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Re: Sheltons express support for Tommy's victims
« Reply #60 on: July 28, 2010, 07:45:40 AM »

You are correct, Grandma Nettie. However, it's not just an SDA problem. I hear it from everywhere. Funny thing is, people NEVER use Scripture when they say you MUST have a degree before you preach or teach. To be honest, I find it highly offensive.
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Re: Sheltons express support for Tommy's victims
« Reply #61 on: July 28, 2010, 08:21:06 AM »

Duane, if God has given you the gift of preaching, then you PREACH! No amount of school can make you a good minister or preacher. the Holy Spirit does that. Keep Preachin till the Lord calls you HOME!
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Re: Sheltons express support for Tommy's victims
« Reply #62 on: July 28, 2010, 08:39:27 AM »

In the case of Tommy Shelton and 3ABN, the person who hired him knew his problem. When Tommy worked with the children on Kid's Time, Danny knew the potential harm that could occur to one or more of the children. He did not inform the parents, he allowed his brother to be in a position where he could become a predator. Why?

Warning. You are in no position to speak for Danny Shelton and claim to know what he knew, or didn't know, or what he did or didn't do.

letter from Tommy Shelton: (dated Feb 2007)

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Secondly, he states that he is doing what he can to protect young people. What young people?

I have worked for the last 6 years [at 3ABN] in an environment where there are NO young people.

(I understand that your pastor has mentioned the 3ABN Kids Time program - that these children could possibly be in danger. Kids Time hasn’t even been taped in two years, - It’s all reruns - and when it was being taped, it was in a studio two miles from were I worked and when I did go over to accompany a guest, it was in a studio filled with parents and camera people for an hour or so two or three times per season).
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Re: Sheltons express support for Tommy's victims
« Reply #63 on: July 28, 2010, 09:10:32 AM »

Pat, your reply to Sister is a bit evasive. Did Danny Shelton know that Tommy was a sexual predator and/or pedophile or not?

Why did Danny or Tommy or Walt not tell Principal O'Brien and Pastor Lomacang that there was a sexual predator and pedophile near the church school and conference academy satellite campus? Wasn't that wrong on their part?

You cite Tommy's open letter, which was apparently intended to motivate the Dunn Loring church to muzzle Glenn Dryden. Can Tommy's word in that letter be trusted?
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Re: Sheltons express support for Tommy's victims
« Reply #64 on: July 28, 2010, 09:20:59 AM »

Danny knew about Tommy. All the family knew about Tommy. How do I know? I heard it from a Shelton...
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« Reply #65 on: July 28, 2010, 10:26:41 AM »

Timing? Lots of spinning possible when taken out of chronology.

In the case of Tommy Shelton and 3ABN, the person who hired him knew his problem. When Tommy worked with the children on Kid's Time, Danny knew the potential harm that could occur to one or more of the children. He did not inform the parents, he allowed his brother to be in a position where he could become a predator. Why?

Warning. You are in no position to speak for Danny Shelton and claim to know what he knew, or didn't know, or what he did or didn't do.

letter from Tommy Shelton: (dated Feb 2007)

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Secondly, he states that he is doing what he can to protect young people. What young people?

I have worked for the last 6 years [at 3ABN] in an environment where there are NO young people.

(I understand that your pastor has mentioned the 3ABN Kids Time program - that these children could possibly be in danger. Kids Time hasn’t even been taped in two years, - It’s all reruns - and when it was being taped, it was in a studio two miles from were I worked and when I did go over to accompany a guest, it was in a studio filled with parents and camera people for an hour or so two or three times per season).
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Re: Sheltons express support for Tommy's victims
« Reply #66 on: July 28, 2010, 11:03:43 AM »

Danny knew about Tommy. All the family knew about Tommy. How do I know? I heard it from a Shelton...


I was told about Tommy when I was at 3ABN in 2006.  I remember an employee telling me that Tommy lived in Kentucky because he wasn't allowed to live in Illinois due to pedophilia issues.  I guess if the employees knew, Danny knew...



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Re: Sheltons express support for Tommy's victims
« Reply #67 on: July 28, 2010, 11:22:11 AM »

Danny knew about Tommy. All the family knew about Tommy. How do I know? I heard it from a Shelton...

Somebody might claim that Danny did not know that anybody else knew.
I was told about Tommy when I was at 3ABN in 2006.  I remember an employee telling me that Tommy lived in Kentucky because he wasn't allowed to live in Illinois due to pedophilia issues.  I guess if the employees knew, Danny knew...




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Re: Sheltons express support for Tommy's victims
« Reply #68 on: July 28, 2010, 11:48:08 AM »

In other words, Danny Shelton knew that Tommy Shelton was a pedophile in 2006, or before, but thought that no one else knew?

In that case he might have thought that he could keep it a secret.
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Re: Sheltons express support for Tommy's victims
« Reply #69 on: July 28, 2010, 12:03:33 PM »

In the case of Tommy Shelton and 3ABN, the person who hired him knew his problem. When Tommy worked with the children on Kid's Time, Danny knew the potential harm that could occur to one or more of the children. He did not inform the parents, he allowed his brother to be in a position where he could become a predator. Why?

Warning. You are in no position to speak for Danny Shelton and claim to know what he knew, or didn't know, or what he did or didn't do.

letter from Tommy Shelton: (dated Feb 2007)

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Secondly, he states that he is doing what he can to protect young people. What young people?

I have worked for the last 6 years [at 3ABN] in an environment where there are NO young people.

(I understand that your pastor has mentioned the 3ABN Kids Time program - that these children could possibly be in danger. Kids Time hasn’t even been taped in two years, - It’s all reruns - and when it was being taped, it was in a studio two miles from were I worked and when I did go over to accompany a guest, it was in a studio filled with parents and camera people for an hour or so two or three times per season).

Pat, Pat, Pat,

You are not going to tell me that Danny didn't know. That is hogwash.
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Re: Sheltons express support for Tommy's victims
« Reply #70 on: July 28, 2010, 01:10:33 PM »

The argument about no complaints or convictions demonstrates the greatest amount of incapacity to comprehend reality we experience in these discussions. . .



Incapacity.....I would be surprised if DS had any college or advanced education. It appears in his course of speaking he doesn't. I believe if your teaching, preaching, a higher education is a must. Maybe one can be good at reading, math, and spelling and teach it but the people skills is what comes into play and very important that college can swift out the unstable.
Hmmm...that's twice now I've been told I should not be a minister.

Whooopps, Was not referring to anyone special or you Duane, but in general I believe this is how it should work. Especially in these days when people hit you at every angle one must be educated before hand not to get your self into situations.  My daughter tells me of unbeliveable stuff that she has to take care of not only with students but the parents, She is quite smarter then I could be as her handling of matters I could not think of.  The school (public) uses her a lot to deal with situations. I might add that when she attended the University that her private studies were her books she included to education was EGW. She wrote alot on making that her way to be and she is an outstanding teacher.  I find that one of the greatest satisfactons in life Duane is to be a people observer and have a talent that knows how to help someone in the right way and help them in what ever is possible to do.  It's like the work of an ant.... ;) I think you have had now experience to do much for many.
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Re: Sheltons express support for Tommy's victims
« Reply #71 on: July 28, 2010, 01:17:05 PM »

Well I'm certainly glad I have your approval.
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Re: Sheltons express support for Tommy's victims
« Reply #72 on: July 28, 2010, 01:27:21 PM »

Well I'm certainly glad I have your approval.
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Re: Sheltons express support for Tommy's victims
« Reply #73 on: July 28, 2010, 01:29:46 PM »

Common sense and trust in the Divnine is worth more than a College degree.

Well I'm certainly glad I have your approval.
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Re: Sheltons express support for Tommy's victims
« Reply #74 on: July 28, 2010, 01:30:10 PM »

I am not SDA, I am Southern baptist.  In the Southern baptist association I belong too, they do not require you to have an education. However, some churches may require it, but the association does not.



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