Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Adam]

Sam, Sam, Sam. In fact yes, I do know Alex's mother. I also know that you are fabricating the truth.

First, You are in fact wrong when you say this is "Not an admission of guilt." Yes, it is!

Second, You state this:


All the talk about civil suits (which are always about money) are pipe dreams with the Sheltons financial situation. As the old saying goes "you can't get blood out of a turnip". Translated that means you can't get money where there is none. Not too many attorney's are going to take a case where you go after someone that has already been wiped out financially.

Sorry, Sam but attorneys have already been retained. So obviously they disagree with you.

Also, this talk about the prosecutor does not have enough evidence that is complete horse feathers.  I know for a fact that the prosecutor was going to have a hay day with  Alex's brother (Brad). Who called Alex and told him that he was sorry, and that he felt guilty about what happened. Not True? Yes, it is because that whole conversation was documented by a local attorney.  Brad also stated to Alex that he has never nor would he ever leave his son alone with Tommy. Is that not true either? Yes, it is because that was also documented.

I also know that one certain person who knows Tommy quite well was also going to testify against Tommy. Guess you failed to mention that huh?

The prosecutor was not at all worried about losing as no they did not have many witness, but they felt that the defense was calling people who would be beneficial to them. So why should they waste their money, when Tommy was bringing them anyway? Just because they are subpoenaed by the defense does not mean they would not help the prosecution!!!!

Sam you are grasping at straws. In some ways I really do hope that the judge rejects this deal. That way you can see what type of a case the prosecution really did have.

[Adam]

I forgot to say. About Tommy Shelton's background and criminal history, the Washington post
said when the judge asked the prosecutor "She said the only evidence would be the two men's testimony about events up to 15 years ago, that Shelton had not spoken to police and had no prior criminal record."

But what about the other cases and other victims will that be brought up too? Are they allowed to do that, or not? I don't know. I have questions about how this all works.

Harley:
The only victims that are allowed to testify are the ones that was abused in VA. Unless they put Tommy on the stand then they can call any victim that they chose.


Also, yes it is true that most of the prosecutions case will solely the victim's testimony.  As I stated above just because they were not the ones who subpoenaed certain individuals does not mean they would not have helped the prosecution.

Hope this helps!

[Bob Pickle]

IMO TS had many reasons to go along with that plea. He and his wife sold their Kentucky home to pay for a defense. They are tapped out financially and therefore cannot pay for 2 long drawn out trials.

So what? Didn't Ellen White write that we should be willing to die rather than sin, than commit a wrong act? Shouldn't Tommy, as a Church of God minister who has preached on sanctification, be willing to die rather than lie, rather than say he's guilty if he's not?

Besides, you've forgotten, Tommy could simply go pro se if he can't afford a lawyer. Or, the court could simply appoint him a lawyer.

[Bob Pickle]

I think he should already know about Alex's mom though if he is Alex's friend and he should know if Alex lies.

Alex is only one of 7 alleged victims I have personally spoken with. I've also spoken with the mother of an 8th, and an eye witness. It isn't reasonable, in my opinion, for anyone to suggest that that many people are all lying.

The alleged victims span roughly 15 years or so, and three or four states. They agree, sometimes, in the very lines Tommy would use when propositioning the boys. Conspiracy theorists might want to deny the obvious, but most will not.

[Adam]

I think he should already know about Alex's mom though if he is Alex's friend and he should know if Alex lies.

Alex is only one of 7 alleged victims I have personally spoken with. I've also spoken with the mother of an 8th, and an eye witness. It isn't reasonable, in my opinion, for anyone to suggest that that many people are all lying.

The alleged victims span roughly 15 years or so, and three or four states. They agree, sometimes, in the very lines Tommy would use when propositioning the boys. Conspiracy theorists might want to deny the obvious, but most will not.

Not to mention another victim who came forward just last week, after learning about the plea deal. I agree with you Bob, this talk that Tommy does not have enough money for defese, is pretty weak to say the least.

That is why public defenders are for. That is not an excuse Sam. Again, spitting in the air.  Hope he has a good attorney when the other is filed!!!!

Also, I have seen it read elsewhere that all these victims want is money. That is beyond stupid. But, you know what, Tommy didn't think twice about doing what he did. I don't think they should either!!

[Adam]

Sam:  Perhaps I am confused.  I responded from the belief that it was a sentencing hearing.  It the September 24 hearing is something else, I may have been confused.

Gregory, you are not confused at all Sam is. It is a sentence hearing. If the judge accepts the deal on that date, Tommy will be sentenced.

[Alex L. Walker]

Sam the more I think about it. The more I wonder what gives you the right to make statements for my mother? Unless you are Brad. If not you have NO business even bringing her in it.

Quit using my mother to attack me you coward. That is sick, but not suprising you would stoop that low.

I am on here now, so if you want to attack me go ahead, but you would be best advised to leave her out of it. There may be consequences for failing to do so.

[Nosir Myzing]

Sam, Sam, Sam. In fact yes, I do know Alex's mother. I also know that you are fabricating the truth.... I know for a fact that the prosecutor was going to have a hay day with  Alex's brother (Brad). Who called Alex and told him that he was sorry, and that he felt guilty about what happened. Not True? Yes, it is because that whole conversation was documented by a local attorney.  Brad also stated to Alex that he has never nor would he ever leave his son alone with Tommy. Is that not true either? Yes, it is because that was also documented.

Sam the more I think about it. The more I wonder what gives you the right to make statements for my mother? Unless you are Brad. If not you have NO business even bringing her in it. Quit using my mother to attack me you coward. That is sick, but not suprising you would stoop that low.

[ex3abnemployee]

Sam, Sam, Sam. In fact yes, I do know Alex's mother. I also know that you are fabricating the truth.... I know for a fact that the prosecutor was going to have a hay day with  Alex's brother (Brad). Who called Alex and told him that he was sorry, and that he felt guilty about what happened. Not True? Yes, it is because that whole conversation was documented by a local attorney.  Brad also stated to Alex that he has never nor would he ever leave his son alone with Tommy. Is that not true either? Yes, it is because that was also documented.

Sam the more I think about it. The more I wonder what gives you the right to make statements for my mother? Unless you are Brad. If not you have NO business even bringing her in it. Quit using my mother to attack me you coward. That is sick, but not suprising you would stoop that low.

Lay off the confused act. You know exactly what he's saying.

[Adam]

"Pat Williams" (lol) Are you that dense that you can't comprehend? If you are in the "loop" as much as claim, you should understand completeltely understand.

[princessdi]

Ok, so I would like to welcome all the new people.  LOL!!!  Enjoy!

[Adam]

BTW, if anyone is a "habitual liar" it would be Tommy Shelton. Someone who has lied over 30 years about their inappropriate relationships with young boys.

Thanks princessDi!

[ex3abnemployee]

BTW, if anyone is a "habitual liar" it would be Tommy Shelton. Someone who has lied over 30 years about their inappropriate relationships with young boys.

Thanks princessDi!

[Alex L. Walker]

Yes Pat Williams I said it. I think "Sam" is my brother Brad. If it isn't he/she has no business using my mother to attack me.

I find it funny that even though I am here you still attack me using my mother (not uncommon for cowards though) to attack me. Quit being cowards!  If you have something to say by all means spit it out.

As you can tell your fancy language and mind games have no baring on me.

[Nosir Myzing]

Entire post deleted due to inappropriate content.