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Re: Excerpts from an unpublished manuscript
« Reply #195 on: July 08, 2010, 05:52:32 PM »

I still never got an answer as to how Walt Thompson could make LS leave the state. Did he use a gun?, Blackmail? If he used these methods and Linda did not trust the local police, surely she could have gone to the State Police, the State Attorney,the State Representatives, the Governor? Surely DS didn not have all of them in his pocket.
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Re: Excerpts from an unpublished manuscript
« Reply #196 on: July 08, 2010, 06:00:19 PM »

I still never got an answer as to how Walt Thompson could make LS leave the state. Did he use a gun?, Blackmail? If he used these methods and Linda did not trust the local police, surely she could have gone to the State Police, the State Attorney,the State Representatives, the Governor? Surely DS didn not have all of them in his pocket.
Mrst53, we would probably be suprised at  who or what Danny (or should I say innocent donors who, some, give their last cents.) can buy.
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« Reply #197 on: July 08, 2010, 06:10:05 PM »

The Dream
Chapter 1
Continued...

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How had Linda's nightmare begun? Since the fall of 2003, Danny's demeanor toward Linda had been rapidly changing. She simply could not understand what could have caused this definite shift in his attitude toward her. At first it was small changes. Changes in behavior and attitude  that would have gone unnoticed by the casual observer, but after so many years of marriage were quite apparent to a devoted wife. Puzzled with these events and as they continued to escalate in both frequency and degree, Linda tried to consider every innocent possibility. Perhaps it could be midlife crisis? Danny was already in his fifties.

When Danny suddenly removed all his belongings from the bathroom they shared, stating that he needed more space, Linda didn't know what to think. Where other wives would consider his behavior suspicious and start questioning why, suddenly, after almost nineteen years of marriage, their husband needed more “space”, Linda did not. She just continued to pray and try to understand her husband's unusual behavior.

Linda loved and trusted Danny to a fault. Unfortunately, this unconditional trust and love for her husband would prove to be misplaced and become an entering wedge for a plan to remove her from her marriage and ministry. What should have been a strength in their relationship would be turned into a weakness, a blind spot where a deceiver would begin to spin a deadly web of lies, unbeknownst to his trusting victim. Linda's trusting nature and relative  naivety were to become the cornerstone upon which the entire structure of Danny's cleverly devised and executed plan to rid himself of her would be built. Linda's unconditional love and trust for her husband would become the Achilles heel that Danny had so diligently searched to discover. This  perceived “weakness” of Linda was very familiar to him. It was the key that allowed him to manipulate her throughout their marriage and the method he used to lock the door that kept his own extramarital friendships secret from her.




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Re: Excerpts from an unpublished manuscript
« Reply #198 on: July 09, 2010, 05:26:42 AM »

Well if your opinion is correct then the  music videos "that were gaining significant national attention" and "would have done well outside the SDA circles"  can still do well, "George", and should have already been. Linda has the rights to them, and has had that for 6 years now, and has also been receiving the income from selling that CD on her website the entire time. The one you claim "was outselling all the Shelton CDs." Good for her.

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Three Angels Broadcasting Network, Inc. ("Three Angels") and Linda Shelton ("Mrs. Shelton"), hereby agree to the following terms and conditions:


1. Three Angels agrees to pay Linda Shelton, within seven days of the signing of this document by both parties, the sum of $45,000. Three Angels agrees to transfer to Linda the rights, including the masters, to the five musical CD projects that she has had a primary role in (two solo projects and three duet projects with Danny and Linda) and the eight musical songs on video from the I Think About Grace album.



2. Three Angels agrees to pay Linda Shelton, within seven days of the signing of this agreement by both parties, a further sum of $45,000.



3. Three Angels also agrees to pay Linda Shelton $75,000 for each of the years 2005 and 2006. This money will be paid out in 24 equal installments ($6,250.00) beginning the first Monday of January, 2005, and continuing to be paid on the first Monday of each month for the next 23 months, ending with the payment on the first Monday of December 2006....





Although a credible source disagrees with Sam on the inventory matter, he makes several points here that I believe are factual. Credible sources will back up his statements about what the crew said, the internal disputes over the videos, and their lack of sales. On the other hand, my opinion is that the videos would have done well outside the SDA circles. I think they were probably too edgy for the 3ABN audience, which seems to prefer more straight forward perfomance and less drama. The crew were very creative and made remarkable products. In other venues I think those guys could be producing multi-million dollar videos.

IMO, there are a few simple answers. Tommy is a Shelton, and Linda is not. Linda had a CD the was outselling all the Shelton CDs. Linda had music videos out that were gaining significant national attention, and the Sheltons did not. She had to be put in her place and made to realize that as a non-Shelton, she was sub-Shelton in every way that really counts. Tommy may have his problems, but he always payed his obligant obeisance to his little brother. Tommy had his problems, but those boys should just get over it and grow up. Linda, well, it was unseemly that a non-Shelton should presume to Shelton greatness... an opinion anyway.


I would love for you to try and prove your statements "george".  In fact,inventory records will show exactly the opposite. If memory serves Linda only made 1 CD of her own..the rest was with Danny. The one she made that went along with her "video" caused nothing but grief with the public as no one could understand why she would waste money on a music video as if she were a rock star..or any kind of star at all. She wasn't, but thought she was. The crew that worked with her on the video said she wanted to spare no expense and wanted to be treated as a diva during the whole process.  Those videos did not sell and never would have. Those close to the couple said they had quite a bit of trouble over the video as Danny knew the 3abn viewers would not like the idea but, as usual, Linda insisted on having her own way.

As far as Walt Thompson making her "leave the state" that gave me a good chuckle. When Samuel said something didn't smell right...he was correct. He was smelling all the ridiculous lies about this subject. Use some good common sense people. Walt couldn't or wouldn't make anyone do anything.

edited to add clarifications.
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Re: Excerpts from an unpublished manuscript
« Reply #199 on: July 09, 2010, 05:55:17 AM »

I still never got an answer as to how Walt Thompson could make LS leave the state. Did he use a gun?, Blackmail? If he used these methods and Linda did not trust the local police, surely she could have gone to the State Police, the State Attorney,the State Representatives, the Governor? Surely DS didn not have all of them in his pocket.

Linda never left the state, nor was she ever asked to. She was offered an agreement by 3ABN but did not agree to it or even reply. Thus it wasn't binding. Dr T could not, and did not force her to do anything, it was her choice, just as it was his and the board's choice what to do, and how to proceed if she didn't agree.

Background to that and the proposed agreement are below.

Johann Thorvaldsson released this letter,(written before Linda's employment was terminated,or her position on the 3ABN board was removed. It has been published on various forums and websites (Pickle and Joy's save-3abn website being first and foremost) with commentary inserted - that commentary been deleted here so the original letter may speak for itself)

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------- Original Message --------
From: Walt Thompson
To: Johann Thorvaldsson
Subject: 3abn
Date: May 2004

If we like, we can continue to nurse this dialog of battle over Linda and involve the whole church and whole world in the warfare. Should we do so, God in His great mercy may still find a way to bring good out of it as He did when He took ancient Israel to Babylon. I would prefer that He have a more faithful people to give Him a better, more powerful witness.
I do not agree with your belief that Linda is being victimized.

But though we disagree we still need to work together to find solutions.

Accordingly, I would be pleased if you would submit to me in writing a comprehensive account of the allegations you have about the way 3ABN has treated Linda. I would like this to be comprehensive with whatever documentation you can provide so that we may assess it accurately.

Once this has been done, my request is that you discontinue further correspondence with Linda or anyone else regarding this matter. In this way we will have the information we need to act, and you will have opportunity to pursue your work of spreading the Good News to Europe. Our work there has been too long stagnate while we have been fighting.

It is my determination to give Linda every opportunity to restore her home and ministry should she be willing.

She has been offered a proposal whereby this may happen. Only she can decide what she will do with it, but all of us at 3ABN want her to choose right. All are desirous of helping her - NONE trying to hurt her.

She may disagree with our proposal, in which case she will be given opportunity to tell her side of the story before the board.

In fact, if she were to desire to bring her case to a neutral party of the Church - and accept the publicity such an event would generate - I would welcome it. When all is said and done, it is my intent that no one will be able to honestly say we have not done everything possible to save her and her place of service.

As you can confirm, I have not expressed any judgments about Dr. Abrahamson other than to say that he is in the wrong for continuing a relationship, even a doctor-patient relationship, that is destroying the very thing he is trying to save. Having said that, a continuation of communication between Europe and Linda will place the board in a place where we must deal with an insubordinate member of the organization. She has been asked on numerous occasions to discontinue the relationship, first by her husband who is also her superior in ministry, by her pastor, by her board chairman, and now by the committee of the board created to seek resolution. Likewise, both you and Dr. Abrahamson have defied our requests to cease communication with Linda. While I can forgive this action on the mistaken belief that it is helping Linda, there comes a point when defiance must be dealt with lest it destroy the whole organization. If you are so concerned about Linda, and I believe you are, you will encourage her to get help here and break off the relationship there. Certainly there are people in America that can give her the help she needs.

Thank you for helping me to meet with Dr. Abrahamson by phone. We had a good discussion that gave me opportunity to hear his side of the story, a thing I appreciate.

While we are going through this challenging time, please confine ALL further discussion about this matter to me or if unreachable, Bill Hulsey or Nick Miller (other members of the committee). In my mind this matter must not continue to spread - for the sake of Linda, 3ABN, and the world church and cause of God.

Your continued earnest prayers are cherished as we accept this responsibility.

Sincerely in Jesus' precious name,

Walt T


This email and letter were apparently furnished by Linda Shelton and published on the Save 3ABN website and also on BSDA and several other internet forums.

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From: Walt Thompson
To: [Alyssa]
Subject: Letter for Linda
Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 21:43:07 -0500

Dear Linda,
This is a copy of the letter that has been sent by FEDEX to you. While you may not understand now, someday you will realize that we are truly desirous of returning you to your home and ministry because we care about you. I plan to go to 3ABN tomorrow and will be available to talk with you if you have questions needing clarification.

Walt

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[FEDEX Letter]
May, 4, 2004

Walter Thompson MD
Chairman of 3ABN Board of Directors
- address removed -

Linda Shelton
Three Angel's Broadcasting Network
PO Box 220
West Frankfort, IL 62896

Dear Linda,


A committee representing the 3ABN board of directors has been selected and has met for the purpose of evaluating the present problem at 3ABN relating to your relationship to Danny and to the ministry of 3ABN - and seeking a resolution acceptable to all parties involved. This letter is intended to represent the will of the board.


Let me begin by expressing our gratitude to you for the part you have played at 3ABN for the past nearly twenty years. You have been an important part of the ministry from the beginning – a fact appreciated by us all. Accordingly, this letter is not written with the intent to destroy your home or your part in the ministry, but rather to rehabilitate and restore.


In accordance with this intent, we are offering the following proposal to you. We believe it has the potential of accomplishing the desired objectives, i.e., to save both your home and a place for you in this ministry. It would do so without making the details of this matter known to the full board or others.


Nor is this letter expressing an opinion regarding the nature of your relationship with Dr. Abrahamson. Whether or not this relationship has been immoral or not is not the issue of this document. The facts are that the relationship and your refusal to discontinue it in spite of repeated requests by Danny and our requests, has damaged both your family and 3ABN – a reality we must deal with in wisdom, love and compassion – but deal with, we must.


We are offering you a 30 day leave of absence with pay and full benefits - to begin at the time of receipt of this letter. During this time the following conditions must be met.


You will be relieved of all duties at 3ABN and will not appear at 3ABN other than to obtain items from your immediate office upon personal request from me. You will arrange to leave Southern Illinois at 3ABN expense for the duration. Both you and 3ABN need time to cool off.


You will agree in writing to cease all communication with Dr. Abrahamson, whether direct or indirect, whether by e-mail, telephone, letter or any other, or through Johann or any other third party. We are designating a period of 30 days, but with the intent this must be a life-long decision.


During this time you will not discuss the issues related to your relationship with 3ABN with anyone other than your immediate family, your professional counselors or representatives or members of the board of directors.


Since this time is recommended as a time for reflection and serious rehabilitation we are requesting that you arrange to receive professional help relating to the issues at hand. We are recommending Ron and Nancy Rocky to you. They have agreed to open their home to you and to give you personal help in dealing with the issues at the center of the present problems. It will be private and protected from the public eye such that neither your image nor reputation ought be damaged. Should you choose different professional help, it must be acceptable to this committee.


At the end of 30 days we will reassess the situation and make further recommendations as indicated.


The issues in this proposal are not negotiable. Should they be unacceptable to you – we hope sincerely they will be acceptable – we will proceed promptly with further investigation of the facts regarding the matter at hand. In that case we will need a list of witnesses you would like us to hear. We will offer Danny the same opportunity. Once we have had opportunity to hear the evidence, we will be in a better position to make recommendations to the full board based upon that evidence. Based on the facts we already know, however, we think pursuing such a course would make any future role for you at 3ABN unlikely.


That is why, Linda, we are pleading with you to accept this proposal for healing and restoration. This is God's ministry. He has chosen you to be a part of it. We want you to continue to be a part of it. But in order for that to happen really important things must change.


Sincerely,
Walter Thompson MD
Chairman of the Board of Directors, 3ABN Committee members include Nicholas P. Miller, Bill Hulsey and Kay Kuzma (by invitation)

Your signature here will confirm your agreement with this proposal. Please sign and return copy within 24 hours of receipt of this letter.

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Re: Excerpts from an unpublished manuscript
« Reply #200 on: July 09, 2010, 07:16:04 AM »

Before it starts again, and posters start protesting their outrage that 3ABN suggested counselors for Linda or in the alternative that she choose her own that they could also agree to. I would like to add here, that this was due to Linda herself saying she needed help and someone to talk to as she claimed her phone calls with  Dr A, after starting about Nathan progressed to talking to him about her problems at 3ABN and getting counsel from him about her marriage etc.

Linda Shelton:
" Since Dr. Abrahamsen lived 6,000 miles away, and "the problem" involved some high profile people, I felt this was the best option. Typically I do not believe it is proper to speak regularly to people of the opposite sex when one is married. However, I do believe in a crisis situation the rules change. One must get help where one can find it."



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------- Original Message --------
From: Walt Thompson
To: Johann Thorvaldsson
Subject: 3abn
Date: May 2004

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As you can confirm, I have not expressed any judgments about Dr. Abrahamson other than to say that he is in the wrong for continuing a relationship, even a doctor-patient relationship, that is destroying the very thing he is trying to save. Having said that, a continuation of communication between Europe and Linda will place the board in a place where we must deal with an insubordinate member of the organization. She has been asked on numerous occasions to discontinue the relationship, first by her husband who is also her superior in ministry, by her pastor, by her board chairman, and now by the committee of the board created to seek resolution. Likewise, both you and Dr. Abrahamson have defied our requests to cease communication with Linda. While I can forgive this action on the mistaken belief that it is helping Linda, there comes a point when defiance must be dealt with lest it destroy the whole organization. If you are so concerned about Linda, and I believe you are, you will encourage her to get help here and break off the relationship there. Certainly there are people in America that can give her the help she needs
....


This email and letter were apparently furnished by Linda Shelton and published on the Save 3ABN website and also on BSDA and several other internet forums.

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From: Walt Thompson
To: [Alyssa]
Subject: Letter for Linda
Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 21:43:07 -0500

May, 4, 2004

Walter Thompson MD
Chairman of 3ABN Board of Directors
- address removed -
...

Dear Linda,
...

Since this time is recommended as a time for reflection and serious rehabilitation we are requesting that you arrange to receive professional help relating to the issues at hand. We are recommending Ron and Nancy Rocky to you. They have agreed to open their home to you and to give you personal help in dealing with the issues at the center of the present problems. It will be private and protected from the public eye such that neither your image nor reputation ought be damaged. Should you choose different professional help, it must be acceptable to this committee....
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Re: Excerpts from an unpublished manuscript
« Reply #201 on: July 09, 2010, 07:43:16 AM »

So am I 3-D.  But them I am not anybody that anybody would care about so why should you have to answer my question.
To the contrary,you are somebody, Christ died for you, and  I do care about you, and am not going to post answers to your questions publicly whether you agree with my reasons or not. Sorry.. As to what those questions are, well I think they may be based on things you have assumed and which I didn't say, and would suggest you reread what I wrote again. You are welcome to pm me if you still have questions after doing so. :)
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« Reply #202 on: July 09, 2010, 08:04:44 AM »



By the way 3D..I'm still waiting.
I apologize for that. I have been preoccupied and busy, and I confess it is harder than I thought it would be to locate all. (For example; I am still attempting to track down all the correspondence between Johann Thorvaldsson and Danny Shelton so I can post it in consecutive order) Perhaps you could be more specific as to what it is you have questions about and I could find related posts and emails with that in mind, first. Also, as Johann released or published all, I am sure he has copies, of all the emails, both those between he and DS and those between he and Dr A, and those between he and LS-- all in order. If he supplied them it would be much easier for both of us.

In the meantime, I  did find this already, and Johann's "story" refers to all 3 things which I stated were his only first person accounts, and the rest which he got from Linda. I will wait for a further reply from you before posting more, ok?


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THE STORY OF LINDA SHELTON

By Johann Thorvaldsson

Former 3ABN liaison for Europe

It is a fact that Linda Shelton has been fired - and Danny Shelton has told his version of events to the World audience. He warned us not to listen to rumors, so what are the facts of this heart- breaking experience? Unfortunately Linda Shelton has been judged and dismissed from the establishment she loved and helped build up - on the basis of rumors. Facts that have been twisted, embroidered and presented as real. This is quite a complicated matter. A few weeks ago I was in Southern Illinois, wanting to attend the camp meeting at 3ABN, together with a Norwegian medical doctor - the one Linda has been accused of committing spiritual adultery with. We went there in an attempt to clear up misunderstandings, all caused because my wife and I introduced this doctor to Danny and Linda Shelton. This doctor is also the head elder of the most flourishing conservative SDA church in Norway - and has for several years been a financial supporter of 3ABN. Some of the problems were caused because the 3ABN archives had misspelled the name of this supporter, so Danny was convinced he was an impostor. Later Danny has named him a devil, a demon, or evil spirit, or bad counselor - like he did during the transmission to the whole world on Thursday evening at Camp Meeting. Also during that meeting we were requested to leave the premises of 3ABN, and if we ever showed up again at the meetings the police would be requested to remove us as trespassing private property - and this at meetings where all are invited.

What is our crime? While my wife, Irmgard, and I were staying at 3ABN in December 2003, this doctor came to visit us, both to check Irmgard's illness and to see the studios of the ministry he was supporting and was a great fan of. Linda came to see us, and later she brought her son along, who had problems with drugs and related things. Nathan had been reluctant to see any other doctor, but a lasting friendship between the doctor and this young man was kindled. Many of his patients are young athletes, so he is used todealing with young people. The doctor invited Nathan to come and stay in Norway and receive treatments at his clinic for a month. Nathan brought his girlfriend along, and later Linda and Brenda Walsh spent 3 days there to check on things - and I had a visit with them too while they were there. At that time Nathan had merely been there for 10 days, and I did not recognize him when I saw him. He was a completely transformed person.

So after Linda returned to the States she'd call to find out how it was going with her son. Danny told me himself that he considered that if a married woman talks for more than 10 or 12 minutes with another man on the phone she'd be committing spiritual adultery - so these phone calls first branded Linda as an adulteress. And from there the ball has kept rolling with more and more accusations. Mark Finlay was willing to assist in coming to an understanding, but his offer was unacceptable to the 3ABN lawyer. Both the lawyer and the pastor urged me to stay out of this case and not support Linda. They claimed I'd soon be left out in the cold with no friends at all if I'd continue supporting Linda in her plight.

Can you imagine our Lord Jesus Christ telling me not to come to the aid of this frail woman because I'd be left out in the cold without friends? I have never heard such a statement before coming from people who are supposed to be the spiritual leaders of this great ministry. Is it any wonder that the support of 3ABN is dwindling?

With such men at the helm who make it their business and main concern to condemn Linda, is it any wonder that Linda seeks the support of her close friends - and also calls the doctor who was so kind to her son?  Of course it might have avoided some misunderstandings and confusions if that doctor had been a woman. But what does the Apostle tell us? "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Those two people have been branded before the whole world as adulterers, and you name it. I never dreamt such atrocities could take place at my favorite ministry, 3ABN

Now the woes of Linda Shelton are not hers alone any more. I was fired too, because I supported Linda. Officially it was because I refused to obey orders from my superiors at 3ABN. But I am fortunate that I get my sustentation from the church where I started my ministry more than 50 years ago. Even though I love the ministry of 3ABN, I serve the God of heaven and the God of Truth. Derrell Mundall, the father of Danny Shelton's grandchildren, who has served 3ABN faithfully for many years, has also been fired. What is his crime? He was too close and he knows the truth, and shared his knowledge with others. He supports Linda. He had no other employment when he was dismissed from 3ABN, so pray that he may soon find another fruitful ministry where he can use his talents. He chose truth instead of a steady employment, as so many other believers have done in the past.  Before Derrell was fired he was told that he must remember it was Danny who received the vision from God to build this TV station. Therefore, he was told, he must regard the words of Danny Shelton as being the words of God. Long before Linda's dismissal, Dr. Kay Kuzma was assigned to help Linda manage after being fired. She was also supposed to interview staff members to find a good reason to fire her, so one wonders what really is behind this upheaval?

Danny mentioned a number of counselors who had helped the board come to the conclusion that she should be dismissed. You can ask Linda, but I don't think she ever talked to most of those counselors. In fact even before her dismissal she felt treated like a criminal when she approached the premises of 3ABN and was not permitted to enter without close supervision. The present general staff at 3ABN is probably not permitted to ask Linda any question. If anyone wants a contact to keep up their close friendship with Linda they have to write their note on a postcard, submit it to the leaders who will forward it to Linda. Such are the present premises of this woman whose ministry has meant so much to thousands of viewers, and who will not see her any more on the screen - as long as the present leadership has it their way.

Pray for 3ABN. Pray for justice. Pray for justice also for Linda.
Miracles still take place.
Christian regards.

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This letter was sent to the owner of the BSDA forum, and he subsequently published it.

Dear Calvin,

I have become aware that your site published Johann Thorvaldsson's article about "The Story of Linda Shelton."

Since I am mentioned in that article, I thought you might be interested in publishing a response to correct the misinformation given about my involvement.

If you need to call me, my # is xxx-xxx-xxxx.

Thank you.
Kay Kuzma

Here is my statement:

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To those who may question my involvement with 3ABN and the circumstances which led up to Linda Shelton leaving 3ABN:

Yes, I was involved in what happened at 3ABN concerning Linda however the internet article in which you read about my involvement titled "The Story of Linda Shelton" by Johann Thorvaldsson, is saturated with the writer's biased personal perceptions and has very little to do with what actually happened. I was there – I know.

Rather than address each falsehood, which would be too time consuming, I will simply address the three major errors concerning me:

Here is what was printed about me: "Long before Linda's dismissal, Dr. Kay Kuzma was assigned to help Linda manage after being fired. She was also supposed to interview staff members to find a good reason to fire her, so one wonders what really is behind this upheaval?"

Here is what actually happened:

1) I was not brought in early – in fact, I was brought in during the last six weeks after Danny and Linda had been in months of counseling with professionals – with Linda still refusing to follow what the counselors suggested, i.e., unanimously the counselors told her that she would have to give up her relationship with the doctor in Norway who she was spending up to six hours each day talking with.

2) I was not brought in to help Linda "manage" after she was fired – she was never fired. The committee I was on (and later the Board) repeatedly gave her opportunity to talk with them trying to bring resolution and restoration to both her ministry at 3ABN and her marriage. She refused at every point. There was never discussion concerning "firing" Linda when I became involved – only a discussion on how to help her. There was such a concern for Linda's reputation that the entire Board was not initially notified about the situation until it became an absolute necessity to do so. I was on a small committee of two Board members, the 3ABN attorney, and myself. The small committee's discussion centered on how to save Linda for ministry. Linda talked to me one time and refused any further contact I tried to make with her.

3) I was NOT asked by 3ABN to interview staff concerning Linda. Linda, herself, asked me to talk with the staff. She even gave me the specific names of the people she wanted me to talk with. The results from the interviews with the employees Linda suggested weren't flattering to her. When I tried to get back with her, she refused to answer my calls.

The overwhelming error in Mr. Thorvaldsson's account of the events surrounding Linda Shelton's departure from 3ABN gives witness to the fact that his observation was from many thousands of miles away and only receiving his information from the two involved in the duplicity.

Hopefully it has become apparent to you, as I pointed out the error contained in these three lines alone, that this entire article is full of misinformation. If you would like specific answers to any other point, I'll be happy to share. God is good and truth will prevail even though there are those who are trying to stir up controversy.

I believe the most important thing to understand is that eventually the fruit of a person's decisions will become evident. Although I will not comment further about what happened to lead up to Linda's departure from 3ABN, we know that the other man had been to the States and spent time with Linda before she left Danny, and that immediately after she left Danny, the other man was with Linda. A few weeks later they spent time traveling together through Europe.

Please remember, 3ABN is not Danny or Linda's ministry – it is God's, and every day we all see incredible miracles as God is moving

His ministry forward. It's been a very difficult time – as we all love Linda and recognize how much God used her in her role as co-host with Danny. God truly gifted her with the ability to write beautiful songs that have been a tremendous blessing to thousands.

Thanks for remembering 3ABN in your prayers – and thanks for not sharing Mr. Thorvaldsson's article with anyone else – since I know you don't want to be a part of spreading misinformation.

Sincerely,
Kay Kuzma

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From: "Walt Thompson"
To: ....
Subject: Re: 3abn


Dear ....

Thank you for your e mail sharing your frustrations with 3ABN. It is understandable that you may feel frustrated regarding the breakup of Danny and Linda. You are not alone. Had the devil sought a more effective place to point his fatal arrow, he could not have found one. He aimed at its heart, and made a direct hit. However, like the promise in Genesis 3:15, though 3ABN has been wounded, it has risen again, and stronger than ever. Praise the Lord.

Let me summarize some of the events as viewed from my perspective during the past couple years. Perhaps it will allow you to view things a bit differently.

Though we have attempted to keep the leaders of the church attuned to what has been transpiring at 3ABN, we have not said much publicly for Linda's sake. We all still care about Linda, and know she must be hurting terribly.

A little more than two years ago a live television program aired on 3abn from Green Bay, Wisconsin. During that program Linda told of meeting a special person that had changed her life. She did not give the name or the sex of that person, but we later learned that he was listening in Norway. A few months earlier, a doctor visited 3ABN from Norway. He found out about Linda's son being hooked on drugs and told Linda that if he would come to his place in Norway for a month, he would be cured. Arrangements were made and Nathan went there in Feb. 04. While there Linda and one of her closest friends went to visit and spent 3 days with them. During this time Linda and the doctor struck up a relationship that her friend became very concerned about, and eventually came to the place where she decided she needed to speak out. I have heard that testimony. I will not describe it in detail, but it was described as much more than the usual doctor - client relationship. One of the things was that Linda had made arrangements to meet the doctor in Norway to spend 10 days with him touring the pretty places in the country during the following June.

In early March Danny called me. He was very distraught as he told me what Linda was doing. I immediately traveled to 3abn to find out for myself, and for the next two to three months was there for a few days almost every week. During this time I and a small committee of the board had a number of sessions with Linda, encouraging her to break off the relationship that was ruining her home and putting a serious strain on the ministry. Pastor John L. was one of the first to counsel Linda. >From the start, before meeting with Danny and Linda together he warned Linda that what she was doing was wrong, and must stop. He then spent hours counseling the two of them together. I am not sure how many other sessions were had. When I arrived, I arranged for Pastor John, Linda and Danny and I to meet together. We met, talked and prayed. Both Danny and Linda were anointed, and committed to God to do what was right. Linda promised us to cut off the relationship. Not long (I don't remember the length of time, but probably less than an hour) she was secretly on the phone to Norway with the doctor again. We had other sessions with her where she reluctantly made similar agreements, but usually said she was not going to give him up until she was sure Danny would stop interfering in her affairs - as if it was Danny's fault they were having trouble. On one occasion I was able to get the doctor on the phone. I begged him to break of the relationship. He told me he would not. We arranged for Danny and Linda to visit a marriage counselor couple out of state. They were not Adventist, but devout Christians of another faith. They were chosen so that Linda could not claim that they were biased, if Adventist. Danny and Linda spent eight hours with the counselors. They were the one's who told Linda she was committing "spiritual adultery" and that it was wrong and must be stopped at once. She made excuses, said she was doing nothing wrong. They warned her that the way she was going it would soon become physical.

Our committee of the board invited a lady friend of Linda's to sit with us, thinking that, being a woman, she would be able to make Linda comfortable. As soon as she heard Linda's story, she confided to Linda that she was wrong, and needed to correct the problem. Linda requested her to query some of the 3ABN leadership to hear their views. she did this, only to find that Linda used the negative feedback she received as evidence she was not a friend to her cause. Linda would not talk to her again - the same as she had done to the friend that went with her to Norway.

Meanwhile, all during this time, Linda was spending long hours on the phone with the doctor on international calls using phone cards, credit cards, etc. We have records of those cards and can verify the amount of time spent. Some calls were overheard by Danny when she did not know he was around. Whereas she says that she was discussing her son, the calls were, in fact not about her son, but were very personal. Arrangements were made, and tickets purchased to meet him in Florida. (We have evidence such a meeting did indeed take place) When that was discovered, they planned to meet in Las Vegas, and New York. And as you might expect, Danny was by this time checking things out pretty carefully. One night she came home all cheery. While she and Danny were getting ready for bed, she left to do something else (I have forgotten what). While out, Danny found a sack of things in the closet. Upon opening it, he found a pregnancy test kit. (He is "fixed" so he cannot have more children.) When she found out that he had discovered it, she was at first angry because he had "snooped" in her things, and then told him she had just purchased it to see his reaction. We also have evidence that the doctor had given her an expensive wristwatch. [ http://references4links.blogspot.com/2007/05/actual-watch-pictures.html ]

While this was going on, Linda refusing to give up the doctor, and Danny not willing to live with a third party disrupting things, they began talking divorce. Linda's mother lived in Las Vegas (I think) and Linda began making plans to move there long enough to gain residency status and then was going to get a divorce. Discovering the possibility of getting a divorce through Guan, they jointly agreed. Danny was driven by several factors. One, she was not about to be faithful to him. She was running up huge credit card debts on joint accounts making him responsible for paying them off, and he was concerned about 3ABN and the effect the situation was causing on the ministry. It simply could not continue the way things were going. Though I and the board did not get involved in the marriage, we were very much concerned about the ministry.

All the while, this was taking a real toll on the ministry. Work was not getting done. The employees were pulled in both directions. Finally, I sent Linda a registered letter (she was not answering my e mails or phone calls). In it I told her that we were offering to send her away for counseling to a place and with people mutually acceptable. I told her that if she would not accept our offer and find help to get rid of the doctor, we would have to consider removing her from her positions. She did not respond to my letter.

At camp meeting time (the end of May), we also had a board meeting. On Friday night of camp meeting, the doctor and Johann (our European representative before this all developed) came and sat in the back row. Danny was very uncomfortable with them there, fearful they would make a scene on international television. He asked us to ask them to leave. They refused. They walked out just as the meeting was ending. I and some other people went out after them. When we got outside, Johann grabbed me by the shirt and started to shake me in anger. When other bigger people came to my support, he calmed down, and we all talked together for a half hour or so - I am not sure of the total time. In the meantime, Mark Finley spoke with the doctor. I joined them for a few minutes. While I was with Mark and the doctor, something was said that upset Johann, and he and the doctor left, angry and fast, spinning dirt as they left. Because they had begun to hand out papers of a proposed article they were planning to submit to the local newspaper discrediting 3ABN, we warned them not to come back.

The next day, Sabbath, we got hold of Johann by phone and he agreed to meet with us at a park and talk things out. The doctor was also invited, but he said he had said all he had to say the night before, and refused to come. We spent an hour or two with Johann, going over all of the events until then. Finally, I took him to the hotel where they were staying. We sat in the car and talked for some time. At that time he confessed to me that maybe he was wrong in supporting Linda. We had prayer and parted. The three of them left and returned to Springfield shortly after that.

Linda did not come to the board meeting on Sunday morning. She sent a letter instead. The board considered her letter carefully in light of all that had gone on, and unanimously agreed that she could no longer serve the ministry under these conditions, nor continue to serve on the board. (We have since been accused of refusing to let the doctor and Johann represent her at the board. No such request was ever made, either by voice or by pen.)

Linda did go to Norway for her ten-day vacation with the doctor in June. We know that. There have been many other trips back and forth by both of them since.

Linda said on her web site recently that I had told Johann a year before that I had never accused her of adultery. She was correctly quoting a portion of my statement to Johann, but what she did not bother to say is that I was defending 3ABN against an accusation that we had fired her for adultery. I was merely telling him that it was for defiance of her board that she was let go, not because of adultery, an accusation, it is true, I never stated. As you can see from the few things I have included here, we have had ample evidence to suggest adultery, but it is true, we have not seen the two of them in bed together.

Our position on the board all through this process was to take the high road and not to tell things like this to the public, attempting to protect Linda from even more hurt that she was doing to herself. In all of our public statements, we have tried to be discrete. To protect the ministry from a public confrontation, we also gave Linda a good settlement with the agreement that she would not bad mouth 3ABN. And while she has partially fulfilled her obligation, her "friends" have kept the pot boiling - contrary to her agreement.

She wrote on her web site in March that they were not divorced, that the Guam divorce was being contested. It is interesting to know that this was posted on the web site after (or about the time that) the judge's decision had been made in favor of Danny. It is also interesting that the only reason she filed suit against Danny was to get more money from him than they had agreed upon originally. One might wonder why she would file for a new divorce if it had been Danny that had insisted on it in the first place as she alleges!

Sometime fairly early on during this experience, Linda began to accuse Danny of abusing her. She told people she was afraid to stay home with him for fear he would take his gun and hurt her. On a number of occasions during their discussions she would go off in a huff to stay with her daughter in Springfield (two hours away). On at least one of those occasions, I was on the phone with Danny when she was preparing to leave, and I heard nothing suggesting abuse of any kind. I will admit that at first, Danny was "in her face" an awfully lot trying to get her to stop talking with the doctor. This stopped after their visit with the counselors. We believe that the Dr. advised Linda to use the "abuse" language to justify their relationship - and have good evidence upon which this is based. I believe it was during the GC session in Toronto when abuse was included among the justifications for divorce. If you know Danny at all, one thing he is not, is an abuser. Talk! Perhaps! But certainly not dangerous or physical.

Just to make this letter a bit more complete, let me tell you what I know about Danny's attempt to save Linda for himself - even after the divorce papers were signed. He paid off the remaining debt on her new car, her daughter's car, all of the credit cards, and other joint bills. He bought her interest in the house, helped her move to Southern Illinois, build a porch on her home there, gave her all of the things in their home including things that were really his. (He did these things with money obtained in a loan from a friend.) Over and over again he took her out to eat and did many other things to show how much he really cared for her. In fact, many of the employees and some of us on the board were concerned because of how she was leading him on and keeping him in turmoil. Over and over, she threatened him, saying, that if she was going down, she would bring him and the ministry down with him.

One more thing. Linda has said that she was not censured by her church. The fact is, her church did meet and confidentially went over all of the evidence they had, and wrote an 8 page letter outlining the reason they had to conclude that she was wrong. Rather than drop her from membership, out of concern for her, they agreed do a letter of censure.

As for Danny getting married, let me make a few more comments. Our board has been well informed on all of these things. We were the ones that unanimously let Linda go, as much as we all hated to take that step. We all love her, care about her, and continue to keep her in our prayers. We have also been fully informed about Danny and his new-found friend. I was at 3ABN the day she and her two girls arrived from Florida with all they possessed. I shared some peanut butter and grapes that I had left over as I was about to return home. My heart went out to them. Danny's eventually did too. They are really nice people who have a heart for Jesus and for hurting people. She has had a hard life. (Her twin sister is dead.) There relationship has grown since that day more than a year ago. (Contrary to rumor, there was no relationship going before that!) A number of the staff and some of us on the board advised Danny to "cool it." He tried. But Danny is a people person. He needs people around him. I have concluded that Brandy came to 3abn at the direction of either the devil or the Holy Spirit. I have had no trouble deciding which. I believe God has given Danny just what he has needed to continue to serve that ministry with the power and enthusiasm that is characteristic to him. He loves the Lord supremely, and seeks His guidance in all things. What you see of Danny on television is who he is. He is not a fake. Yes, he is human. He has human tendencies, just like you and I. Just because he is on television does not automatically take away those personal drives.

Before Danny married Brandy, our board met by conference call and went over the evidence again. It was our conclusion based upon the information we have, only some of which I have shared here, that Danny was morally free to re-marry if he wished. We were all concerned about the timing, but did not feel that was a just reason for condemning the action. Those of Church leadership with whom we have shared these things agree with our decision.

In all of the Bible, I have not been able to find a single instance where God had a prophet condemn any one for anything that was not either illegal or immoral. As our board, and leaders of the church, have carefully examined the evidence, we find nothing for which to condemn Danny either. As regarding age difference, I find nothing in the Bible or the SOP that speaks to this issue. You may remember Elder Archo Dart, a General Conference officer doing family counseling during the fifties. He married a patient of mine who was at least 20 years younger when he was in his late 70's. They had an excellent marriage. Teddy, his new wife, loved every minute of their time together - as she told me. They are both dead now.

Linda, in spite of what I have noted above, refuses to acknowledge that what she was doing was wrong - nor is she telling the facts as they happened. It is one thing to forgive and forget, but is altogether something else when one is unable to acknowledge wrong doing. Yes, and I truly would like to know what Jesus would have done differently. As I see it, we gave Linda every imaginable opportunity to remain and work with 3ABN - except for one condition. When she refused, what more is one to do? Jesus was patient with Judas too, but He did not prevent Judas from doing what he did.

For my part, I have asked God for wisdom to guide in all that we have done. I have insisted at every step that we do everything in a way that could never be honestly faulted. I believe God has honored our desire, and blessed the ministry beyond measure because we have tried so hard to be faithful. You may remember that even God lost some of his best friends (Lucifer, Ananias and Saphira and others). It hurts. But sometimes one must act to stop bad things - even when it hurts!

I hope this helps to clear the confusion. NO ONE at 3ABN wanted to get rid of Linda, least of all, Danny. I don't think there are very many people that would condemn Danny for not waiting longer to agree to divorce if they had been there and witnessed the situation. Even God has limits to His tolerance. If you have further questions or need further evidence, please let me know.

Sincerely in Jesus' precious name,
Walter Thompson MD
Chairman, 3ABN Board

( My editing was due to the quotes not being correctly formatted.)
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« Reply #203 on: July 09, 2010, 10:54:43 AM »

So am I 3-D.  But them I am not anybody that anybody would care about so why should you have to answer my question.
To the contrary,you are somebody, Christ died for you, and  I do care about you, and am not going to post answers to your questions publicly whether you agree with my reasons or not. Sorry.. As to what those questions are, well I think they may be based on things you have assumed and which I didn't say, and would suggest you reread what I wrote again. You are welcome to pm me if you still have questions after doing so. :)

I don't need to reread what you wrote.  I want you to just simply admit that you went digging around on the internet to get the information on the names of my children and my mother.  That I did NOT post the information here or on any other forum.  You DID say that you knew the names of my children and my mother.  I did not assume that.  Do you need a quote?  Admit that and I will let it go.
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« Reply #204 on: July 09, 2010, 11:35:20 AM »

3D, I believe the question was about Johann's involvement in the matter that related to Linda.  It seems that you said he had little involvement, or something, and I asked you if y that is what Danny told you, and then asked if you could prove that.  Again, thank you for responding.
Before it starts again, and posters start protesting their outrage that 3ABN suggested counselors for Linda or in the alternative that she choose her own that they could also agree to. I would like to add here, that this was due to Linda herself saying she needed help and someone to talk to as she claimed her phone calls with  Dr A, after starting about Nathan progressed to talking to him about her problems at 3ABN and getting counsel from him about her marriage etc.

Linda Shelton:
" Since Dr. Abrahamsen lived 6,000 miles away, and "the problem" involved some high profile people, I felt this was the best option. Typically I do not believe it is proper to speak regularly to people of the opposite sex when one is married. However, I do believe in a crisis situation the rules change. One must get help where one can find it."



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From: Walt Thompson
To: Johann Thorvaldsson
Subject: 3abn
Date: May 2004

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As you can confirm, I have not expressed any judgments about Dr. Abrahamson other than to say that he is in the wrong for continuing a relationship, even a doctor-patient relationship, that is destroying the very thing he is trying to save. Having said that, a continuation of communication between Europe and Linda will place the board in a place where we must deal with an insubordinate member of the organization. She has been asked on numerous occasions to discontinue the relationship, first by her husband who is also her superior in ministry, by her pastor, by her board chairman, and now by the committee of the board created to seek resolution. Likewise, both you and Dr. Abrahamson have defied our requests to cease communication with Linda. While I can forgive this action on the mistaken belief that it is helping Linda, there comes a point when defiance must be dealt with lest it destroy the whole organization. If you are so concerned about Linda, and I believe you are, you will encourage her to get help here and break off the relationship there. Certainly there are people in America that can give her the help she needs
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This email and letter were apparently furnished by Linda Shelton and published on the Save 3ABN website and also on BSDA and several other internet forums.

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From: Walt Thompson
To: [Alyssa]
Subject: Letter for Linda
Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 21:43:07 -0500

May, 4, 2004

Walter Thompson MD
Chairman of 3ABN Board of Directors
- address removed -
...

Dear Linda,
...

Since this time is recommended as a time for reflection and serious rehabilitation we are requesting that you arrange to receive professional help relating to the issues at hand. We are recommending Ron and Nancy Rocky to you. They have agreed to open their home to you and to give you personal help in dealing with the issues at the center of the present problems. It will be private and protected from the public eye such that neither your image nor reputation ought be damaged. Should you choose different professional help, it must be acceptable to this committee....
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« Reply #205 on: July 09, 2010, 02:38:13 PM »

Yes, I think they could have. Linda doesn't appear to have done anything with them. Now the styling and look of them is outdated and I doubt they would do very well anymore.

Well if your opinion is correct then the  music videos "that were gaining significant national attention" and "would have done well outside the SDA circles"  can still do well, "George", and should have already been. Linda has the rights to them, and has had that for 6 years now, and has also been receiving the income from selling that CD on her website the entire time. The one you claim "was outselling all the Shelton CDs." Good for her.
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« Reply #206 on: July 12, 2010, 04:31:24 PM »

NO, I didn't, I heard he was very good, though.  He has been to our church, and I wasn't impressed.  LOL!!!!


Oh, and Di if your reading this, did you hear Abraham Jules out of New York! (smile)  I think Jules really picked a good topic for His sermon. combined the whole kit and caboodle on our differance in views and the views of all visitors of all the different religions that were there. I thought that was well chosen.

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« Reply #207 on: July 12, 2010, 05:07:47 PM »

NO, I didn't, I heard he was very good, though.  He has been to our church, and I wasn't impressed.  LOL!!!!


Oh, and Di if your reading this, did you hear Abraham Jules out of New York! (smile)  I think Jules really picked a good topic for His sermon. combined the whole kit and caboodle on our differance in views and the views of all visitors of all the different religions that were there. I thought that was well chosen.

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I thought how he brought out the "eating of unclean" pertaining to giving the gospel to the gentiles and ending up with racism not allowed.  He got pretty hyper in the end but his message I thought very good since all the other denominations were there to hear that understanding where they think and use those verses to eat pork.
What don't you like about him, I am curious.
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« Reply #208 on: July 13, 2010, 02:50:43 AM »


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This letter was sent to the owner of the BSDA forum, and he subsequently published it.

Dear Calvin,

I have become aware that your site published Johann Thorvaldsson's article about "The Story of Linda Shelton."

Since I am mentioned in that article, I thought you might be interested in publishing a response to correct the misinformation given about my involvement.

If you need to call me, my # is xxx-xxx-xxxx.

Thank you.
Kay Kuzma

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To those who may question my involvement with 3ABN and the circumstances which led up to Linda Shelton leaving 3ABN:

Yes, I was involved in what happened at 3ABN concerning Linda however the internet article in which you read about my involvement titled "The Story of Linda Shelton" by Johann Thorvaldsson, is saturated with the writer's biased personal perceptions and has very little to do with what actually happened. I was there – I know.

Rather than address each falsehood, which would be too time consuming, I will simply address the three major errors concerning me:

Here is what was printed about me: "Long before Linda's dismissal, Dr. Kay Kuzma was assigned to help Linda manage after being fired. She was also supposed to interview staff members to find a good reason to fire her, so one wonders what really is behind this upheaval?"

Here is what actually happened:

1) I was not brought in early – in fact, I was brought in during the last six weeks after Danny and Linda had been in months of counseling with professionals – with Linda still refusing to follow what the counselors suggested, i.e., unanimously the counselors told her that she would have to give up her relationship with the doctor in Norway who she was spending up to six hours each day talking with.

2) I was not brought in to help Linda "manage" after she was fired – she was never fired. The committee I was on (and later the Board) repeatedly gave her opportunity to talk with them trying to bring resolution and restoration to both her ministry at 3ABN and her marriage. She refused at every point. There was never discussion concerning "firing" Linda when I became involved – only a discussion on how to help her. There was such a concern for Linda's reputation that the entire Board was not initially notified about the situation until it became an absolute necessity to do so. I was on a small committee of two Board members, the 3ABN attorney, and myself. The small committee's discussion centered on how to save Linda for ministry. Linda talked to me one time and refused any further contact I tried to make with her.

3) I was NOT asked by 3ABN to interview staff concerning Linda. Linda, herself, asked me to talk with the staff. She even gave me the specific names of the people she wanted me to talk with. The results from the interviews with the employees Linda suggested weren't flattering to her. When I tried to get back with her, she refused to answer my calls.

The overwhelming error in Mr. Thorvaldsson's account of the events surrounding Linda Shelton's departure from 3ABN gives witness to the fact that his observation was from many thousands of miles away and only receiving his information from the two involved in the duplicity.

Hopefully it has become apparent to you, as I pointed out the error contained in these three lines alone, that this entire article is full of misinformation. If you would like specific answers to any other point, I'll be happy to share. God is good and truth will prevail even though there are those who are trying to stir up controversy.

I believe the most important thing to understand is that eventually the fruit of a person's decisions will become evident. Although I will not comment further about what happened to lead up to Linda's departure from 3ABN, we know that the other man had been to the States and spent time with Linda before she left Danny, and that immediately after she left Danny, the other man was with Linda. A few weeks later they spent time traveling together through Europe.

Please remember, 3ABN is not Danny or Linda's ministry – it is God's, and every day we all see incredible miracles as God is moving

His ministry forward. It's been a very difficult time – as we all love Linda and recognize how much God used her in her role as co-host with Danny. God truly gifted her with the ability to write beautiful songs that have been a tremendous blessing to thousands.

Thanks for remembering 3ABN in your prayers – and thanks for not sharing Mr. Thorvaldsson's article with anyone else – since I know you don't want to be a part of spreading misinformation.

Sincerely,
Kay Kuzma

This statement by Kay Kuzma, as well as several of the statements made by Dr. Walt Thompson suffer greatly by their lack of memory - and where they make use of that I cannot verify what those people have told me while talking to them on the phone.

While this was going on I had a 45 minute phone conversation with Kay Kuzma where she told me several things which contradict what she says in her statement. Perhaps I should not blame her? Perhaps she was later so influenced by all of the stories she was told by Danny Shelton that she completely forgot what she had said to me on the phone?

Same thing goes for Walt Thompson. Both of them have later refused to acknowledge what they told me privately. Is that the Christian thing to do?
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« Reply #209 on: July 13, 2010, 03:21:07 PM »

Well, I had heard he was a very good speaker, and when he came, he saw me before going up to the rostrum, and was very nice and down to earth.  However, when he got into the pulpit, he was this raving ego maniac. The message ended up being all about him.  This was very puzzling as I had heard form everyone what a great speaker he was.  Several told our pastor, who also thought it strange, but he never invited him back

I thought how he brought out the "eating of unclean" pertaining to giving the gospel to the gentiles and ending up with racism not allowed.  He got pretty hyper in the end but his message I thought very good since all the other denominations were there to hear that understanding where they think and use those verses to eat pork.
What don't you like about him, I am curious.
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