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[horsethief]

I could go back to my dad's farm and find those rubberband stretchers we used to use for castrating rams.

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

I could go back to my dad's farm and find those rubberband stretchers we used to use for castrating rams.

You are assuming this is all about "sexual orientation" and castration would cure the perpetrator.

I saw a case that involved a "castrated" eunich that was able to arrange an implant to perpetuate his crime, that obviously had no real "pleasure" or fulfillment. The root issue in that case was sheer dominance and a host of other psychiatric issues that finally lead to serious physical damage to a victim, probably in an attempt to end the victims life, that fortunately failed.

When the perpetrator found out we had the young victim and that he might be able to testify, the perpetrator did us the favor of putting a pistol into his mouth and pulled the trigger...an ER had the pleasure of declaring him DOA!!!

Unfortunately, insufficient punishment for the crimes he perpetrated, but saved us all loads of time and money.

Point is, it is not just about "sexual orientation" but usually involves far more complex issues and can often lead to violence in one form or another. Whether violence is a result or not, the victims lives are even more disrupted, guilt ridden, severe loss of confidence in humanity, God and a host of other social issues that they cannot escape easily even with counseling.

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter

[horsethief]

Just my silly musings...
But I don't buy that any person is born with a natural sexual inclination toward children or for the same sex. I believe that environmental factors play the largest part on that. Call me old fashioned, closed-minded, homophobic, judgemental.. I've heard all of that. But here is one perspective on sexual orientation that no person has been able to dispute.
How many of you have donated blood?

I make sure I do that at work, every other month when it is offered. It saves lives.

Every time I donate, I fill out the questionaire asking me about my past medical/social events. Every time there is a question for males only that states, "Have you, even once, had sex with another male?

I notice every time I donate that the gay males I work with are never blood donors. The reason why, a 'YES' answer to that question immediatly disqualifies them from blood donation. If any person puts false info on that questionaire, then they can be prosecuted.

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 So don't ever be convinced that being gay is somehow a phenomena that is normal and natural, no matter what our politically correct society demands. It's not natural, it's learned, sick, perverted behavior , period.

[Bob Pickle]

I believe that environmental factors play the largest part on that.

Another possibility:

"Do not for a moment acknowledge Satan's temptations as being in harmony with your own mind." (1MCP 32)

A person might have thought that the whisperings of Satan in his ear were really his own thoughts when they were nothing of the sort. Acknowledging the whisperings of that masterful hypnotist as being one's own thoughts leads to one's thoughts echoing those whisperings.

[daylily]

I see that "Lilly" states that the new GC President, Elder Neil Wilson, supports 3ABN.

Is not "Lilly" off a couple of decades?  I thought Ted Wilson was the new GC President.

Elder Neil Wilson is the name of father and son, but son has used the acronym "Ted"
and has distinguished the two over the years. But, must we be concerned of the old
saged wisdom "like Father, like son?" If so we are in for significant turmoil!!!

If "Ted" has any interest in 3ABN it might be limited to the "merger" into an established
SDA entity and the liquidation of the adultery ridden administration.

Gailon Arthur Joy

AUReporter

What kind of significant turmoil are you talking about? I don't remember anything about the elder Wilson.
Thanks!
Daylily

[tinka]

Just my silly musings...
But I don't buy that any person is born with a natural sexual inclination toward children or for the same sex. I believe that environmental factors play the largest part on that. Call me old fashioned, closed-minded, homophobic, judgemental.. I've heard all of that. But here is one perspective on sexual orientation that no person has been able to dispute.

Do not underestimate what the use of scientifically engineered soy that is used in almost all foods and baby formula, then take the fanaticism of taking away all dairy, eggs, butter. Give all soy and you will have great change in human identity. We were warned in Lev not to mess with God's creation of seed. They did and then there was Sodom and Gomorrah. What a diversion to human creation going against the commands of God. You can now see it in the animals when they have both male and female organs too. Check it out next time you go to a fair. Look at the big picture of cause and effect. Years ago, Loma Linda had a study on giving soy to I think Haiti and other poor countries for infants. Anyone remember that? That is why I will not cook with much soy. Also the Jewish nation on tv have a saying that I am not the only one figuring this out. They claim that "soy" makes little girls out of your little boys. I personally have seen it done to a baby that never tasted dairy, sugar, meat, or anything hardly edible. I remember him as a beautiful baby boy. Very sad, sad outcome.

[horsethief]

Tinka... Are you feeling OK?

[tinka]

(smile), it is not surprising that many people do not care or realize to look into what they put in their stomach. or whats in a flu shot and why they believe all because it comes from the gov. Check back with Loma Linda and their soy studies of years ago as very young children reached puberty by 3-4 years old in the poor countries they sent soy milk when other was not available. Little girls with breasts in the cribs yet. and boys able to reproduce very young.  Watch the Jewish scientists on their TV station and their medical advice. It is plain as day what they say and keep up with food that is right to eat. Then go read Lev and see where they messed with the seed, animals and humans. Why did God tell them to not do it. Because (smile) horsethief, they did to the distortion or amalgamation of man and beast. Then Horsethief, they found results is such things as strangeness of humans and dinosaurs that they can arrive with the use of a word to attain the belief of evolution. Satan tried to destroy all God's creations into disaster. Then read again why the flood. Read very close and the Jewish people are correct. What is wrong with us?? Let's see, soy with Adventists is big business!! It has it's goodness in the right places....Old ladies. But to your question (laugh) I'm feeling fine. Sorry but I can tell you a lot that goes on in gov that is put on the people and they never know the difference. I think the latest thing out there now is now in the workings. Scientifically engineered Salmon fish. Already seen it in the making. There huge and a lot bigger.

[Daryl Fawcett]

I could go back to my dad's farm and find those rubberband stretchers we used to use for castrating rams.

When the perpetrator found out we had the young victim and that he might be able to testify, the perpetrator did us the favor of putting a pistol into his mouth and pulled the trigger...an ER had the pleasure of declaring him DOA!!!

Unfortunately, insufficient punishment for the crimes he perpetrated, but saved us all loads of time and money.

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter

Isn't this rather strong language coming from a professed Christian? 

[Adam]

I could go back to my dad's farm and find those rubberband stretchers we used to use for castrating rams.

When the perpetrator found out we had the young victim and that he might be able to testify, the perpetrator did us the favor of putting a pistol into his mouth and pulled the trigger...an ER had the pleasure of declaring him DOA!!!

Unfortunately, insufficient punishment for the crimes he perpetrated, but saved us all loads of time and money.

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter

Isn't this rather strong language coming from a professed Christian?  

Mr Fawcett--Why do you perceive this to be possibly unchristian? Coming from a friend of a victim I share the sentiment of GAJ. The Bible even shares the same feeling if you read it carefully! It is time that people wake up and quit sugar coating and putting a pretty face on a sexual molestor and mentally sick so-called man of God! Maybe Horsethief was correct when he stated that TS needs to be faced with "Bubba". Possibly it would be some closure if TS had the same acts exposed upon him that he didn't think twice exposing on young boys!!!

So I ask you, again, why do you find that to be unchristian? Do you also find my statement to be unchristian as well? If so, that's fine. It's time to call it as you see it. The way I see it, TS needs to be exposed for what he is and for what he's done!!!

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

What kind of significant turmoil are you talking about? I don't remember anything about the elder Wilson.
Thanks!
Daylily

The Wilson years were marked by a number of scandals and significant losses, largely unpunished and swept under the rug of corporate "christianity"...these are documented in "Who Watches? Who Cares?" by Doug Hackleman and since I had the unfortunate privilege of investigating many of these issues or worked with those who did, I can say that he has dochumented the issues very well.

We lost Harris Pine Mills and saw the deterioration of educational systems, the failure of our North American LE Programs, the utilization of non-SDA lawfirms to pursue litigation against the brethren for various issues, the emrgence of a number of powerful independent ministries (largely an outgrowth of protest and building of churches within a church), including 3ABN, despite the counsel of many.

Our Medical ministries restructured into several Adventis Health Systems and were heavily leveraged in direct contradiction of counsel at the turn of the 20th century.

And probably most significantly we moved toward the premise that we must become a mainstream religion instead of a distinct people, all in the quest to avoid being called a "CULT".

This lead to a coup where the chairman of the GC Nominating committee and a conference president being elected President and then was charged with serious violations of ethics by the current president and set aside mid-term by resigning to avoid being thrown out for having a business relationship with the Vatican Bank and a Vatican Subsidiary.

Beleive me, the history is not one we wish to repeat, not that I expect any man will bring about the reformation we need as the Lord makes it clear that He must manifest exhibit His Spirit within the church at the correct moment.

That moment will arrive regardless of whom is the President.


Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter

[horsethief]

Imagine Tommy's first day on the block and meets his cell mate, Bubba, about 6'5" and all of 320 pounds...   


  ;Dhehehehehe!

[Adam]

Imagine Tommy's first day on the block and meets his cell mate, Bubba, about 6'5" and all of 320 pounds...   


  ;Dhehehehehe!

 

Then will the sympathizers still feel sorry for poor Pastor Tommy R. Shelton? TS is not only going to get "nailed" in court, but he's going to get "nailed" in prision....if you catch my drift.

[ex3abnemployee]

Again I say, this kind of talk is not enjoyable at all. Do you think I, as a victim, would take any enjoyment from Tommy experiencing some of the very things that happened to me?

I can tell you assuredly, I would not.

[Adam]

Maybe not Duane, but that does not mean he don't deserve it!