as she seems to be dressing about the same as she always has. I have to admire her staying true to herself, and not losing herself in all the considerable hype.  Bottom line, her husband not only likes it.  but is openly proud of his beautiful wife.  That might be enough even if he were Joe Blow on the street, but now that he is the Leader of the Free World, I wouldn't change a thing, either!  LOL!!!

[tinka]

Di, Di, how can you read so many words into my post that are entirely not true or that I have said and on the other hand Mrst53, Adam and others know exactly my point and what I am saying. You have made up your own opinion of what you think I say instead of reading the words.

We have been round and round on this racism thing and I could care less of the color of ones skin as long as their agenda is Christian, humble, intelligent, hard working for the benefit of others and their own agenda  for and from our God given freedoms of this country.  Right now they stand for none of this.Your not a kidding I am against the Obama's. and If they had white skin I would be still up in arms over this.  I have seen actual pictures, I have read and saw the corruptions of these wicked things that are happening behind the scenes. I have saw things that you do not even want to see and I could very well post them on here under the right thread but it is just too much and I know it will come out eventually just as it is now coming little by little. The Americans that do not watch closely politicall stuff would be shocked. The biased liberal media have protected their agenda's. But it just like 3abn saga the evil will raise its ugly head and then you think the Black race will not stand up. You got another thing coming. There are whites that are against all KKK and the likes of the disgusting ones and that is me included and that is who will fight together. What makes me so angry is the deceitful way the oppressed are used to vote thinking it is for their good when a dirty trick is all that it was. Blacks don't have jobs and whites don't have jobs and soon the ugly head is spotted by all Americans and those that cannot get it will wonder what happened when they did not make it and it's too late. Racism is not going to be in heaven or those that still got it. So your remarks are your own and not my belief.

I truly believe it may already have gone too far this "Trojan Horse". Many more things are going to come out. I find it quite interesting that you and "Sebastian" cannot get it through your head my points and everyone else can. I truly believe the racism block is on your shoulders and this creepy talking guy that is way out in his observances. I noticed instantly his awareness of obama women. The only thing that got me angry is his manner of lustful speaking that readily acknowledged a sicko way of speaking. I knew he was no "Christian" to even speak like that or else he is a socialist Muslim from another country born and syphons off here. so you can agree with him all you want as my picture is way beyond someones skin. and on the other hand you better get it straight because I believe in the end The black and white Americans that will fight together on this mass distruction of America to get it turned around. and believe me there is more of us now then of you and Sebbycumlatly with lustful eyes appearing in the halls of the white house of the gracefully Obamalassies. Yuck! He presented this Ugly scenario all by him self....that is what I hate and I do not coin others words of "hateraid" cliche's to make a untruthful point. So with all that aside and hopefully stated to your understanding and approval I know we would like each other then that I have many friends that do not talk like this but both them and me have the same agenda.  Freedom --have you not heard or read that all will suffer the same in the end of the worst since beginning of time. So what now makes us different???

[christian]

Di, Di, how can you read so many words into my post that are entirely not true or that I have said and on the other hand Mrst53, Adam and others know exactly my point and what I am saying. You have made up your own opinion of what you think I say instead of reading the words.

We have been round and round on this racism thing and I could care less of the color of ones skin as long as their agenda is Christian, humble, intelligent, hard working for the benefit of others and their own agenda  for and from our God given freedoms of this country.  Right now they stand for none of this.Your not a kidding I am against the Obama's. and If they had white skin I would be still up in arms over this.  I have seen actual pictures, I have read and saw the corruptions of these wicked things that are happening behind the scenes. I have saw things that you do not even want to see and I could very well post them on here under the right thread but it is just too much and I know it will come out eventually just as it is now coming little by little. The Americans that do not watch closely politicall stuff would be shocked. The biased liberal media have protected their agenda's. But it just like 3abn saga the evil will raise its ugly head and then you think the Black race will not stand up. You got another thing coming. There are whites that are against all KKK and the likes of the disgusting ones and that is me included and that is who will fight together. What makes me so angry is the deceitful way the oppressed are used to vote thinking it is for their good when a dirty trick is all that it was. Blacks don't have jobs and whites don't have jobs and soon the ugly head is spotted by all Americans and those that cannot get it will wonder what happened when they did not make it and it's too late. Racism is not going to be in heaven or those that still got it. So your remarks are your own and not my belief.

I truly believe it may already have gone too far this "Trojan Horse". Many more things are going to come out. I find it quite interesting that you and "Sebastian" cannot get it through your head my points and everyone else can. I truly believe the racism block is on your shoulders and this creepy talking guy that is way out in his observances. I noticed instantly his awareness of obama women. The only thing that got me angry is his manner of lustful speaking that readily acknowledged a sicko way of speaking. I knew he was no "Christian" to even speak like that or else he is a socialist Muslim from another country born and syphons off here. so you can agree with him all you want as my picture is way beyond someones skin. and on the other hand you better get it straight because I believe in the end The black and white Americans that will fight together on this mass distruction of America to get it turned around. and believe me there is more of us now then of you and Sebbycumlatly with lustful eyes appearing in the halls of the white house of the gracefully Obamalassies. Yuck! He presented this Ugly scenario all by him self....that is what I hate and I do not coin others words of "hateraid" cliche's to make a untruthful point. So with all that aside and hopefully stated to your understanding and approval I know we would like each other then that I have many friends that do not talk like this but both them and me have the same agenda.  Freedom --have you not heard or read that all will suffer the same in the end of the worst since beginning of time. So what now makes us different???

Tinka, I am completely convinced that you have convinced yourself that your hatred for Obama and his wife is strictly justified based on policy. You even state that others besides Di and I understand you and your constant hatred towards the Obama's as being driven by a pure and clean heart and desire to see freedom. Give me a break lady, you are so full of envy and jealousy it is ridiculous and the way you talk about Michelle Obama definitely shows that. Your reference to "Red Necks" as though it is them that made this country great is all a reflection to the state of mind and base principle of your character. and then you even try to justify by making a reference to a black red neck as if there was one. ----As I have stated before the tea party, hijacked from the libertarian party was started in as little as two weeks after Obama got in office. A significant portion of those in the tea party are racist who are dissatisfied with a black man being in office. You and others have been so brainwashed by the establishment that even things that should be important to Christians (Health Care) and compassion for the poor no matter what nationality are lost in your suppose privileged situation as a white woman in America. I was born in this country by the grace of God and that by no strength of my own. I am sure that if I was an Mexican or from South America I would probably want to come to this country too. I am grateful that many people of the world do want to come here to work and contribute to society, they are just as deserving of a prosperous life as I am.

[christian]

Racism? Ok, if My stance against the President is now qualified or labled "racism" I am guilty as Charged as well! I think it is uncalled for to assume that someone is racist only because they tell the truth about Barack Hussein Obama. Who cares if he is black? That is beside the point, the point is he is clearly one of the worst leaders in American history. He is a muslim/Islamic radical who has no heart, may we all pray that we never get attacked again, because Obama will "punk" out!! May God help this great nation.

P.S. OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST WHO CRAMS THINGS DOWN OUR THROATS THAT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IS TOTALLY AGAINST! ONE CAN ONLY HOPE THAT NOVEMBER 2012 COMES FAST ENOUGH! GOD'S SPEED!

So what did he cram down your throat? Did he cram down your throat the Iraqi war? How about the failed housing market? Okay, what do you base your statement on that he is a Muslin/Islamic radical? So you are a guilty racist? What truth have you told? We are basing you on your obvious unrealistic total lack of understanding, and on the fact you put George Bush Jr. in office for 8 years. How is he clearly one of the worst leaders in American History?

[Murcielago]

There is often a misperception that if a person is strongly opposed to Obama they must support Bush. That assumption would be patently false. I believe that Obama is one of the worst things that has happened to this country, second only to Bush. The Patriot Act took many of the freedoms that make America great, and put them into the hands of a few government officials. In the name of freedom, Bush took away our freedom. On another categorical level, Obama has taken our financial and personal decision making freedoms from us in the name of financial freedom, and placed them in the hands of government beaurocrats. Tea Party...? A group that would love to take away our religious freedom. In short, the Democrats want to take our money and personal/family decision making away, the Republicans want to take our civil freedoms away, and the Tea Partiers want to take our religious freedoms away. They are an unclean lot who look on the populace as nothing more than sheep to be sheared. And that, Tinka, Christian, Princess and Adam is the present status of the cycles that have afflicted peoples and nations for the duration of recorded history.

[Murcielago]

Each group has always done what they have done with the full and sincere belief that they were acting in the best interests of all parties. Look at South Africa. In 1624 when the Dutch traders settled in the Cape, there was no black population south of the Limpopo, there were only a smattering of San. Over time, the Dutch moved North and the Blacks moved south, and the inevitable conflict broke out. In 1795 the British took control and the Dutch Boers entered a period of conflict seeking freedom as an Afrikaaner nation that lasted until the mid 20th century when they won their country by popular vote, throwing out Jan Christian Smuts and the British. Whereupon, they proceeded to establish what they saw as a Biblical order of heirarchy in race: Boer, European, Coloured (mixed with white), and Black (bantu). They laid out Biblical principle, and demonstrated that all races would be happier and more successful in this system. They firmly believed that they knew what was best for everyone... just as Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Bush, Gore and so many others feel about us.

[tinka]

Murcielago,

I agree, but somehow Ive missed the thing with the religious freedom from the tea parties agenda. They have called us to share our story but we have not got involved yet although many are aware that what we have been through has happened to many others too.   I usually run down all the news links from some people behind the scenes that back this. I am all ears to hear your take on this. What gave you this feeling.  

True I do not see everything as I stay pretty busy but am interested in this evaluation.  I agree we sure are in a mess anyway we look at it. I am just so surprised it came this way and now Im looking at the connections of the pope and the Muslims.

 Sure is scary or is it the mixed emotional excitement of the fact that that we are just on the Horizon of the coming of Jesus. I know the last will be rapid and some of us might not be ready. I know in the beginning that I did not feel that we were loosing freedom at the time of Bush because I felt it was for our own good in the protection from these "wild people". but soon discovered it was much deeper as the Bushes finally popped up with the New World Order and skull and bones and then I knew how bad it was. He had to be part of the push for the "One world Power" .

I do realize that nothing will stop the chain of events but...Egw states to fight for freedom as long as we can so that maybe others may come into the fold at the very last.  That is the way I look at it. I am sure you know that the Bushes and Elizabeth are cousins. But right now as you can see that the "purple wave of grain" the heartland is looking to Sarah for to get back to the way it was. You can tell as the polls and votes as soon as she speaks with this new movement.  I am not even sure she will run but she sure does have the influence at this time. and I see nothing wrong with her family other then the same situations that most families have but she is an overcomer and defender and above all she knows how to provide that will go far with the people under her care. I am for the US to be self reliant and use our own resourses and so is she.

I am sick of these green people that preserve the nature and animals above and beyond reality of humans. A farmer perserves these things much better then the Hollywood Stars and in ways that benefits both.   I feel God left us things to use for our well being. The wood for building, food, and health. and yet they do not like the people to use the land for their self perservation and its in the works to stop all this and that is a fact. Who do they think they are? So their perservation is then burning up all over their taking of the land. Parks, cities, open land etc etc. fires they cannot stop once it gets going and winds that fire it. Nature needs care and trimming and that was our job. Not to --not touch it.