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Re: Dr. Arild Abrahamsen's Letter of Concern to Mark Finley
« Reply #150 on: June 29, 2010, 08:22:37 PM »

After reading about Danny's vile schemes... to get Linda to be away for a specified time and telling her one story why... then he cries at campmeeting to feel sorry for Danny because his wife is with the Norwegian Dr... to sending out letters to those who were very elderly so that when things get out if they ever do, there is no way those letters can be found for proof....shows in part Danny's diabolical sickness which has continued.... and all the other vile things he has done and said since ... he is such a sick hipocrit...

 just don't understand why anyone wants to watch him on tv. Never did like him when he and Linda were together at 3ABN. All he did was talk about himself  ALL THE TIME and she pointed us to Jesus and His Love for us.

Ps. I don't want Linda at 3ABN. She needs to have her own ministry apart from 3ABN. 3ABN hurt her way too much for her to go back.
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« Reply #151 on: June 30, 2010, 05:25:56 AM »

One of the fall backs of DS character that fits in with his sickness that I took note of was his big stories of "God spoke to him to build the tv station".

First of all a normal person that has this sort of inclinations that the Holy Spirits is talking to them usually keep their stuff personal between them and God and progress is between that person and God. Otherwise the stories I call nebbie stories because of the bragging.  The only reason DS did this was his "pain for fame" "money" and how to get it using his ego talent to honest people's that are ignorant of his agenda and by making them believe that God is speaking to him.

This is the same way all these TV "hooligans" get theirs to. It is the same pattern. But DS sickness got worse as his "lusts" grew. The "money" gave him the abilities to bring out his true character.  I do not think that LS agenda was the same and therefore how would the two be able to be yoked together and anything work? DS exposed himself as LS is in bewilderment and hurt. But somehow I believe she knows the way now. The other scumbag web site says she was a mental case, well how could anyone not be??? Not only DS but looking around what all your into with the whole "clans" patterns coming out too. I feel she is blessed beyond what she realizes.
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« Reply #152 on: June 30, 2010, 07:21:34 PM »

 :goodpost: Tinka .... every time.
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« Reply #153 on: June 30, 2010, 07:46:53 PM »

Guide4him, 

You have no idea how sick this has made me feel for my beloved church. I wish it were a nightmare. I guess we all knew bad things were coming but so hard to accept when they do because it seems worse then what I read and could imagine.  It's sort of like the Oil Spill.  I knew it always said there would be disasters by land and sea. I just thought about these horrible storms and ships going down. Never did I realize what is happening now. This I believe will never be the same. I do think they are trying not to panic the people. I believe according to the video that I gave link to is worse then what they will say. Fox is starting to elude to it little by little. The spumes from the pipe are getting more and more as the pipe is breaking holes from the unheard of pressure from going to far into a strata they never reached before. The pressure is what they cannot control. all valves could not hold it once it hit that Strata which they drilled 6 miles beyond the 1 mile deep into the ocean for a total of 7 miles. It was farther then the deepest drill in Russia and US thought they could did deeper and that is what they got. US gave all permits, inspections and all go for BP to perform. Both are at fault. But what now?? They are talking about Nukes. But they pretty much know the chance they would be taking if it did not work. The fish will die and much else with a hole bigger and more pressue. and here we are in a horrible saga of the 3abn. It is definitely a live nightmare in time.
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« Reply #154 on: July 01, 2010, 08:48:19 PM »

After reading about Danny's vile schemes... to get Linda to be away for a specified time and telling her one story why... then he cries at campmeeting to feel sorry for Danny because his wife is with the Norwegian Dr... to sending out letters to those who were very elderly so that when things get out if they ever do, there is no way those letters can be found for proof....shows in part Danny's diabolical sickness which has continued.... and all the other vile things he has done and said since ... he is such a sick hipocrit...

 just don't understand why anyone wants to watch him on tv. Never did like him when he and Linda were together at 3ABN. All he did was talk about himself  ALL THE TIME and she pointed us to Jesus and His Love for us.

Ps. I don't want Linda at 3ABN. She needs to have her own ministry apart from 3ABN. 3ABN hurt her way too much for her to go back.

AMEN!
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« Reply #155 on: July 02, 2010, 06:07:47 PM »

It's too bad, someone's Mother or Dad is not like my Mom. She never threw anything away. She had letters and papers from Church from 20 years ago ;D
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« Reply #156 on: July 02, 2010, 06:30:36 PM »

I don't throw these type of emails, etc. away either, therefore, if I ever received it, then I still have it somewhere.

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« Reply #157 on: July 02, 2010, 06:36:45 PM »

So Daryl, you are saying that none of the emails or letters were ever sent about Linda? Wanting to fire her, accusing her of adultery, etc?
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« Reply #158 on: July 04, 2010, 08:39:06 AM »

I don't throw these type of emails, etc. away either, therefore, if I ever received it, then I still have it somewhere.

My first wife and I lived together for 51 years. My second wife now for 4 years. Even though they are very different both of them have one thing in common, They try to make me discard every piece of paper that I don't need for our survival - possibly because there has not been room for any more for several years. I appreciate the assistance to make life more meaningful. So I'm asking publishers not to send me any more magazines if I can read their publications on the Internet.
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« Reply #159 on: March 19, 2011, 03:57:58 PM »

Because accusations against me in connection with this letter are still current at another forum, I'd like to make a few comments here.

The following email was relayed to me along with the request that it be posted as written. I have complied with that request and post it now exactly as I received it and with no commentary.

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Since this accusation has repercussions far beyond myself and my family, and impacts upon the God to whom I have dedicated my life in service, His church, and its ministries, I must challenge Dr. Abrahamsen to provide documentation defending the accuracy of his statement. Of course, he will not, for he cannot. They do not exist, and never have.

It so happens that I saw the documentation Dr. Abrahamsen has before his letters were posted. The documentation came from Dr. Thompson's own home base.
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There are many reasons why inaccuracies and assumptions may arise in situations such as this. Often, two people may witness the same incident, but see it in very different ways--both being true in the minds of the witnesses. On other occasions, past experiences may influence our understanding of facts, giving us varied ways of interpreting the facts we observe. Sometimes, pertinent facts are unavailable for first person witness, leading interested individuals to make assumptions that may or may not be accurate. On yet other occasions, facts are intentionally distorted or fabricated in an effort to deceive--sometimes very effectively!

I agree wholeheartedly with this, and I believe that the conclusions Dr. Thompson came to back in 2004 with such tragic results, would have been quite different if he had considered what he is stating here. This whole affair started with the false tales of Brenda Walsh. If Dr. Thompson had been as eager to check the accuracy of her stories as he seemend to be with statements verified by two witnesses and more, which he did not acccept as sufficiently verified, then the problems of 3ABN  and the pain he refers to here below, would never have been the same.
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Undoubtedly all of these factors have contributed to the pain that has been experienced by so many in recent years in regards to the issues leading to Dr. Abrahamsen's letter. For the reasons given here, some things will remain a mystery so long as life may last here on earth. Only in that better land may we hope to see truth in all of its facets. Until then, we must go on, walking by faith, trusting the promises of God that, "All things work together for good to those that love God and are called according to His purpose," Romans 8:28.
Dr. Thompson is entitled to religions freedom, like all others, and this includes following the leading of the demon  that appeard to Brenda Walsh that night, and which led her to make her false tales, and believing that also worked together for good to some people. But that does not make it the just way to go when it affects others.
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For my part, as an individual very much involved in the events under discussion, and as chairman of the board of 3ABN during the time under discussion, I hereby wish to express my sorrow for any wrongs I have done, or any wrongs done by other members of the 3ABN community to those who have been hurt. Though we are all human and sometimes fail to live up to our highest aspirations, never has there been the least intent to mislead or cause pain. For the hurting ones (on both sides of the conflict) my heart aches, and for these I pray each day. Through these difficult times 3ABN's theme song has been severely tested, but remains our constant quest, "I want to spend my life healing broken people." We all do!
The confession part in this statement sounds good, and I cannot say it is not honest. But confession also demands restitution, something we have never seen applied. I agree with you that the theme song of 3ABN has been severely tested. Such things happen when your help to broken people excludes people you have caused so much pain due to false reports. Prayer is good, but prayer also demands action in areas where the Lord has placed you.
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Will we ever agree on all points? Likely not! Will we ever see eye to eye? Perhaps not until we cross the river into that better world, but my plea is that we love one another in word and deed, proving by that love that God is our Father, and we, His faithful and true sons and daughters.


Jesus Himself defines who are His faithful sons and daughters. You find this definition in Matt. 25:45`Then the King will answer them, "I tell you the truth. What you did not do for even the smallest of these, you did not do for me."

 46And they will go away to be punished for ever. But the good people will go away to live for ever.'
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Jesus said, "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you: That you may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for He makes His sun shine on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust," Matthew 5:44, 45.
 
Let us love one another!
 
Walter Thompson
Chairman, 3ABN Board of Directors

Your confession may be good, but what did you do to one of these least ones when she stood there all alone in front of a group of hyppocrites who claimed they could cast her out because they themselves are the saints who are proclaiming the true gospel? Where was your love then?
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« Reply #160 on: March 19, 2011, 04:47:30 PM »

Anyone who believes this is his last campaign does not know Mark Finley! His funeral will be the day of his last campaign, but do not be surprised if he is a part of the special resurrection to carry the the Final Loud Cry Message!

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Mark Finley's last campaign before retiring as a vice president in a few days:

http://www.adventistreview.org/article.php?id=3414
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« Reply #161 on: March 19, 2011, 04:56:29 PM »

I should not interrupt this literation and it should be considered in the most sincere solemnity:

I don't throw these type of emails, etc. away either, therefore, if I ever received it, then I still have it somewhere.

My first wife and I lived together for 51 years. My second wife now for 4 years. Even though they are very different both of them have one thing in common, They try to make me discard every piece of paper that I don't need for our survival - possibly because there has not been room for any more for several years. I appreciate the assistance to make life more meaningful. So I'm asking publishers not to send me any more magazines if I can read their publications on the Internet.
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« Reply #162 on: June 10, 2011, 02:52:15 PM »

I am sorry I am reading this on year late but Dr Arild you are right.   There is too much ducking from the job on this one.   I too several years ago called the union president, under which Linda and Danny were pastor to ask the union president to listen to her side of the story.  he refused.   His excuse was that 3ABN was not a church organization.  how we an argument.  I told him that she was a member of the church (our organization) and 3ABN is using our name with our blessing and that make it his responsibility to talk to her.  he still did not listen.  Linda has never been treated fairly.   It is my view that after being divorced twice and with such questionable person he is, Brother Danny should not be allowed to speak on behalf of 3abn publically any more and he should be disciplined by the church. 

March 26, 2010

Hello Pastor Mark,
 
Thank you for your response.  I appreciate the opportunity to finally correct the errors you may have been told about the situation.  It is not counseling that is needed for this situation, it is ACTION on the GC level.  I realize that this is a very difficult situation, but as members we are taught to turn to our leadership in these situations.  Wnere else is there to turn?
 
What inaccuracies do you see in my letter?  Please give me the opportunity to address them.
 
I am aware you briefly spoke to Linda twice before the divorce.  The issues I am mainly addressing here have much to do with what followed the divorce.
 
If one cannot discuss errors and difficulties with a Vice-President of our beloved Church, who can we talk to?
 
Sincerely,
 
Dr. Arild Abrahamsen
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« Reply #163 on: June 10, 2011, 02:57:21 PM »

This Adventist Church has made and is still making a mistake in ignoring this subject.   Adventist leaders are responsible.  Danny Shelton is  a member of the Adventist Church.  Most people think that 3ABN is Adventist owned.  3ABN is allowed to produce ADventist programs, supported by the church.  Therefore, we must stop this ducking and dealing with the matters at hand.
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« Reply #164 on: June 10, 2011, 05:40:15 PM »

Did you contact Elder Ted Wilson, GC President, regarding this?

This Adventist Church has made and is still making a mistake in ignoring this subject.   Adventist leaders are responsible.  Danny Shelton is  a member of the Adventist Church.  Most people think that 3ABN is Adventist owned.  3ABN is allowed to produce ADventist programs, supported by the church.  Therefore, we must stop this ducking and dealing with the matters at hand.
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