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[tinka]

Sam,

You should save yourself some shame as I am very sure educated people in all countries are very aware that 3abn has had obscene damages done to and by theirselves. Otherwise there would be no saga, no documents, no divorce, no adultery, no remarriage and divorce again, no DNA testing or reason for it and no moleststation of TS or TS on 3abn.  and now that concocted letter from TS. What a bunch of stuff.   and he had followers that read this stuff - no wonder a problem here. They believed this stuff.  After all if they would have shun all appearances of evil nothing could have been said, viewed told or seen. But too many  ate too much feed and there it was all showing on the ground.    and the    s hopping down all different trails with the hounds running in hot pursuit over the "misuse of women, victims  and funds".   No Christian wanted to destroy 3abn as their honest wishes was for it to go to all the world. But  jumped into the wrong bunny nest. and the rest is history....as the bed bugs run for covers.

This post is just as looney as Your post is.

[Murcielago]

And as usual, your heart for victims and those who have had to endure a lot is a sad under reaction to what normal people have, and in your words "hardly unusual..." What's worse, the perpetual attacks on the victims of a pastor who has admitted to victimizing the very people you consistently attack for reacting to what he did to them are the reflection of something most normal people find very disturbing... but again, hardly unusual.

From where I am sitting, your melodrama and over reaction and false judgment is what is sad, but hardly unusual...

[Murcielago]

And btw, Pat, I have been quite amused at the new names you and Nosirmyzing chose. Thats ok, I'm sure that the eagles will soar and spot the critters that have tried to use what will worry and cause ulcers or try to make their prey rethink their resolve. Thats what the eagles do. They spot and catch. So we can all sit back and watch as they do their thing with the critters who try to intimidate with the things that are close to the prey. I am sometimes reminded of Stockholm as people are driven toward the end light. Of course in the light Stockholm is harder to achieve than it is in confines.

[Adam]

In the case of Tommy Shelton and 3ABN, the person who hired him knew his problem. When Tommy worked with the children on Kid's Time, Danny knew the potential harm that could occur to one or more of the children. He did not inform the parents, he allowed his brother to be in a position where he could become a predator. Why?

Warning. You are in no position to speak for Danny Shelton and claim to know what he knew, or didn't know, or what he did or didn't do.

letter from Tommy Shelton: (dated Feb 2007)

Secondly, he states that he is doing what he can to protect young people. What young people?

I have worked for the last 6 years [at 3ABN] in an environment where there are NO young people.

(I understand that your pastor has mentioned the 3ABN Kids Time program - that these children could possibly be in danger. Kids Time hasn’t even been taped in two years, - It’s all reruns - and when it was being taped, it was in a studio two miles from were I worked and when I did go over to accompany a guest, it was in a studio filled with parents and camera people for an hour or so two or three times per season).

Pat, Pat, Pat,

You are not going to tell me that Danny didn't know. That is hogwash.

Adam,

I take it you know Danny Shelton personally?  No you don't so how can you talk as if you have an intelligent opinion on the matter when you no nothing about 3abn, Danny or anything else.  You show your ignorance when you say Tommy had easy access to children at 3abn. That says a lot.  Anyone, and I mean anyone that has ever been to a kids time production would laugh you out of town.  There is a control room full of people who see everything through the camera's eyes.  There is a crew out on the set.  There are parents everywhere..on the set and off.  The kids that are off the set are with their parents until their turn comes to be on the set. The kids that are on the set are being taped on television. The Mitcheff sisters are there doing the programs. There are so many people you can't turn around.  Tommy's involvment was for the Mitcheffs to call him and ask him to come on the set and play a song for a kid to sing. Get it?  Come on the set, where the kid, the crew, the Mitcheffs and the Control room are all watching, sit down at the piano, play the song, the floor director says Cut, and Tommy leaves.  Had any of you ever been there you might, might, have an opinion but since you haven't been there you have no credibility in your opinions that are based on nothing.

And I should believe anything you say, why? You're a proven liar. You have some NERVE coming on here calling anyone else a liar, Sam!  There is no other words to describe you except a cowardly full of crap, snake. Until you learn the difference between a lie and actuality, Just shut up.

[Murcielago]

Let Sam, Pat, and the others keep it up. In the end, the eagles will roar and then the dining begins.

Danny knew about Tommy. All the family knew about Tommy. How do I know? I heard it from a Shelton...

Sister, it is well past the time for your slander, defamation and lies comes to an end.  Yes we all know you "heard it from a Shelton" which we know is Linda.  On the slim chance that it wasn't Linda, there are literally hundreds of Shelton first cousins, 2nd cousins, 3rd cousins who may or may not have the name Shelton and because of jealousy or some other motive may actually tell you something that isn't true!  Can you believe it? There are people that actually lie about such things. You should know you are an expert.

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Sam if anyone is a slanderer and liar it is you. You went to far slandering and lying on my mother. Keep it up your just adding fuel to the fire. Watch and see....

[GRAT]

And btw, Pat, I have been quite amused at the new names you and Nosirmyzing chose. Thats ok, I'm sure that the eagles will soar and spot the critters that have tried to use what will worry and cause ulcers or try to make their prey rethink their resolve. Thats what the eagles do. They spot and catch. So we can all sit back and watch as they do their thing with the critters who try to intimidate with the things that are close to the prey. I am sometimes reminded of Stockholm as people are driven toward the end light. Of course in the light Stockholm is harder to achieve than it is in confines.

I'm not sure I would use the term amused but I find it interesting that they chose names that are unisex and common.

[Murcielago]

Again, Adam, let not your heart be troubled. This is a simple cult specimen exhibiting the behaviours it has been cultured for. As a creature of a cult variety it is simply doing what comes natural to it. Its environment and input have molded this odd creature you see and its weird outbursts are only the common thing where it comes from. What you see is a good example of what some strange little cults produce. If, some day, you decide to do a documentary on the strange and weird, you will have lots of material just from that one little specimen.

And I should believe anything you say, why? You're a proven liar. You have some NERVE coming on here calling anyone else a liar, Sam!  There is no other words to describe you except a cowardly full of crap, snake. Until you learn the difference between a lie and actuality, Just shut up.

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[Adam]

Your right, George. He's still a coward.

Sam- You better hope I NEVER meet you in person, because I would have a hard time not knocking you on your tail.

[princessdi]

No proof whatsoever, just a suspicion on my part, because of the way things generally happen in these abuse cases, both sexual and physical. 

I am going to apologize for any misunderstanding my comment may have caused, before even reading subsequent posts...........

[waitingforjustice]

3D or as you go by now "Pat Williams" I see you are back on the forums again. From what I can see you had your last post as 3D on July 13 then you were back on again under your new name around July 19. I am just curious where you were during those 6 days? My curiosity is peaked because it is during some of that time frame that TS was in the hospital. Also, what is up with the name change. I am inclined to presume that that is not your real name either.

I guess "Pat" the reason I am being so presumptuous is because you were calling Alex Walker out by name accusing others of being him when you yourself are not willing to use your own name. It does make others wonder as to your true identity. 

I also noticed that Sam didn't post from July 13 to 20 and then on the July 21 started posting again.

Is it just me or do others find this interesting. I wonder if these two posters are immediate family members of TS. It would sure make a lot of sense if that were the case. The mystery continues................... 

[tinka]

waitingforjustice,
that is really good observance but also their details on here are intimate too many times for your guess to be not correct.

[Johann]

3D or as you go by now "Pat Williams" I see you are back on the forums again. From what I can see you had your last post as 3D on July 13 then you were back on again under your new name around July 19. I am just curious where you were during those 6 days? My curiosity is peaked because it is during some of that time frame that TS was in the hospital. Also, what is up with the name change. I am inclined to presume that that is not your real name either.

I guess "Pat" the reason I am being so presumptuous is because you were calling Alex Walker out by name accusing others of being him when you yourself are not willing to use your own name. It does make others wonder as to your true identity. 

I also noticed that Sam didn't post from July 13 to 20 and then on the July 21 started posting again.

Is it just me or do others find this interesting. I wonder if these two posters are immediate family members of TS. It would sure make a lot of sense if that were the case. The mystery continues................... 

Interesting observation!

[Johann]

waitingforjustice, that is really good observance but also their details on here are intimate too many times for your guess to be not correct.

Yes, wondering. . .

[princessdi]

Just another incident of "foot in mouth disease" on my part.  I would also like to apologize for stating that Duane said that he was abused by TS when he was a minor.  I have come to the knowledge that is part of my statements were not true.

Having said that, I stick by the rest of my statements that even though the actual sexual abuse was committed once Duace was the "age of consent"(this is also a joke to me because unless we are talking about the age of 21, I know of no parent who would feel better about something like this happening to their child...because they were 18.  BTJM), the emotional and mental abuse started long before then. 

Once again, sorry for mistakenly misrepresenting the truth, and any confusion that misstatements created.

No proof whatsoever, just a suspicion on my part, because of the way things generally happen in these abuse cases, both sexual and physical. 

I am going to apologize for any misunderstanding my comment may have caused, before even reading subsequent posts...........

[Adam]

Fact of the matter is Duane was not the only one who was abused by this animal. (Yes, Lilly I call em' like I see em') There was another boy who was overage who was also abused by Tommy.

Anyone who don't think that abuse can happen whether your the age of consent or not really needs help! What is even more sick and disgusting is you defend this man when he has abused YOUNG BOYS! Young boys who don't even know what sex is. May God forgive you before it's everlasting to late!

Hell is real people. You are condoning acts that the Bible speaks against, sexual immorality. 1 Thessalonians 4. It also clearly states that God is the avenger!