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[Alex L. Walker]

Jamie posted earlier Alex's responce to this that Trenton Chance said.

Trenton said:

I'm going to have to advise you to start thinking for yourself and don't let others (Pickle, etc) think for you. You don't need legal counsel. Tommy is the one who got arrested. If anything you should do your best to remove any damage you may have done and back out of this before Tommy does die at the hands of injustice.

Do you know how many thousands of people love Tommy Shelton? Do you know how many people are completely nuts of those thousands? Who knows what mess you may end up in. Lawyers want a case that can get attention and cash. It's their job. That's a no brainer. Pickle is out for blood - that... that is pure evil.

This was Alex's responce:

As I stated, I am cooperating with the police. I have no reason not too. All I can say is that yes, something did happen. I'm not sure what you are meaning by damages that I have done.

Yes, I do realize that Tommy is loved by many. Like I also stated, I do not communicate with Bob on a regular basis.

I thought it to be only fair to allow everyone to see what prompted that explanation.

Sounds like a threat to me.

 It doesn't sound like a threat to me because I know Trent and he isn't like that. I can't imagine him threatening anybody. I have read the whole conversation now, and that is why I think he was just trying to say all of the people who know and love Tommy can't all be crazy. I think the part about ending up in a mess was warning him to think because of all of the people here who hate Tommy and Pickle being out for blood . Alex wouldn't tell Trent what happened but was saying he never wrote a statement for the police of filed charges and didn't know about anything until a reporter came to his door. I think Alex said to someone that he was going to see a lawyer in California and try to get out of it all and was going to sue the prosecutor for giving his name out, so that is the mess Trent was trying to talk about. Anyway, I never met Tommy, but I do know Trent so wanted to say this. I hope I can say this and don't get called names because I took this a different way.

You just proved yourself to be a liar too. You "think" to much obviously. Prove that I said such nonsense. What I said is I did not know Tommy was arrested until I talked to a reporter. I did talk to the police back in 2007 or 2008 and gave them my statement(no, it may not have been written but they sure heard my story). She (the reporter) never came to my door! Never said I was going to sue the prosecutor either. It is none of your business why I hired attorneys.

Quit being like Sam and tell the whole truth. It makes you look less than intelligent. You just like Sam proved yourself to be another uninformed liar.

You brought this up so it's your duty to prove them or you can be like the rest spout off at the mouth then run and hide!

[Alex L. Walker]

It doesn't sound like a threat to me because I know Trent and he isn't like that. I can't imagine him threatening anybody. I have read the whole conversation now, ....

Have you read the message that Trent deleted?

... and that is why I think he was just trying to say all of the people who know and love Tommy can't all be crazy. I think the part about ending up in a mess was warning him to think because of all of the people here who hate Tommy and Pickle being out for blood .

And who said Pickle is out for blood? Have you read the false, defamatory things Trent said about Pickle?

Alex wouldn't tell Trent what happened but was saying he never wrote a statement for the police of filed charges and didn't know about anything until a reporter came to his door.

A reporter showed up at his door? How did the reporter know who he was, and where he lived? When was this?

I am sure that he/she has not read that comment so its a lie to say that he/she has read the "whole conversation." It's just another anonymous subhuman liar.

[Harley]

Alex, Why are you calling me a liar and subhuman? That is what I was afraid of and why I wasn't posting here before. I am not trying to be mean to you. It's just I do know Trent. I don't know why what I said about him made you mad at me. It is true I do think, but not too much I think. I did not remember right about the door part. I am very sorry. You told him you got called by a reporter.  Maybe you are right that why you hired attorneys is not my business, but I didn't say anything about you hiring attorneys.  I don't like being called a liar when I am not lying. I did read the whole discussion. I didn't get it from Trent or talk to him about this. I was asking somebody else I know about all this and they answered the questions they knew about. They gave me a copy of the discussion that's how I read it all. I will ask and see if I can post it all because they won't come here and do it.  I do know you said this part that I was talking about. That shouldn't make you mad.


As far as me talking to Bob Pickle, yes, I have talked to Bob. However, not
to the extent that people think I have.
As far as the trial, I do not know much. I have not been communicated
with since the arrest. Let me say this, and it is nothing different then what
I told Brad, so I think I can say it.
I did call the detective from fair fax county two years ago. I never pressed
formal charges; actually I never pressed them at all. I had no idea that
Tommy was going to be arrested until after it happened.
I want to make that point crystal clear. That I did communicate with the
police detective, but never met her, nor did I write or file any charges or
statements to her, but the phone conversations.
I have hired attorneys, who are looking into the case, but this has been
since the charges were brought. Honestly, I was advised that it was in my
best interest to get legal counsel so that is what I did. To be honest with
you, how I learned of Tommy’s arrest was a news reporter who called me.
Like I said, I never pressed formal charges. However, I feel compelled to
cooperate with the police.

[Alex L. Walker]

Alex, Why are you calling me a liar and subhuman? That is what I was afraid of and why I wasn't posting here before. I am not trying to be mean to you. It's just I do know Trent. I don't know why what I said about him made you mad at me. It is true I do think, but not too much I think. I did not remember right about the door part. I am very sorry. You told him you got called by a reporter.  Maybe you are right that why you hired attorneys is not my business, but I didn't say anything about you hiring attorneys.  I don't like being called a liar when I am not lying. I did read the whole discussion. I didn't get it from Trent or talk to him about this. I was asking somebody else I know about all this and they answered the questions they knew about. They gave me a copy of the discussion that's how I read it all. I will ask and see if I can post it all because they won't come here and do it.  I do know you said this part that I was talking about. That shouldn't make you mad.


As far as me talking to Bob Pickle, yes, I have talked to Bob. However, not
to the extent that people think I have.
As far as the trial, I do not know much. I have not been communicated
with since the arrest. Let me say this, and it is nothing different then what
I told Brad, so I think I can say it.
I did call the detective from fair fax county two years ago. I never pressed
formal charges; actually I never pressed them at all. I had no idea that
Tommy was going to be arrested until after it happened.
I want to make that point crystal clear. That I did communicate with the
police detective, but never met her, nor did I write or file any charges or
statements to her, but the phone conversations.
I have hired attorneys, who are looking into the case, but this has been
since the charges were brought. Honestly, I was advised that it was in my
best interest to get legal counsel so that is what I did. To be honest with
you, how I learned of Tommy’s arrest was a news reporter who called me.
Like I said, I never pressed formal charges. However, I feel compelled to
cooperate with the police.

Then you need to learn how to read Mrs. Harley:

My definition of "formal charges" is what an ordinary person would consider. They  never asked me if I wanted to press charges as most police agencies do. However, I gave them my statement and obviously they thought that was enough! No, at that point I had never met her (the detective) in person.  Where do I say that I am going to sue the prosecutor in that? Where does it say the reporter came to my door? Does it not say that I am cooperating with law enforcement? Yes, I was unaware of Tommy's arrest until I received a few phone calls one of those being from the reporter.

Again, you say you read the whole discussion. Your lying again I know for a fact that you did not see the deleted comment Trent wrote that has since that time been recovered.

Did you get this from the same person who claims that they talked to my mother? After I had given you her information to do it yourself? If so, Mrs. Harley you need a better source of information!!

[tinka]

Harley,

It is impossible to take people at face value and think you know them no more then you can claim that TS and DS is not guilty no matter how much you "think" or take notice of just face value. One does not ever being a christian want to believe the worst but when the evidence is there and you still don't except it because of "love of face value" there is extreme problem that you do not listen or read the examples of Biblical experiences. You end up as a human sympathizer that Satan uses the most against Christians. You must realize that none of this would be on here to talk about in dismay and deceivement if there was no documents, victims of many telling the same story that each did not know of each other. So it is evident that your sympathies are based on face value not accepting what sickness is in the mind or hearts that only God knows and brings to light the "Devil's folly" within the biggest and worse situations of all "Worldwide SDA religion" but the "tree grew" and black, molded "nuts" that nobody can eat is everywhere fallen and it does appear always that the majority is wrong.... No wacky hanky panky, no smacky lacky.

edited for switched letters and added s

[Harley]

Alex, Why are you calling me a liar and subhuman? That is what I was afraid of and why I wasn't posting here before. I am not trying to be mean to you. It's just I do know Trent. I don't know why what I said about him made you mad at me. It is true I do think, but not too much I think. I did not remember right about the door part. I am very sorry. You told him you got called by a reporter.  Maybe you are right that why you hired attorneys is not my business, but I didn't say anything about you hiring attorneys.  I don't like being called a liar when I am not lying. I did read the whole discussion. I didn't get it from Trent or talk to him about this. I was asking somebody else I know about all this and they answered the questions they knew about. They gave me a copy of the discussion that's how I read it all. I will ask and see if I can post it all because they won't come here and do it.  I do know you said this part that I was talking about. That shouldn't make you mad.


As far as me talking to Bob Pickle, yes, I have talked to Bob. However, not
to the extent that people think I have.
As far as the trial, I do not know much. I have not been communicated
with since the arrest. Let me say this, and it is nothing different then what
I told Brad, so I think I can say it.
I did call the detective from fair fax county two years ago. I never pressed
formal charges; actually I never pressed them at all. I had no idea that
Tommy was going to be arrested until after it happened.
I want to make that point crystal clear. That I did communicate with the
police detective, but never met her, nor did I write or file any charges or
statements to her, but the phone conversations.
I have hired attorneys, who are looking into the case, but this has been
since the charges were brought. Honestly, I was advised that it was in my
best interest to get legal counsel so that is what I did. To be honest with
you, how I learned of Tommy’s arrest was a news reporter who called me.
Like I said, I never pressed formal charges. However, I feel compelled to
cooperate with the police.

Then you need to learn how to read Mrs. Harley:

My definition of "formal charges" is what an ordinary person would consider. They  never asked me if I wanted to press charges as most police agencies do. However, I gave them my statement and obviously they thought that was enough! No, at that point I had never met her (the detective) in person.  Where do I say that I am going to sue the prosecutor in that? Where does it say the reporter came to my door? Does it not say that I am cooperating with law enforcement? Yes, I was unaware of Tommy's arrest until I received a few phone calls one of those being from the reporter.

Again, you say you read the whole discussion. Your lying again I know for a fact that you did not see the deleted comment Trent wrote that has since that time been recovered.

Did you get this from the same person who claims that they talked to my mother? After I had given you her information to do it yourself? If so, Mrs. Harley you need a better source of information!!

No, it was not the same person. I hope you can understand me, Alex. I am not accusing you. I am not trying to argue with you. I am sorry you are trying to do that with me. I am sorry I made you mad. I don't think it is good to try to talk when people are mad or being upset and calling names, so I won't. I am not ever going to argue with you either. I don't like that. I am still going to ask if I can post the discussion so people can know by themselves what was said. I think I need to because you keep calling me a liar about it.  I think if people are talking, they need to know what they are talking about. That is all I will do or say here about all this from now on.

[Alex L. Walker]

Alex, Why are you calling me a liar and subhuman? That is what I was afraid of and why I wasn't posting here before. I am not trying to be mean to you. It's just I do know Trent. I don't know why what I said about him made you mad at me. It is true I do think, but not too much I think. I did not remember right about the door part. I am very sorry. You told him you got called by a reporter.  Maybe you are right that why you hired attorneys is not my business, but I didn't say anything about you hiring attorneys.  I don't like being called a liar when I am not lying. I did read the whole discussion. I didn't get it from Trent or talk to him about this. I was asking somebody else I know about all this and they answered the questions they knew about. They gave me a copy of the discussion that's how I read it all. I will ask and see if I can post it all because they won't come here and do it.  I do know you said this part that I was talking about. That shouldn't make you mad.


As far as me talking to Bob Pickle, yes, I have talked to Bob. However, not
to the extent that people think I have.
As far as the trial, I do not know much. I have not been communicated
with since the arrest. Let me say this, and it is nothing different then what
I told Brad, so I think I can say it.
I did call the detective from fair fax county two years ago. I never pressed
formal charges; actually I never pressed them at all. I had no idea that
Tommy was going to be arrested until after it happened.
I want to make that point crystal clear. That I did communicate with the
police detective, but never met her, nor did I write or file any charges or
statements to her, but the phone conversations.
I have hired attorneys, who are looking into the case, but this has been
since the charges were brought. Honestly, I was advised that it was in my
best interest to get legal counsel so that is what I did. To be honest with
you, how I learned of Tommy’s arrest was a news reporter who called me.
Like I said, I never pressed formal charges. However, I feel compelled to
cooperate with the police.

Then you need to learn how to read Mrs. Harley:

My definition of "formal charges" is what an ordinary person would consider. They  never asked me if I wanted to press charges as most police agencies do. However, I gave them my statement and obviously they thought that was enough! No, at that point I had never met her (the detective) in person.  Where do I say that I am going to sue the prosecutor in that? Where does it say the reporter came to my door? Does it not say that I am cooperating with law enforcement? Yes, I was unaware of Tommy's arrest until I received a few phone calls one of those being from the reporter.

Again, you say you read the whole discussion. Your lying again I know for a fact that you did not see the deleted comment Trent wrote that has since that time been recovered.

Did you get this from the same person who claims that they talked to my mother? After I had given you her information to do it yourself? If so, Mrs. Harley you need a better source of information!!

No, it was not the same person. I hope you can understand me, Alex. I am not accusing you. I am not trying to argue with you. I am sorry you are trying to do that with me. I am sorry I made you mad. I don't think it is good to try to talk when people are mad or being upset and calling names, so I won't. I am not ever going to argue with you either. I don't like that. I am still going to ask if I can post the discussion so people can know by themselves what was said. I think I need to because you keep calling me a liar about it.  I think if people are talking, they need to know what they are talking about. That is all I will do or say here about all this from now on.

Just so you know you told another lie too.

In your last post you said this:

but I didn't say anything about you hiring attorneys.

Which in fact is another lie. Earlier you said this:

I think Alex said to someone that he was going to see a lawyer in California and try to get out of it all and was going to sue the prosecutor for giving his name out,


What discussion are you reffering too? If you are reffering to the discussion between me and Trent then by all means post it! It won't prove half the stuff your spouting off.

Are you willing to admit that you have not seen the "whole conversation" as you claim?

[Harley]

Alex, Why are you calling me a liar and subhuman? That is what I was afraid of and why I wasn't posting here before. I am not trying to be mean to you. It's just I do know Trent. I don't know why what I said about him made you mad at me. It is true I do think, but not too much I think. I did not remember right about the door part. I am very sorry. You told him you got called by a reporter.  Maybe you are right that why you hired attorneys is not my business, but I didn't say anything about you hiring attorneys.  I don't like being called a liar when I am not lying. I did read the whole discussion. I didn't get it from Trent or talk to him about this. I was asking somebody else I know about all this and they answered the questions they knew about. They gave me a copy of the discussion that's how I read it all. I will ask and see if I can post it all because they won't come here and do it.  I do know you said this part that I was talking about. That shouldn't make you mad.


As far as me talking to Bob Pickle, yes, I have talked to Bob. However, not
to the extent that people think I have.
As far as the trial, I do not know much. I have not been communicated
with since the arrest. Let me say this, and it is nothing different then what
I told Brad, so I think I can say it.
I did call the detective from fair fax county two years ago. I never pressed
formal charges; actually I never pressed them at all. I had no idea that
Tommy was going to be arrested until after it happened.
I want to make that point crystal clear. That I did communicate with the
police detective, but never met her, nor did I write or file any charges or
statements to her, but the phone conversations.
I have hired attorneys, who are looking into the case, but this has been
since the charges were brought. Honestly, I was advised that it was in my
best interest to get legal counsel so that is what I did. To be honest with
you, how I learned of Tommy’s arrest was a news reporter who called me.
Like I said, I never pressed formal charges. However, I feel compelled to
cooperate with the police.

Then you need to learn how to read Mrs. Harley:

My definition of "formal charges" is what an ordinary person would consider. They  never asked me if I wanted to press charges as most police agencies do. However, I gave them my statement and obviously they thought that was enough! No, at that point I had never met her (the detective) in person.  Where do I say that I am going to sue the prosecutor in that? Where does it say the reporter came to my door? Does it not say that I am cooperating with law enforcement? Yes, I was unaware of Tommy's arrest until I received a few phone calls one of those being from the reporter.

Again, you say you read the whole discussion. Your lying again I know for a fact that you did not see the deleted comment Trent wrote that has since that time been recovered.

Did you get this from the same person who claims that they talked to my mother? After I had given you her information to do it yourself? If so, Mrs. Harley you need a better source of information!!

No, it was not the same person. I hope you can understand me, Alex. I am not accusing you. I am not trying to argue with you. I am sorry you are trying to do that with me. I am sorry I made you mad. I don't think it is good to try to talk when people are mad or being upset and calling names, so I won't. I am not ever going to argue with you either. I don't like that. I am still going to ask if I can post the discussion so people can know by themselves what was said. I think I need to because you keep calling me a liar about it.  I think if people are talking, they need to know what they are talking about. That is all I will do or say here about all this from now on.

Just so you know you told another lie too.

In your last post you said this:

but I didn't say anything about you hiring attorneys.

Which in fact is another lie. Earlier you said this:

I think Alex said to someone that he was going to see a lawyer in California and try to get out of it all and was going to sue the prosecutor for giving his name out,

I will try and explain. I was not lying. I was not talking about you hiring attorneys. I don't know if you ever saw an attorney in California. I was just told you said that is what you were going to do. I was told you said you were going to sue because your name got released. I was thinking that is how the reporter knew to contact you? If you say you didn't say these things than you say you didn't. I am not trying to argue or say to you that you are lying. I am not going to say the other people were lying either. How can I decide that. There are two different stories. That is all. I didn't know you had a different story till now.  I am not going to say anything else here because it's getting worse. I can't keep trying to explain things because people keep accusing me wrong. Now Tinka is trying to argue and accuse me about things I didn't say either. About things I never said. I don't think this place or the way people talk and treat each other is good for anybody. I'm sorry I said anything at all now. I can tell that it is not wanted or needed here.

[Alex L. Walker]

Are you willing to admit that you have not seen the "whole conversation" as you claim?

[tinka]

Now Tinka is trying to argue and accuse me about things I didn't say either. About things I never said. I don't think this place or the way people talk and treat each other is good for anybody. I'm sorry I said anything at all now. I can tell that it is not wanted or needed here.

Do you know what the word accusations mean applying to you and where do you make your statement valid when I am writing in general terms? I was speaking in general facts. This is what happens when all is presumed as in your post to Alex. You admitted all presuming of heresay instead of reading actual copies. Do you know how easy it is to rearrange a copy of something after the original?? But yet claim accusations against you!! I was simply stating that "one" cannot take people at face value.  You are a total presumer. Now that is an accusation using the word "You".

[Harley]

Are you willing to admit that you have not seen the "whole conversation" as you claim?

Alex I have seen the whole discussion from Facebook between you and Trent that took place in private messages back and forth. That is what I said. That is what I meant. If there was some comment somewhere else that wasn't included? Than no, I wasn't saying I saw that, because I didn't know about it. If you think it should be included? Than you should let people see it. If you wanted to, you could also show people your discussion with Trent, and what you both said. Now can you please stop being mad, and bugging me about this? I did read it, but I don't want to talk about it anymore. This is not healthy to me.

[Alex L. Walker]

I just want it to be clear that I never stated I was flying out to California to see an attorney about suing the prosecutor. That is a bold face lie from someone. The thing is you are just as guilty as them for repeating it, Harley.

I have hired attorneys out of California and New York and someone may end up being sued but it won't be the prosecutor.

[ex3abnemployee]

Jamie posted earlier Alex's responce to this that Trenton Chance said.

Trenton said:

I'm going to have to advise you to start thinking for yourself and don't let others (Pickle, etc) think for you. You don't need legal counsel. Tommy is the one who got arrested. If anything you should do your best to remove any damage you may have done and back out of this before Tommy does die at the hands of injustice.

Do you know how many thousands of people love Tommy Shelton? Do you know how many people are completely nuts of those thousands? Who knows what mess you may end up in. Lawyers want a case that can get attention and cash. It's their job. That's a no brainer. Pickle is out for blood - that... that is pure evil.

This was Alex's responce:

As I stated, I am cooperating with the police. I have no reason not too. All I can say is that yes, something did happen. I'm not sure what you are meaning by damages that I have done.

Yes, I do realize that Tommy is loved by many. Like I also stated, I do not communicate with Bob on a regular basis.

I thought it to be only fair to allow everyone to see what prompted that explanation.

Sounds like a threat to me.

 It doesn't sound like a threat to me because I know Trent and he isn't like that. I can't imagine him threatening anybody. I have read the whole conversation now, and that is why I think he was just trying to say all of the people who know and love Tommy can't all be crazy. I think the part about ending up in a mess was warning him to think because of all of the people here who hate Tommy and Pickle being out for blood . Alex wouldn't tell Trent what happened but was saying he never wrote a statement for the police of filed charges and didn't know about anything until a reporter came to his door. I think Alex said to someone that he was going to see a lawyer in California and try to get out of it all and was going to sue the prosecutor for giving his name out, so that is the mess Trent was trying to talk about. Anyway, I never met Tommy, but I do know Trent so wanted to say this. I hope I can say this and don't get called names because I took this a different way.

Well well, the return of Harley. Do you realize the Bible says we will be held accountable for every idle word? That includes what we post anonymously on internet boards.

[Harley]

I just want it to be clear that I never stated I was flying out to California to see an attorney about suing the prosecutor. That is a bold face lie from someone. The thing is you are just as guilty as them for repeating it, Harley.

I have hired attorneys out of California and New York and someone may end up being sued but it won't be the prosecutor.

I told you I don't want to argue. You keep arguing. I asked you to stop bugging me and talking about it because  I don't want to talk about it anymore. You keep bugging me and talking to me about it. Now you are calling me a liar again, but you left part out Alex. I said: "I think Alex said to someone that he was going to see a lawyer in California and try to get out of it all, and was going to sue the prosecutor for giving his name out, so that is the mess Trent was trying to talk about." I was wrong and I mispoke when I said prosecutor". I am sorry! Alex what I thought I was told was that there were two different things you said at different times to your family. That is why I thought that. Here is what was said to me: "a family member stated that Alex told them that he was going to sue the detective for revealing his name as one of the victims.  He also told three other family members that he was going to California to talk with a lawyer to see how he could get out of this case with Tommy Shelton and said he did not want to be involved."
I don't know why they would lie. I didn't know you were going to call your family liars until you answered. I told you I wasn't calling you a liar. I told you I am not calling them liars. I don't know!You need to talk to them. Not me! You keep calling me a liar too, and I am not a liar and I have not been lying! So I am not talking to you anymore. You can just Kiss ma grits from now on.

P.S.
I have to edit my post because I forgot. Here is all the discussion I said I read, because I did read it all. I don't lie! The person I got it from said I could post it because it will help people know who is lying about others  I also got told that my coming here was wrong. It was, because I just feel hate here. So I am leaving again, and I will try not to even read here like I did before.

[Nosir Myzing]

 It doesn't sound like a threat to me because I know Trent and he isn't like that. I can't imagine him threatening anybody. I have read the whole conversation now, and that is why I think he was just trying to say all of the people who know and love Tommy can't all be crazy. I think the part about ending up in a mess was warning him to think because of all of the people here who hate Tommy and Pickle being out for blood . Alex wouldn't tell Trent what happened but was saying he never wrote a statement for the police of filed charges and didn't know about anything until a reporter came to his door. I think Alex said to someone that he was going to see a lawyer in California and try to get out of it all and was going to sue the prosecutor for giving his name out, so that is the mess Trent was trying to talk about. Anyway, I never met Tommy, but I do know Trent so wanted to say this. I hope I can say this and don't get called names because I took this a different way.

Well well, the return of Harley. Do you realize the Bible says we will be held accountable for every idle word? That includes what we post anonymously on internet boards.

It also includes your every idle word, Duane Clem. It includes every sharp tongued insult and personal attack and all the mean name calling and bitter judgments you post here and say elsewhere against others.

I am sure you realize the bible says this also:


Psa 15:      
A psalm of David. Who may worship in your sanctuary, Lord? Who may enter your presence on your holy hill?
Those who lead blameless lives and do what is right, speaking the truth from sincere hearts.
Those who refuse to slander others or harm their neighbors or speak evil of their friends.
Those who despise persistent sinners, and honor the faithful followers of the Lord and keep their promises even when it hurts.
Those who do not charge interest on the money they lend, and who refuse to accept bribes to testify against the innocent. Such people will stand firm forever. .

Ps 64
1
O God, listen to my complaint.
Do not let my enemies' threats overwhelm me.
2
Protect me from the plots of the wicked,
from the scheming of those who do evil.
3
Sharp tongues are the swords they wield;
bitter words are the arrows they aim.
4
They shoot from ambush at the innocent,
attacking suddenly and fearlessly.
5
They encourage each other to do evil
and plan how to set their traps.
"Who will ever notice?" they ask.
6
As they plot their crimes, they say,
"We have devised the perfect plan!"
Yes, the human heart and mind are cunning.
7
But God himself will shoot them down.
Suddenly, his arrows will pierce them.
8
Their own words will be turned against them, destroying them.
All who see it happening will shake their heads in scorn.
9
Then everyone will stand in awe,
proclaiming the mighty acts of God,
realizing all the amazing things he does.