Adam, Alex told people to call his mom. He told me how to. I never called her, but it is not true that nobody talked to her. I know two people who did and that is why I never had to call. I think it is fair to say you did not talk to her though because of what you are writing. I hope I can say that here because it is what I know now. I was feeling bad about all the things I heard and trying to figure out if I should write anything here. It is sad when people lie and it is sad what people do. I feel bad also that Alex said to find out and that that people can't say what they heard now. I don't know all about Tommy Shelton or the victims, but I do know something is wrong when people don't allow people to answer or start attacking them when they do. That is the thing that makes me believe those people are maybe the ones lying because they don't want to hear anything but what they say. Just because people don't want to hear about what another person believes doesn't mean people should answer them by making accusations about them. I think that is wrong no matter who does it. Jesus didn't do that. He answered what was being said by the bad people. He never acted like them when they were mean to him and said bad or mean things about him, but he always did tell them and everybody the truth even if they didn't like it and thought it was mean. You were nice to me before but I don't think you are being nice to other people in your posts and it makes me feel bad. I am sorry to say this but I have to because I don't think people are acting right. Even when we are right we have to say it nicely.
Well Harley, all I can say is that Alex's mother says NO ONE has contacted her. I believe her.
So Duane Clem, did she say this to you personally? I know she did NOT.
Alex and Adam seem to be claiming she has only spoke to a sister and Grandmother, (but adam admits he hasn't talked to her) they also claim she hasn't talked to anyone else about Alex's case, or the statement Alex gave to Bob Pickle, they clarify it by saying she has received no phone calls, but I personally know of others who she has talked to, and I know she is a good woman, and did not say that no one has contacted her or that she has not talked to any one else about all of this becaus... she has, and I do not believe she would lie.
I do beleve this hurts her and is difficult and she needs a lot of prayer on her behalf, as do all involved here...
So your saying that my mother lied to me? She has told me on numerous occasions that she has NOT talked to anyone, but my sister and grandmother. Yes, it is true she has talked to Brad and Tommy's attorney. But she denies that any of you have contacted like you say you have. She is also appalled by the comment that was made by Sam, "that she was going to testify that I qualified for the mental hospital." I guess you are saying that she lied to my grandmother as well. My grandmother called and asked her who she had talked too and she told her the same thing. Do I need to have one of you contact my grandmother? I have already offered my mother's information what more do you want?
How dare you insinuate my mother is a liar, when she tells me she hasn't been contacted than she hasn't. This has nothing to do with my mother. She shouldn't even be involved. Of course she is tore up but I am not the one that has involved her in it. She will admit to that!
Calm down. No one. Not a one has insinuated or claimed your mom is a liar. The only one suggesting that, is you and Adam. Of course if the case proceeds to trial she will be involved, she will testify and all will know what she has to say. If you don't want her involved before then and wish to keep saying people shouldn't bother her due to her health? Then I suggest you stop talking to people (ask Adam to stop bringing it up) and stop causing them to post about how the Defenses witnesses will be used for you ( Johann, Adam, Pickle.. etc) and stop posting and asking people to call her. Does that seem logical to you?
By the way, Sam is not Brad. I know Sam. I have been a guest of Sam's. I have sat at Sam's table in Sam's house with friends and family after the Missus of the house prepared a bountiful and nutritious spread. I have been in Sam's living room as Sam logged in on the computer and posted here on adventtalk. Sam is NOT Brad.
And your mother speaks to people, people she knows, people who love her and people she loves, that doesn't always register as "Contact from an outsider" or a phone call from one. You really need to think about that, for the quotes attributed to your Brother were all that came from him. The rest of your family also have the right to speak. You and your claims, and Adam are not a sacred cow. You are posting on a public internet forum.
You started a snowball here, all based on a lie.You claimed Sam was Brad. Next thing is Adam is posting accusations against your brother.( which he got from you) and talking about your mom (also from you) It is being claimed Brad is the source of all information against you. (not true) It is being claimed there is witness tampering going on. etc etc etc... but Adam also claims he has not talked to your mother, nor ever met Brad, so his source is YOU
That is all 100% false.
All here, right or wrong have the right to say they believe you and your statement to Pickle. They have the right to say they believe TS guilty, right? Your brother when asked has the right to also say the opposite, right? He has the right to say what Adam posted about him was a lie, right?
Well, this whole scale attack of him seems to indicate that you all think he doesn't have that right.
To say he is the "source against you"? (false) To instigate, and enable attacks against him because he answered questions about public posts here about him? (wrong)
To have accusations of infidelity posted here against him? (false)
To watch people post his marriage is falling apart,(false) and that his opinion about you and the denial of Adams posted claims about him are "witness tampering"? (FALSE!)
To see your brother condemned and attacked falsely just because he says he doesn't believe you and says the public accusations against him are not true? How dare you? YOU will not only have to answer to God, but you will answer to your family, and family is a gift from God.
Believe that. They love you like no other, except for the True Father and son.
I can not understand why you allowed all of this against your brother or why you would promote and condone lies on your behalf.
It is despicable, and is sin, and you will answer. Despite that, I am praying that you open your eyes.
"Oh what a tangled web we weave. When first we practice to deceive."