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[ex3abnemployee]

Forget these two clowns, Alex. You don't owe them any explanations. They just cant accept the fact that Tommy is an admitted child molestor and no one is intimidated by Danny anymore.

[Alex L. Walker]

Forget these two clowns, Alex. You don't owe them any explanations. They just cant accept the fact that Tommy is an admitted child molestor and no one is intimidated by Danny anymore.

You are correct.

[tinka]

Di,

Apparently they don't get it because their apples, oranges, and limes of "Sybil" character are fighting their selves to which can claim the whole tree.

Williams,     by all means the correct analysis of "character building" is to follow instructions of  God's Word. You use wrong applications that only fit your multiple characters.   It is very evident the instructions do not get past your rules and dense weeds.  Your following your own corrupt self perfection developing a "fruitloop" the tree just can't grow. It is more then obvious once you sprout...

[Murcielago]

 

Di,

Apparently they don't get it because their apples, oranges, and limes of "Sybil" character are fighting their selves to which can claim the whole tree.

Williams,     by all means the correct analysis of "character building" is to follow instructions of  God's Word. You use wrong applications that only fit your multiple characters.   It is very evident the instructions do not get past your rules and dense weeds.  You following your own corrupt self perfection developing a "fruitloop" the tree just can't grow. It is more then obvious once you sprout...

[Murcielago]

While we are considering, why don't we consider what might qualify as witness tampering. Would threatening (by direct or indirect means) to launch a campaign to discredit someone in their family, their circle of friends, their community, their church, and/or their job qualify? And what if that campaign were launched? Would that qualify? What if their job was threatened? What if someone took measures to try to make that person lose their job? Would that count? Would attempts to isolate that person in the context of friends, family and community qualify?

Why don't we consider both Danny Shelton and Brenda Walshes answers  in light of the questions actually asked of them , those being in regard to their contacting or attempting to contact you and intimidate and or physically threaten you and try to  force you to change your testimony which is witness tampering? Why don't we consider their answers in light of the questions asked of them in regards to Bob Pickle's claims that they were trying to get you to drop charges? Why don't we consider them in light of your roommate and friend's personal claims that he could testify that they did contact you and that it is documented when they never even attempted to do so? Why don't we consider that neither Pickle nor Adam has a reason or call to make any such claims against them unless you told them that? And why don't all here, as well as myself look at the arguments you just made above and consider whats said, and whether they admit it  or or not acknowledge that your answers are evasive and not responsive to the allegations against others made on your behalf? Accusations most likely instigated and caused by yourself and your words to them? Why don't we all acknowledge that you can say, i don't always agree with Adam, and have, but have so far never posted any disagreement, and although you claim you aren't with Pickle, that you sought him out a year before the Prosecutor and State of VA filed charges against TS, and claim you NEVER did so and only talk to him through attorneys, yet here you are, in a forum owned by Pickle and parked on his server and dedicated to accusing 3ABN and finding them guilty, but claim you are just here innocently and didn't know that?

As I said, it stinks.

You and your buddy do not need to be here to seek justice, and indeed will never find it here, nor will you ever be taken seriously by one single 3ABN supporter while you are here aligned with and supporting 3ABN's enemies. You are known by your friends and what side you stand on.

[Adam]

This is just disgusting. Lies, lies, and more darn lies..........

[Bob Pickle]

Why don't we consider their answers in light of the questions asked of them in regards to Bob Pickle's claims that they were trying to get you to drop charges?

Jamie, not to belittle you, but you might want to consult a dictionary as to the definition of "or," for you seem to have trouble understanding the typical meaning of that word. Until then, please refrain from misconstruing what I said.

... although you claim you aren't with Pickle, that you sought him out a year before the Prosecutor and State of VA filed charges against TS, ....

Are you sure you got your time line right?

You and your buddy do not need to be here to seek justice, and indeed will never find it here, nor will you ever be taken seriously by one single 3ABN supporter while you are here aligned with and supporting 3ABN's enemies.

Sounds like spin to me.

Why don't we just impose an outright ban on all enemies of 3ABN, and only allow discussion from enemies of child molestation, adultery, private inurement, deception, kickbacks, threatening non-Adventist preachers, firing whistleblowers, and taking your brother to court when that brother requested the opportunity to sit down and discuss concerns, as well as discussion from the friends of such perversities? Would that suit your fancy?

What percentage of "3ABN supporters" approve of such perversities?

[Bob Pickle]

What if their job was threatened? What if someone took measures to try to make that person lose their job? Would that count?

Good question. Anyone know?

[princessdi]

So, Bob, your questions/accusations of witness tampering did not include threats of any kind?  Simply asking them to not to testify does not count as tampering. 

[Bob Pickle]

Simply asking them may not be a violation of the statute, but my understanding is that there was intimidation or threats involved.

[princessdi]

I'm a hairstylist...well...retired hairstylist...........LOL!!!

Shabbat Shalom:  Do we have a Hebrew scholar here?    Perhaps only his barber (her hair dresser) knows.

[Sam]

I have to address something right here and now. I am getting sick of reading this same old line "about the character and testimony of the victims." None of you know the character of the victims. Have you ever met them?

I can testify to the fact that Alex's character is nothing like you claim. He is an outstanding citizen in his community and is truely involved in his church. Don't believe me? Come to where he lives and ask people, if they know Alex Walker. You will hear nothing but good from them.

So quit attacking someones "character" that you know nothing about.

Why don't you attack Tommy's character?  This may sound hateful and frankly I don't care. You all are deluded. Keep defending your admitted child predator. Just remember what the Bible says. -------------------

You know what I pray one day, none of your children are abused. Why? Mostly, because of the hurt that would be caused to them. Secondly, because you fools probably wouldn't believe them.

You all are sick and need Jesus !!!

My prayer is that you find him before it is everlasting to late!

---------- represents what I edited in disgust.

" I can testify to the fact that Alex's character is nothing like you claim."

What are you referring to amd talking about?

The truth is no one defending 3ABN was attacking Alex or his character, Adam, and no one defending 3abn even mentioned him by name or even accused him. NOT ONCE. Not one was doing so in any post you are replying to here. It was you who came here and brought him up and made his character and case an issue illiciting questions and answers from those you accused on his behalf. He claims you say as you choose, so do you, but it is obvious that you argue and present only what he tells you, as you aren't involved or a witness in his case, and haven't even met those you accuse and condemn and attack on his behalf.. Even here in this current discussion, no one mentioned Alex, but you came flying in to defend him and accuse and find fault with others. It's ridiculous as far as I am concerned. This is a forum against DS and 3ABN, yet here you and Alex are, and claim that attacking 3ABN and DS is not your purpose or agenda for being here.. It's NOT believable, sorry because  Alex approached Bob Pickle according to Bob, and according to Alex he never filed a complaint or report against Tommy Shelton with law enforcement, which he should have done if his purpose was legit. Instead of giving them a report he gave it to Bob Pickle... and claims he didn't even know there was a case against Tommy Shelton until a reporter approached him after Tommy's arrest claiming he was a complaintant.I can quote him about that if you or he want to dispute that,  so what are he and you doing here in a forum and posting against DS abd 3ABN, and attacking those defending them if your issue is Tommy Shelton and child abuse within the Church of God? IMO- IMHO, you and your arguments and protests and accusations about all this,  stink to high heaven!

You are a liar. That's all I have to say about that. I have never once posted anything about Danny Shelton or 3ABN. So quit lying. I am not here to attack 3ABN or Danny Shelton nor have I.

Wellll then,your mouthpiece, Adam, as Samuel Thomas has and he knows even less about Danny and 3abn than you do.


This is the only thing that I have posted in regards to Danny Shelton or anyone associated with 3ABN:

By the way Brenda Walsh DOES know who I am. It is also a lie for her to say she has never met me. That's all I'm going to say about that.


You posted that Brenda said this:

Brenda Walsh said "I have never met Alex, nor have I have talked with him, written him, or communicated with him in any way shape or form! What is interesting is how he even knows my name!!"

Brenda is lying here because she does know who I am and yes she has met me.

Now you are using pickle tactics. Let's examine this. Do you mean that you met Brenda back when you were 11 or 12 and helped your brother off and on one summer at 3abn? So that was about 12 years ago when you were just a kid and we all know Brenda meets thousands of kids every year, all over the world. So if this is when Brenda met you I hardly think you could call her a liar when 12 years later she doesn't remember Alex Walker as a kid. Now what would something that Brenda has no memory of have to do with her calling you now and intimidating you?  You are lying and you know it.
You posted that Brenda said this:

You also said that Danny said this:

Danny Shelton simply said " I have never talked to Alex" Ask Danny to define never. If he is saying it in the literal sense of the meaning than he too is a liar

Same deal here. It is possible that at the time you helped your brother, when you were a kid, you may have met Danny. Do you honestly think he would remember that? Give me a break!  And, again, what would that have to do with him intimidating you now? You don't seem to understand that leaving out key details to make a situation something that it isn't, is a lie.

As far as the last part of your post; I cannot discuss that. I have that same conversation you apparently have (between Trent and myself) as does my attorneys. I will not discuss that any farther.

Now I am done here. I do not have anything to prove to you anyway.

* The red is my responce to their statements.*

[ex3abnemployee]

My advice is to ignore all these anonymous trolls who are just phishing. They deserve NO explanations about anything.

[Alex L. Walker]

No, Sam. You are a liar again. First of all I was not 11 or 12 when I worked at 3ABN (shows how much you know.)It was also longer than one summer. And it was by far 12 years ago. I am surprised 3ABN does not keep better logs than that.

Truth of the matter is according to your own time line; Brad was still living in the state of Virginia so explain to me how that was possible? Again your facts are dead wrong.

As you said Sam:

You don't seem to understand that leaving out key details to make a situation something that it isn't, is a lie.

 Danny and Brenda are lying end of story. I have not just "met" Danny and Brenda. That's all the responce your getting.

Have I ever said that Danny or Brenda was trying to intimidate me? No, again your a liar.
(even if they have do you think I would tell you?   As I have stated everything is documented and given to the proper people.)

Your right, Duane. Sam just helped prove that they are an uninformed liar.

One more thing Sam are you willing to admit that you lied about Glenn Dryden kicking me out of Ezra? I think an apology will suffice.

Sam, I will not be responding to you anymore. In my book you are nothing but subhuman garbage.

[princessdi]

There ya go, Duane!  And to be fair, I am still wondering how folks got not only Danny, but Brandy and her child to take a paternity test.  I would not have dignified that one with even the slightest acknowledgement.  Folks to ask anything they want, doesn't mean you have to waste your breath answering them.

My advice is to ignore all these anonymous trolls who are just phishing. They deserve NO explanations about anything.