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Gailon Arthur Joy

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Re: Illegal immigrants attending SDA churches...
« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2010, 09:01:26 PM »

Here is an example of how difficult it is to keep everyone happy...on the one hand you complain that it is too difficult and takes months of waiting for someone to get VA Benefits and SSDI...on the other you complain it is TOO EASY for a a system abuser to get SSI and AFDC or General Assistance...so, do we want to set the bar high or low? In other words, do we want far more abuse or do we want to tighten standards and deprive more people of benefits?

I am of the growing opinion that to a large degree centralization is the key to the dilemma. In our effort to get national equanimity in government benefits distribution we have ceded that authority further and further from the beneficiary. We need to reverse centralization and as in move back to the concept of "localization" of services and benefits by local panels and local citizens. They will argue it is costly but would pay huge dividends.

In almost every governmental intervention whether it be education, banking, health, education, welfare and a host of other processes, if you compare the increasing inefficiencies and poor results from operations, there is usually a more direct relationship with centralization and growing inefficiencies and increases in fraud and other corruption. The more centralization, the bigger the numbers and the more temptation to fill ones pocket and the less likely anyone will catch it.

I could go on with a diatribe...education being an example. The further we get from neighborhood schools and the more centralized education becomes, the less bang we get for the buck. And the less educated the masses of students are!!!


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Re: Illegal immigrants attending SDA churches...
« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2010, 06:00:27 PM »

Gailon,
Localization is great, as long as the records can be sent to centralized center or 2 centers, just in case someone moves and the records can be accessed somewhere else.  The Military has long held records in a centralized center, only one problem,when there was a fire, millions of military and VA records were lost.... Hundreds of thousands of Veterans have been unable to get their benifits, because of that fire. Most people do not keep a good record of their health records, relying on doctors or hospitals to keep them.

As far as education, you are preaching to the Choir... The money for education is Not getting where it needs to be and it MAKES ME MAD!! Children are suffering because of it.
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Re: Illegal immigrants attending SDA churches...
« Reply #47 on: October 29, 2010, 05:31:32 AM »

Still, every illegal immigrant in the USA is a criminal. If illegal immigrants are trying to use SDA congregations to find employment or refuge from deportation, then they need to be told that the SDA church is a law-abiding institution and that if they persist, then immigration authorities will be notified.
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Re: Illegal immigrants attending SDA churches...
« Reply #48 on: October 29, 2010, 12:01:05 PM »

I know that's right Horsethief!  And if they don't believe you, tell 'em to ask Lake Region Conference. 

Still, every illegal immigrant in the USA is a criminal. If illegal immigrants are trying to use SDA congregations to find employment or refuge from deportation, then they need to be told that the SDA church is a law-abiding institution and that if they persist, then immigration authorities will be notified.
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