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[Bob Pickle]

Harley,

What do you think about the above post attacking me for what I wrote?

In the post above by RJP, has he remembered his own fallen, sinful nature and remembered that he is unworthy to stand in his own defense in the heavenly court when he treats a Christian brother this way?

I think this borders on the blasphemous. Shall we also call Charles Manson a Christian brother? Adolph Hitler? Stalin? Pol Pot?

How in the world can anyone call a sexual predator, an admitted pedophile, someone who preyed on children and young adults for decades, a Christian brother? The apostle Paul is crystal clear: "Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person." If Tommy is still a member of a church somewhere, it is because that church refused to do its duty and obey Paul's instruction.

Any sin Tommy has committed is no different than any sin Robert Jude Pickle has committed.

The person who wrote this is sick. Sexual preying upon children is no different than any sin I have committed? John is quite clear that all sins are not the same. (1 Jn. 5:16, 17).

Another question is why is this anonymous person calling me by a name I have not used anywhere here or on BlackSDA or on Maritime?

But note that the press release in question stated that there were going to be testimonies from survivors of pastoral abuse. That being so, it is only appropriate that Tommy Shelton's victims be invited and encouraged to participate. Otherwise, the entire event is but a farce. That is the context of my comments.

What exactly was the poster objecting to? The idea of Tommy's mug shot behind bars? If so, what was wrong with that? If Tommy's victims are not allowed to speak, their shirts can speak instead of their voices.

[Alex L. Walker]

Adam, Alex told people to call his mom. He told me how to. I never called her, but it is not true that nobody talked to her. I know two people who did and that is why I never had to call. I think it is fair to say you did not talk to her though because of what you are writing. I hope I can say that here because it is what I know now. I was feeling bad about all the things I heard and trying to figure out if I should write anything here. It is sad when people lie and it is sad what people do. I feel bad also that Alex said to find out and that that people can't say what they heard now. I don't know all about Tommy Shelton or the victims, but I do know something is wrong when people don't allow people to answer or start attacking them when they do. That is the thing that makes me believe those people are maybe the ones lying because they don't want to hear anything but what they say. Just because people don't want to hear about what another person believes doesn't mean people should answer them by making accusations about them. I think that is wrong no matter who does it. Jesus didn't do that. He answered what was being said by the bad people. He never acted like them when they were mean to him and said bad or mean things about him, but he always did tell them and everybody the truth even if they didn't like it and thought it was mean. You were nice to me before but I don't think you are being nice to other people in your posts and it makes me feel bad. I am sorry to say this but I have to because I don't think people are acting right. Even when we are right we have to say it nicely.

You just proved yourself to be a liar.

Alex has never came on here and said that his mother was going to testify on his behalf, actually it's quite the opposite. Lie #1.

Brad Walker (Alex’s brother) also stated, "Alex is lying again, I have never talked with any lawyer nor had anything documented from my conversation with Alex"
No, Alex is not lying he did indeed have his conversation documented by a local attorney. Brad called him four days after Tommy was arrested. Alex waited until Brad left a voice meassage, then went up to his local attorney and had it put on speaker phone. That conversation was documented!

***********************.

That's funny because Alex hardly has ANY contact with his family. He may see them two or three times a year. The only ones he communicates with his parents and grandma. Again, another lie.

Of course Alex's mother was going to testify against him. I have talked to one family member myself (not Alex) who told me that his mother was told that Brad and Valerie had talked about moving. Alex's mother was afraid if she did not testify Brad and Valerie would move to Mississippi along with Tommy and Carol. Again, Alex never said his mother was going to testify against him. You are a liar. It was clearly stated just because a witness is called for the defense does not mean they would not help the prosecution!!!

I would like to see your proof, to your nasty allegations, if you can't prove them then shut up.







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It in fact is true that NOONE called my mother, Harley. I talked to her just yesterday and she said that NOONE had called her. The only two people she had talked to about this situation was my grandma and one of my sisters. SO NO she was not contacted.

You can try to play me out as a liar, but I will not sit here and let you make my mother into a liar. Sorry- but when she tells me she has not been contacted, I believe her. ALSO she has not even been home that much....and it's kind of funny that most of the time when I try to call her she don't answer. BUT you are telling me she will answer for you?

Please.

Also Harley I gave you her information so you can call her. So why don't you? Don't take other peoples word for it. If you really want the truth you will do your own research.

[Johann]

Harley,

Yours seems to be just the right Christian attitude. It shows me you love the Lord and want to do His will, and you would like to be His servant and give a helping hand in solving this great problem you have just encountered.

This is just what I wanted to do as this problem struck me in my face about 6 years ago. I pleaded with Danny Shelton. I pleaded with Walt Thompson. I tried to get them to look at it just like you would like to do right now. Yes, I talked with Linda, but that was no problem at all, being such a sweet Christian herself, and she was willing to do almost anything to save her marriage, to restore the whole situation.

You may have discovered that the real problem started when a demon appeared to Brenda Walsh at night, and she followed the prodding of that demon.

At that time I asked Walt Thompson if he really wanted the demon to guide them through the crisis, and his reply was that if the demon would help them they would let him. I could not believe that this would ever come from a Christian Seventh-day Adventist ministry, but is seems like they made their choice.

You mentioned the case with Jesus and Mary, but Mary never said she'd take whatever help she could get from Jesus if she could also let the demon help her.

3ABN has never said they'll stop getting that help from the demon. If they would, and would dedicate their lives to serve Jesus and the truth a great victory could be gained.

When I see how they are fighting to justify the kind of life Tommy Shelton has lived in stead of following in the footsteps of Jesus in asking forgiveness for what has been done, except in some rare cases where it seems like he has been cornered - then I see no spirit of Jesus Christ prevailing in their hearts.

We all have skeletons in our closets, and we have to let the Holy Spirit do the cleansing.

At a meeting I had with some of the leaders at 3ABN back in 2004 I was asked why I kept supporting Linda. I was given the advise by these people that it would be more expedient for me to leave her alone because I would never get any appreciation for the work I was doing. It is true that I have never received an appreciation from a great amount of people, and some resent it very much. I am not asking for the approval of people. I am only asking what would Jesus do?

Jesus tells the parable of the Good Samaritan. When I have seen Linda being devoured by demons I do not ask the opinion of people - I ask myself what Jesus would have done. Would the Good Samaritan leave the suffering victim bleeding beside the road? Does the Good Samaritan ask the opinion of people and what appreciation he will get for helping the victim he finds?

So, my dear Harley, are you asking us to forget the parable Jesus told us of the Good Samaritan and leave the bleeding sufferers behind, just because the devourers call themselves members of the Seventh-day Adventist Church and demand recognition as proclaimers of the truth?

God forbid.

[Harley]

Adam, Alex told people to call his mom. He told me how to. I never called her, but it is not true that nobody talked to her. I know two people who did and that is why I never had to call. I think it is fair to say you did not talk to her though because of what you are writing. I hope I can say that here because it is what I know now. I was feeling bad about all the things I heard and trying to figure out if I should write anything here. It is sad when people lie and it is sad what people do. I feel bad also that Alex said to find out and that that people can't say what they heard now. I don't know all about Tommy Shelton or the victims, but I do know something is wrong when people don't allow people to answer or start attacking them when they do. That is the thing that makes me believe those people are maybe the ones lying because they don't want to hear anything but what they say. Just because people don't want to hear about what another person believes doesn't mean people should answer them by making accusations about them. I think that is wrong no matter who does it. Jesus didn't do that. He answered what was being said by the bad people. He never acted like them when they were mean to him and said bad or mean things about him, but he always did tell them and everybody the truth even if they didn't like it and thought it was mean. You were nice to me before but I don't think you are being nice to other people in your posts and it makes me feel bad. I am sorry to say this but I have to because I don't think people are acting right. Even when we are right we have to say it nicely.

You just proved yourself to be a liar.

Alex has never came on here and said that his mother was going to testify on his behalf, actually it's quite the opposite. Lie #1.

Brad Walker (Alex’s brother) also stated, "Alex is lying again, I have never talked with any lawyer nor had anything documented from my conversation with Alex"
No, Alex is not lying he did indeed have his conversation documented by a local attorney. Brad called him four days after Tommy was arrested. Alex waited until Brad left a voice meassage, then went up to his local attorney and had it put on speaker phone. That conversation was documented!

***********************.

That's funny because Alex hardly has ANY contact with his family. He may see them two or three times a year. The only ones he communicates with his parents and grandma. Again, another lie.

Of course Alex's mother was going to testify against him. I have talked to one family member myself (not Alex) who told me that his mother was told that Brad and Valerie had talked about moving. Alex's mother was afraid if she did not testify Brad and Valerie would move to Mississippi along with Tommy and Carol. Again, Alex never said his mother was going to testify against him. You are a liar. It was clearly stated just because a witness is called for the defense does not mean they would not help the prosecution!!!

I would like to see your proof, to your nasty allegations, if you can't prove them then shut up.







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It in fact is true that NOONE called my mother, Harley. I talked to her just yesterday and she said that NOONE had called her. The only two people she had talked to about this situation was my grandma and one of my sisters. SO NO she was not contacted.

You can try to play me out as a liar, but I will not sit here and let you make my mother into a liar. Sorry- but when she tells me she has not been contacted, I believe her. ALSO she has not even been home that much....and it's kind of funny that most of the time when I try to call her she don't answer. BUT you are telling me she will answer for you?

Please.

Also Harley I gave you her information so you can call her. So why don't you? Don't take other peoples word for it. If you really want the truth you will do your own research.

Alex, I was not playing you out as a liar. I did not make your mother into a liar. I don't know why you would think that when I didn't even say what I heard. I was trying to speak generically. I am troubled here. Obviously somebody is lying. Right now I do not know who. I do not know if I will call your mom who is ill. I don't know if I should talk to anybody else about it either. I am not sure if I should even have come here. I can only say I will think on this and I will pray about it.

[Alex L. Walker]

Harley- I understand completely. I was not at all meaning that you was making me into a liar. I was speaking to all.

I am just troubled that people keep saying they have spoken to my mother when obviously they have not. My mother denies that fully.

I know where the information is coming from and trust me it is not a reliable source. As this person has shown that he is by far fair.

What has been mentioned in previous post about my brother Brad is indeed true. Anyone who will call me shortly after Tommy's arrest and make the comments Brad made is not a good source of information.

While I understand that Brad is put in the middle of this and is trying to protect his marriage and employment does not mean it is right!


Brad did the Christian thing and called and appologized to me even thought it wasn't at all his fault. Now it seems those sentiments are no longer the same and that is troubling.

BTW, I still stand by what I say. If you would like to contact my mother I will be more than happy to point you in the right direction.  Also regardless what Jamie.Smith or Sam say there are also family members who stand by my side 100%. I will be more than happy for you to contact them as well.

[Harley]

Harley,

Yours seems to be just the right Christian attitude. It shows me you love the Lord and want to do His will, and you would like to be His servant and give a helping hand in solving this great problem you have just encountered.

This is just what I wanted to do as this problem struck me in my face about 6 years ago. I pleaded with Danny Shelton. I pleaded with Walt Thompson. I tried to get them to look at it just like you would like to do right now. Yes, I talked with Linda, but that was no problem at all, being such a sweet Christian herself, and she was willing to do almost anything to save her marriage, to restore the whole situation.

You may have discovered that the real problem started when a demon appeared to Brenda Walsh at night, and she followed the prodding of that demon.

At that time I asked Walt Thompson if he really wanted the demon to guide them through the crisis, and his reply was that if the demon would help them they would let him. I could not believe that this would ever come from a Christian Seventh-day Adventist ministry, but is seems like they made their choice.

You mentioned the case with Jesus and Mary, but Mary never said she'd take whatever help she could get from Jesus if she could also let the demon help her.

3ABN has never said they'll stop getting that help from the demon. If they would, and would dedicate their lives to serve Jesus and the truth a great victory could be gained.

When I see how they are fighting to justify the kind of life Tommy Shelton has lived in stead of following in the footsteps of Jesus in asking forgiveness for what has been done, except in some rare cases where it seems like he has been cornered - then I see no spirit of Jesus Christ prevailing in their hearts.

We all have skeletons in our closets, and we have to let the Holy Spirit do the cleansing.

At a meeting I had with some of the leaders at 3ABN back in 2004 I was asked why I kept supporting Linda. I was given the advise by these people that it would be more expedient for me to leave her alone because I would never get any appreciation for the work I was doing. It is true that I have never received an appreciation from a great amount of people, and some resent it very much. I am not asking for the approval of people. I am only asking what would Jesus do?

Jesus tells the parable of the Good Samaritan. When I have seen Linda being devoured by demons I do not ask the opinion of people - I ask myself what Jesus would have done. Would the Good Samaritan leave the suffering victim bleeding beside the road? Does the Good Samaritan ask the opinion of people and what appreciation he will get for helping the victim he finds?

My dear Mr Johann, I wasn't talking about any of this. It is important to you I can see. I am sure you believe you have good reasons for what you did and for what you believe but everybody else thinks they do too. I will just listen for awhile.

So, my dear Harley, are you asking us to forget the parable Jesus told us of the Good Samaritan and leave the bleeding sufferers behind, just because the devourers call themselves members of the Seventh-day Adventist Church and demand recognition as proclaimers of the truth?

God forbid.

No, Mr Johann. I was not asking that. I would never ask that. This is a war. So many are fighting and trying to destroy one another. So much is negative. So many are mean. So many fight below the belt.  I see both sides of the road covered in bleeding hurting people. I see so many casualties of this war, all hurt and bleeding and needing love and care. Maybe for you only one is laying by the side of the road bleeding and suffering. It is good to help the one, but she is not the only one. I think if you look up. I think if you really look around you you will see the others being beat up and hurt too.  

I am going to go back to just reading here once in awhile. Too much here is just negative and critical and doesn't help or heal anybody. That is contagious. We have to make the positive and good grooves in our brains deeper than the negative bad ones because the deepest grooves win and control our minds.

Phl 4:5        Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord [is] at hand.
Phl 4:6      Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
Phl 4:7      And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
Phl 4:8      Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things [are] honest, whatsoever things [are] just, whatsoever things [are] pure, whatsoever things [are] lovely, whatsoever things [are] of good report; if [there be] any virtue, and if [there be] any praise, think on these things.
Phl 4:9      Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

[Johann]

Excellent texts, Harley.

Harley,

Yours seems to be just the right Christian attitude. It shows me you love the Lord and want to do His will, and you would like to be His servant and give a helping hand in solving this great problem you have just encountered.

This is just what I wanted to do as this problem struck me in my face about 6 years ago. I pleaded with Danny Shelton. I pleaded with Walt Thompson. I tried to get them to look at it just like you would like to do right now. Yes, I talked with Linda, but that was no problem at all, being such a sweet Christian herself, and she was willing to do almost anything to save her marriage, to restore the whole situation.

You may have discovered that the real problem started when a demon appeared to Brenda Walsh at night, and she followed the prodding of that demon.

At that time I asked Walt Thompson if he really wanted the demon to guide them through the crisis, and his reply was that if the demon would help them they would let him. I could not believe that this would ever come from a Christian Seventh-day Adventist ministry, but is seems like they made their choice.

You mentioned the case with Jesus and Mary, but Mary never said she'd take whatever help she could get from Jesus if she could also let the demon help her.

3ABN has never said they'll stop getting that help from the demon. If they would, and would dedicate their lives to serve Jesus and the truth a great victory could be gained.

When I see how they are fighting to justify the kind of life Tommy Shelton has lived in stead of following in the footsteps of Jesus in asking forgiveness for what has been done, except in some rare cases where it seems like he has been cornered - then I see no spirit of Jesus Christ prevailing in their hearts.

We all have skeletons in our closets, and we have to let the Holy Spirit do the cleansing.

At a meeting I had with some of the leaders at 3ABN back in 2004 I was asked why I kept supporting Linda. I was given the advise by these people that it would be more expedient for me to leave her alone because I would never get any appreciation for the work I was doing. It is true that I have never received an appreciation from a great amount of people, and some resent it very much. I am not asking for the approval of people. I am only asking what would Jesus do?

Jesus tells the parable of the Good Samaritan. When I have seen Linda being devoured by demons I do not ask the opinion of people - I ask myself what Jesus would have done. Would the Good Samaritan leave the suffering victim bleeding beside the road? Does the Good Samaritan ask the opinion of people and what appreciation he will get for helping the victim he finds?

My dear Mr Johann, I wasn't talking about any of this. It is important to you I can see. I am sure you believe you have good reasons for what you did and for what you believe but everybody else thinks they do too. I will just listen for awhile.

So, my dear Harley, are you asking us to forget the parable Jesus told us of the Good Samaritan and leave the bleeding sufferers behind, just because the devourers call themselves members of the Seventh-day Adventist Church and demand recognition as proclaimers of the truth?

God forbid.

No, Mr Johann. I was not asking that. I would never ask that. This is a war. So many are fighting and trying to destroy one another. So much is negative. So many are mean. So many fight below the belt.  I see both sides of the road covered in bleeding hurting people. I see so many casualties of this war, all hurt and bleeding and needing love and care. Maybe for you only one is laying by the side of the road bleeding and suffering. It is good to help the one, but she is not the only one. I think if you look up. I think if you really look around you you will see the others being beat up and hurt too. 

I am going to go back to just reading here once in awhile. Too much here is just negative and critical and doesn't help or heal anybody. That is contagious. We have to make the positive and good grooves in our brains deeper than the negative bad ones because the deepest grooves win and control our minds.

Phl 4:5        Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord [is] at hand.
Phl 4:6      Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
Phl 4:7      And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
Phl 4:8      Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things [are] honest, whatsoever things [are] just, whatsoever things [are] pure, whatsoever things [are] lovely, whatsoever things [are] of good report; if [there be] any virtue, and if [there be] any praise, think on these things.
Phl 4:9      Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

[ex3abnemployee]

Adam, Alex told people to call his mom. He told me how to. I never called her, but it is not true that nobody talked to her. I know two people who did and that is why I never had to call. I think it is fair to say you did not talk to her though because of what you are writing. I hope I can say that here because it is what I know now. I was feeling bad about all the things I heard and trying to figure out if I should write anything here. It is sad when people lie and it is sad what people do. I feel bad also that Alex said to find out and that that people can't say what they heard now. I don't know all about Tommy Shelton or the victims, but I do know something is wrong when people don't allow people to answer or start attacking them when they do. That is the thing that makes me believe those people are maybe the ones lying because they don't want to hear anything but what they say. Just because people don't want to hear about what another person believes doesn't mean people should answer them by making accusations about them. I think that is wrong no matter who does it. Jesus didn't do that. He answered what was being said by the bad people. He never acted like them when they were mean to him and said bad or mean things about him, but he always did tell them and everybody the truth even if they didn't like it and thought it was mean. You were nice to me before but I don't think you are being nice to other people in your posts and it makes me feel bad. I am sorry to say this but I have to because I don't think people are acting right. Even when we are right we have to say it nicely.

Well Harley, all I can say is that Alex's mother says NO ONE has contacted her. I believe her.

[ex3abnemployee]

You may have discovered that the real problem started when a demon appeared to Brenda Walsh at night, and she followed the prodding of that demon.

At that time I asked Walt Thompson if he really wanted the demon to guide them through the crisis, and his reply was that if the demon would help them they would let him. I could not believe that this would ever come from a Christian Seventh-day Adventist ministry, but is seems like they made their choice.

Johann!!! Please tell me I'm misunderstanding this! Walt Thompson actually said that?

[Adam]

Jamie.Smith you have some NERVE to post what you did over at Cindy's site. You are a nasty distasteful gossiper.

Even if your allegation was true who cares?

I am shocked that you would even post such a thing as you have proven that you stand firmly in defense of not only a homosexual but an admitted sex pervert... by his own admission. Don't you think that is calling the kettle black?

Again, even if your allegation was true... We aren't the ones with felonies over our heads for child molestation.

And Cindy Conard, not suprising you would allow that to take place either. I am fully convinced you need Christ.

I find it even less suprising that Brad would allow that. As it seems he's your "contact man."

I will not even go over what has been previously addressed in previous post about Brad.

Also, I have never met Brad and Brad has never met me. Nor do I care to meet him after he's showed he's two faced.

I am going to use the common Shelton line...One that Trent Chance used when he made contact with Alex. "Those without sin cast the first stone."

[Adam]

Harley posted this:


Adam, Alex told people to call his mom. He told me how to. I never called her, but it is not true that nobody talked to her. I know two people who did and that is why I never had to call. I think it is fair to say you did not talk to her though because of what you are writing. I hope I can say that here because it is what I know now. I was feeling bad about all the things I heard and trying to figure out if I should write anything here. It is sad when people lie and it is sad what people do. I feel bad also that Alex said to find out and that that people can't say what they heard now. I don't know all about Tommy Shelton or the victims, but I do know something is wrong when people don't allow people to answer or start attacking them when they do. That is the thing that makes me believe those people are maybe the ones lying because they don't want to hear anything but what they say. Just because people don't want to hear about what another person believes doesn't mean people should answer them by making accusations about them. I think that is wrong no matter who does it. Jesus didn't do that. He answered what was being said by the bad people. He never acted like them when they were mean to him and said bad or mean things about him, but he always did tell them and everybody the truth even if they didn't like it and thought it was mean. You were nice to me before but I don't think you are being nice to other people in your posts and it makes me feel bad. I am sorry to say this but I have to because I don't think people are acting right. Even when we are right we have to say it nicely.





Harley, Harley, Harley.
No I have not talked to her just like none of you have.  Have I ever stated I have? Nope. Have you all stated you have? Yes.

So who's Lying? Alex's mother has made it clear that she has not heard from anyone, nor has she discussed this case with anyone. So someone's lying.....Anyone with a right mind would be able to pen point who that is!!!

So you are saying that you condone these festering lies to be stated about a victim that most of you don't even know?! How sick. God help us if that is the case.

[Adam]

Yes, in fact it did.

I believe I heard about that situation when I was there.  Seems to me she was the impetus for 3ABN disallowing mixed gender travel on road trips...

You really heard about it when you were there? That would be a bit weird.

So Linda gets axed and divorced because she talked too long on the telephone to a physician in a foreign country when Walt Thompson told her not to, but staff at 3ABN talk about Brad having an affair with "T" and neither Brad nor "T" get fired?

Sounds like when I got an email from an irate woman who was irate that another "T" had had an affair with her husband, that "T"'s own first cousin. When I tried to confirm the story with someone who worked at 3ABN at the time of the alleged incident, he/she knew exactly who I was talking about and said, "You could tell there was something going on between those two." To date I have yet to hear that either Shelton got in trouble for their alleged incestuous affair.

But back to Brad and his apparent attempts to tamper with a witness, his own moral difficulties, his apparent defense of pedophile Tommy Shelton, has anyone bothered to ask Brad if Tommy ever molested him in his younger years?

I'm not saying that Brad is a victim, because Tommy certainly didn't victimize every last boy around Ezra. (One I talked with said he knew Tommy was grooming him but it never went further than that.) I'm only asking whether anyone has ever asked Brad if he was ever victimized himself. If not, was he ever groomed?

A follow-up question if Brad says no could be, what would happen to your job if you said yes?

If Brad indeed said "yes" I think we know what would happen. Just as Brad has lied about his conversation with Alex. We all know why he's lying that conversation never occurred. Nice Try Brad....  I still can't help but wonder why Brad Walker was so willing to institutionalize his and Alex's other brother when allegations surfaced against him. My understanding is Brad was not even around when this suppose incident occurred. But he wasted no time buying a plane ticket and flying to Illinois from DunLoring Va. to have his brother admitted. Yet, through out the years Brad Walker has stood adamantly on Tommy's side. Even when Tommy has admitted his guilty. Yep, sounds to me like his marriage and employment are at stake.

It's still not too late to make some wrongs right.

[Bob Pickle]

While I understand that Brad is put in the middle of this and is trying to protect his marriage and employment does not mean it is right!

I don not know Valerie, but my guess is that she is not threatening Brad with divorce if he doesn't attempt to tamper with witnesses or smear victims or defend a pedophile.

[ex3abnemployee]

While I understand that Brad is put in the middle of this and is trying to protect his marriage and employment does not mean it is right!

I don not know Valerie, but my guess is that she is not threatening Brad with divorce if he doesn't attempt to tamper with witnesses or smear victims or defend a pedophile.

I've known Valerie since she was a very young girl and I can't honestly believe she would do that, either. However, I DO believe that Brad is under some SERIOUS pressure from someone or someones due to being in the family and being employed at 3ABN. I'm not at all defending his alleged comments about Alex, but I will say I do NOT envy the position he is in. No matter what he does, he'll be going against someone.

[ex3abnemployee]

Another thought about posts on here that came from the other site: Isn't it strange that all this time and even now they are making allegations and outright slander against certain ones in this forum, yet we get a mini-sermon from them on how WE need to "be like Jesus"?