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[ex3abnemployee]

 It doesn't sound like a threat to me because I know Trent and he isn't like that. I can't imagine him threatening anybody. I have read the whole conversation now, and that is why I think he was just trying to say all of the people who know and love Tommy can't all be crazy. I think the part about ending up in a mess was warning him to think because of all of the people here who hate Tommy and Pickle being out for blood . Alex wouldn't tell Trent what happened but was saying he never wrote a statement for the police of filed charges and didn't know about anything until a reporter came to his door. I think Alex said to someone that he was going to see a lawyer in California and try to get out of it all and was going to sue the prosecutor for giving his name out, so that is the mess Trent was trying to talk about. Anyway, I never met Tommy, but I do know Trent so wanted to say this. I hope I can say this and don't get called names because I took this a different way.

Well well, the return of Harley. Do you realize the Bible says we will be held accountable for every idle word? That includes what we post anonymously on internet boards.

It also includes your every idle word, Duane Clem. It includes every sharp tongued insult and personal attack and all the mean name calling and bitter judgments you post here and say elsewhere against others.

I am sure you realize the bible says this also:


Psa 15:      
A psalm of David. Who may worship in your sanctuary, Lord? Who may enter your presence on your holy hill?
Those who lead blameless lives and do what is right, speaking the truth from sincere hearts.
Those who refuse to slander others or harm their neighbors or speak evil of their friends.
Those who despise persistent sinners, and honor the faithful followers of the Lord and keep their promises even when it hurts.
Those who do not charge interest on the money they lend, and who refuse to accept bribes to testify against the innocent. Such people will stand firm forever. .

Ps 64
1
O God, listen to my complaint.
Do not let my enemies' threats overwhelm me.
2
Protect me from the plots of the wicked,
from the scheming of those who do evil.
3
Sharp tongues are the swords they wield;
bitter words are the arrows they aim.
4
They shoot from ambush at the innocent,
attacking suddenly and fearlessly.
5
They encourage each other to do evil
and plan how to set their traps.
"Who will ever notice?" they ask.
6
As they plot their crimes, they say,
"We have devised the perfect plan!"
Yes, the human heart and mind are cunning.
7
But God himself will shoot them down.
Suddenly, his arrows will pierce them.
8
Their own words will be turned against them, destroying them.
All who see it happening will shake their heads in scorn.
9
Then everyone will stand in awe,
proclaiming the mighty acts of God,
realizing all the amazing things he does.

I think you need that passage more than most. The lies you have told will not be forgotten by God.

[mrst53]

I think we all need to step back and pray before before we make our comments on any statements made. I know I am outsider and I don't have the emotional involvement that all of you do,but I have noticed that sometimes the comments are taken out of context and then everyone gets angry. I know some of those from the other side can be nasty, but maybe some are actually trying to make sense out of this mess too, just like we are. This is trully a mess that we all have  to wonder why God allowed it to happen in the first place and allowed it to continue as long as it did.

[princessdi]

Let the church say....... AAAAAAMEN!   Thank you mrst53!  I glad I am not the only one.

[Nosir Myzing]

I just want it to be clear that I never stated I was flying out to California to see an attorney about suing the prosecutor. That is a bold face lie from someone. The thing is you are just as guilty as them for repeating it, Harley.

I have hired attorneys out of California and New York and someone may end up being sued but it won't be the prosecutor.

I told you I don't want to argue. You keep arguing. I asked you to stop bugging me and talking about it because  I don't want to talk about it anymore. You keep bugging me and talking to me about it. Now you are calling me a liar again, but you left part out Alex. I said: "I think Alex said to someone that he was going to see a lawyer in California and try to get out of it all, and was going to sue the prosecutor for giving his name out, so that is the mess Trent was trying to talk about." I was wrong and I mispoke when I said prosecutor". I am sorry! Alex what I thought I was told was that there were two different things you said at different times to your family. That is why I thought that. Here is what was said to me: "a family member stated that Alex told them that he was going to sue the detective for revealing his name as one of the victims.  He also told three other family members that he was going to California to talk with a lawyer to see how he could get out of this case with Tommy Shelton and said he did not want to be involved."
I don't know why they would lie. I didn't know you were going to call your family liars until you answered. I told you I wasn't calling you a liar. I told you I am not calling them liars. I don't know!You need to talk to them. Not me! You keep calling me a liar too, and I am not a liar and I have not been lying! So I am not talking to you anymore. You can just Kiss ma grits from now on.

P.S.
I have to edit my post because I forgot. Here is all the discussion I said I read, because I did read it all. I don't lie! The person I got it from said I could post it because it will help people know who is lying about others  I also got told that my coming here was wrong. It was, because I just feel hate here. So I am leaving again, and I will try not to even read here like I did before.

If you are still reading, I would like to apologize to you, Harley. I am sorry for what you just went through. It's always been hard to try and discuss anything here and so I especially appreciated your efforts to try and be patient and your attempts to explain in the face of so much misunderstanding and mis communication and downright evil judgments and assumption (Nods in Tinka's direction and Alex and Clem) ) I also understand how our patience can run out even though we may express that a bit differently. (lol) Thank you for posting the Facebook file. Please go with God, and may he bless you and lead you.

[tinka]

Thank You and hopefully this will be all over soon and peace to all concerned.

[Johann]

Thank You and hopefully this will be all over soon and peace to all concerned.

[Bob Pickle]

Here is all the discussion I said I read, because I did read it all.

Harley, notice that the first FaceBook message in the PDF you attached to your post refers to comments Trent had already made. Trent neglected to give you those comments. You might want to ask him why.

Secondly, you have posted publicly the false, defamatory statements that Trent made about me. I object to the dissemination of those false statements. They constitute defamation per se, in my opinion. Please delete those comments, and ask Trent to apologize and make amends. It is really stupid for Sheltons to make such false, defamatory statements in the middle of litigation.

Third, Trent stated:

All I see is fear - fear that the case will be hampered by you speaking the truth instead of speaking exactly what they tell you to speak. That's sad.

I know how it works... been there

What does that mean? Has Trent been in trouble with the law? Or does this refer to his mother's involvement with eBay and a possible IRS criminal investigation into that involvement?

[Bob Pickle]

I think we all need to step back and pray before before we make our comments on any statements made. I know I am outsider and I don't have the emotional involvement that all of you do,but I have noticed that sometimes the comments are taken out of context and then everyone gets angry. I know some of those from the other side can be nasty, but maybe some are actually trying to make sense out of this mess too, just like we are. This is trully a mess that we all have  to wonder why God allowed it to happen in the first place and allowed it to continue as long as it did.

I certainly don't appreciate the efforts by the Danny clones to smear the victims of admitted pedophile Tommy Shelton, but I do think we should refrain from calling people subhuman garbage.

Since Jesus referred to Herod as being "that fox," a term like that might be permissible.

Intentionally making a false statement would be telling a lie. I don't think an honest mistake qualifies.

"Be ye angry and sin not." So we should be cautious when we feel hot and bothered.

But even if a victim or a victim's friend uses injudicious words, that does not justify the efforts of the Danny clones to paint the victims as being liars or unchristian.

[Bob Pickle]

Please delete those comments, and ask Trent to apologize and make amends.

Alternatively, rather than delete those comments, Trent can come here and retract what he said.

[ex3abnemployee]

If you are still reading, I would like to apologize to you, Harley. I am sorry for what you just went through. It's always been hard to try and discuss anything here and so I especially appreciated your efforts to try and be patient and your attempts to explain in the face of so much misunderstanding and mis communication and downright evil judgments and assumption (Nods in Tinka's direction and Alex and Clem) ) I also understand how our patience can run out even though we may express that a bit differently. (lol) Thank you for posting the Facebook file. Please go with God, and may he bless you and lead you.

LOL

[Bob Pickle]

It is readily apparent that Trent persistently was trying to get Alex to tell him what happened. Why? I do not recall asking Tommy's victims to tell me in detail exactly what Tommy did. Is it normal for someone to ask such questions as Trent asked?

I think Trent was working for someone, that someone was getting him to try to get Alex to drop charges, and to try to get Alex's story in detail. Who could that someone be?

[Alex L. Walker]

I just want it to be clear that I never stated I was flying out to California to see an attorney about suing the prosecutor. That is a bold face lie from someone. The thing is you are just as guilty as them for repeating it, Harley.

I have hired attorneys out of California and New York and someone may end up being sued but it won't be the prosecutor.

I told you I don't want to argue. You keep arguing. I asked you to stop bugging me and talking about it because  I don't want to talk about it anymore. You keep bugging me and talking to me about it. Now you are calling me a liar again, but you left part out Alex. I said: "I think Alex said to someone that he was going to see a lawyer in California and try to get out of it all, and was going to sue the prosecutor for giving his name out, so that is the mess Trent was trying to talk about." I was wrong and I mispoke when I said prosecutor". I am sorry! Alex what I thought I was told was that there were two different things you said at different times to your family. That is why I thought that. Here is what was said to me: "a family member stated that Alex told them that he was going to sue the detective for revealing his name as one of the victims.  He also told three other family members that he was going to California to talk with a lawyer to see how he could get out of this case with Tommy Shelton and said he did not want to be involved."
I don't know why they would lie. I didn't know you were going to call your family liars until you answered. I told you I wasn't calling you a liar. I told you I am not calling them liars. I don't know!You need to talk to them. Not me! You keep calling me a liar too, and I am not a liar and I have not been lying! So I am not talking to you anymore. You can just Kiss ma grits from now on.

P.S.
I have to edit my post because I forgot. Here is all the discussion I said I read, because I did read it all. I don't lie! The person I got it from said I could post it because it will help people know who is lying about others  I also got told that my coming here was wrong. It was, because I just feel hate here. So I am leaving again, and I will try not to even read here like I did before.

I do not at all appreciate that being posted with it including my photo. You could have at least edited that out!! Again this conversation does not prove most of what you claim. Your information is based on hearsay you yourself admit that.

You claim my family said those lies. Prove it then. You have already admited that you never contacted them even after I made their information available to you. You keep saying "I think" or "I was told."

Even if I did say those things, which I did not, what impact does that really have at all? None.  Now if you could find where I have said I was never molested by Tommy and I was only out for money as some have mentioned then you have some fighting room.

The truth is you cannot find such a thing. I have told the truth and whether you choose to believe it or not will not cause me to lose sleep at night.

Harley you interjected yourself and opened your own self to criticizm when you posted down right lies. If you expected doing so would not result in a response from me; You was wrong.

It is readily apparent that Trent persistently was trying to get Alex to tell him what happened. Why? I do not recall asking Tommy's victims to tell me in detail exactly what Tommy did. Is it normal for someone to ask such questions as Trent asked?

I think Trent was working for someone, that someone was getting him to try to get Alex to drop charges, and to try to get Alex's story in detail. Who could that someone be?

You are correct, Bob. You did not.

[Johann]

You may not see the point immediately, but this discussion reminds me of a conversation I had several years ago with a black friend of mine. He startled me by saying something like this,

- If you really want to hurt your black friends then get up in the pulpit and say, "I just love the black people!"

Like it did with me it may take you a while to understand this. So I leave it at that.

In this discussion some who consider themselves sober thinkers with hearts filled with love for humanity may have done the same thing to victims. . .  I leave it at that for now.

Some years back I got hold of the book WHEN LOVE HURTS.

I think we all need to step back and pray before before we make our comments on any statements made. I know I am outsider and I don't have the emotional involvement that all of you do,but I have noticed that sometimes the comments are taken out of context and then everyone gets angry. I know some of those from the other side can be nasty, but maybe some are actually trying to make sense out of this mess too, just like we are. This is trully a mess that we all have  to wonder why God allowed it to happen in the first place and allowed it to continue as long as it did.

I certainly don't appreciate the efforts by the Danny clones to smear the victims of admitted pedophile Tommy Shelton, but I do think we should refrain from calling people subhuman garbage.

Since Jesus referred to Herod as being "that fox," a term like that might be permissible.

Intentionally making a false statement would be telling a lie. I don't think an honest mistake qualifies.

"Be ye angry and sin not." So we should be cautious when we feel hot and bothered.

But even if a victim or a victim's friend uses injudicious words, that does not justify the efforts of the Danny clones to paint the victims as being liars or unchristian.

[Alex L. Walker]

I just want it to be clear that I never stated I was flying out to California to see an attorney about suing the prosecutor. That is a bold face lie from someone. The thing is you are just as guilty as them for repeating it, Harley.

I have hired attorneys out of California and New York and someone may end up being sued but it won't be the prosecutor.

I told you I don't want to argue. You keep arguing. I asked you to stop bugging me and talking about it because  I don't want to talk about it anymore. You keep bugging me and talking to me about it. Now you are calling me a liar again, but you left part out Alex. I said: "I think Alex said to someone that he was going to see a lawyer in California and try to get out of it all, and was going to sue the prosecutor for giving his name out, so that is the mess Trent was trying to talk about." I was wrong and I mispoke when I said prosecutor". I am sorry! Alex what I thought I was told was that there were two different things you said at different times to your family. That is why I thought that. Here is what was said to me: "a family member stated that Alex told them that he was going to sue the detective for revealing his name as one of the victims.  He also told three other family members that he was going to California to talk with a lawyer to see how he could get out of this case with Tommy Shelton and said he did not want to be involved."
I don't know why they would lie. I didn't know you were going to call your family liars until you answered. I told you I wasn't calling you a liar. I told you I am not calling them liars. I don't know!You need to talk to them. Not me! You keep calling me a liar too, and I am not a liar and I have not been lying! So I am not talking to you anymore. You can just Kiss ma grits from now on.

P.S.
I have to edit my post because I forgot. Here is all the discussion I said I read, because I did read it all. I don't lie! The person I got it from said I could post it because it will help people know who is lying about others  I also got told that my coming here was wrong. It was, because I just feel hate here. So I am leaving again, and I will try not to even read here like I did before.

If you are still reading, I would like to apologize to you, Harley. I am sorry for what you just went through. It's always been hard to try and discuss anything here and so I especially appreciated your efforts to try and be patient and your attempts to explain in the face of so much misunderstanding and mis communication and downright evil judgments and assumption (Nods in Tinka's direction and Alex and Clem) ) I also understand how our patience can run out even though we may express that a bit differently. (lol) Thank you for posting the Facebook file. Please go with God, and may he bless you and lead you.

Really? Where is the appology to Duane, Roger, the other victim in Virginia, and myself for your sides false assumptions and evil judgements?

[Alex L. Walker]

I think we all need to step back and pray before before we make our comments on any statements made. I know I am outsider and I don't have the emotional involvement that all of you do,but I have noticed that sometimes the comments are taken out of context and then everyone gets angry. I know some of those from the other side can be nasty, but maybe some are actually trying to make sense out of this mess too, just like we are. This is trully a mess that we all have  to wonder why God allowed it to happen in the first place and allowed it to continue as long as it did.

I certainly don't appreciate the efforts by the Danny clones to smear the victims of admitted pedophile Tommy Shelton, but I do think we should refrain from calling people subhuman garbage.

Since Jesus referred to Herod as being "that fox," a term like that might be permissible.

Intentionally making a false statement would be telling a lie. I don't think an honest mistake qualifies.

"Be ye angry and sin not." So we should be cautious when we feel hot and bothered.

But even if a victim or a victim's friend uses injudicious words, that does not justify the efforts of the Danny clones to paint the victims as being liars or unchristian.

I will try to refrain from using that term. My point is these people are attacking me anonymously meaning they have no identity. In my view that is less than human.