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[Murcielago]

I think this is the statement in question.

Bob, you said out of the seven people supposedly molested by TS, one is under age over on Maritime. Did I understand you correctly?

If so, then six of the seven would be considered "consenting" adults. And perhaps even the one under age was consenting, who knows if any of this is true. I have my doubts not because you posted it or because Mr. Joy investigated this, but because none of the 7 prosecuted TS or took him to court. I would certainly suggest to them that they do so as soon as possible.

http://www.save-3abn.com/danny-shelton-et-al-apologists-lee-01.htm

For someone who seems to think it's ok for a grown man to have sex with a minor if the minor consents; I think you would be best to keep your mouth shut. You are a sick woman.  Your statments lend NO crediblilty at all.

Duane, your ego is showing. No one cares whether you testify or not.   

Then why are you commenting on it? Sheesh...some of you people are really stressing over this.

Just to set the record straight in as little words as possible: NO I DID NOT SAY THAT samuelthomas so you can stop repeating Pickle's LIES.  Have fun in court next month.

[Adam]

Yes, it is so tell me how Junebug can say she DID NOT say that? It's right there black and white.

I think this is the statement in question.

Bob, you said out of the seven people supposedly molested by TS, one is under age over on Maritime. Did I understand you correctly?

If so, then six of the seven would be considered "consenting" adults. And perhaps even the one under age was consenting, who knows if any of this is true. I have my doubts not because you posted it or because Mr. Joy investigated this, but because none of the 7 prosecuted TS or took him to court. I would certainly suggest to them that they do so as soon as possible.

http://www.save-3abn.com/danny-shelton-et-al-apologists-lee-01.htm

For someone who seems to think it's ok for a grown man to have sex with a minor if the minor consents; I think you would be best to keep your mouth shut. You are a sick woman.  Your statments lend NO crediblilty at all.

Duane, your ego is showing. No one cares whether you testify or not.   

Then why are you commenting on it? Sheesh...some of you people are really stressing over this.

Just to set the record straight in as little words as possible: NO I DID NOT SAY THAT samuelthomas so you can stop repeating Pickle's LIES.  Have fun in court next month.

[Adam]

samuelthomas on AT
by Breezy » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:28 pm UTC

It is time I make a definite statement here concerning accusations by Pickle and now taken up by smauelthomas.

They both have said on AT that supposedly I think it is okay for a grown pedophile to molest a minor if they consent to it. I've NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER said anything like that so I suggest you get off that kick because it is making you look like complete morons. Please, get a grip. Both of you would do better to keep your mouths shut so as to try to help us remove all doubt that you are both fools.

Well, Mrs. Junebug, it don't take a rocket scientist to read the above post that George posted, and see exactly what you said.  It speaks for itself.

[mrst53]

Wow, July can't come soon enough

[ex3abnemployee]

samuelthomas on AT
by Breezy » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:28 pm UTC

It is time I make a definite statement here concerning accusations by Pickle and now taken up by smauelthomas.

They both have said on AT that supposedly I think it is okay for a grown pedophile to molest a minor if they consent to it. I've NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER said anything like that so I suggest you get off that kick because it is making you look like complete morons. Please, get a grip. Both of you would do better to keep your mouths shut so as to try to help us remove all doubt that you are both fools.

Well, Mrs. Junebug, it don't take a rocket scientist to read the above post that George posted, and see exactly what you said.  It speaks for itself.

She also said she knows for a fact that Tommy will be found innocent.

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

by Breezy » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:28 pm UTC

She also said she knows for a fact that Tommy will be found innocent.

Well, here is a case where BREEZY clearly does not have her "fact" straight or is she tampering
with the jury? Personally, I hope you are jury tampering because that will get you 5-10 in the
pen!!! Maybe she gets a spot next to her pedophilic predator hero, Tommy Lee Shelton!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter
"Radical, Right-Wing, Tea-Party Fundementalist" by Proclamation of Dr Lawrence Gerraty

[Adam]

by Breezy » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:28 pm UTC

She also said she knows for a fact that Tommy will be found innocent.

Well, here is a case where BREEZY clearly does not have her "fact" straight or is she tampering
with the jury? Personally, I hope you are jury tampering because that will get you 5-10 in the
pen!!! Maybe she gets a spot next to her pedophilic predator hero, Tommy Lee Shelton!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter
"Radical, Right-Wing, Tea-Party Fundementalist" by Proclamation of Dr Lawrence Gerraty

As sick as this may sound- I think she might like that.

[Bob Pickle]

For someone who seems to think it's ok for a grown man to have sex with a minor if the minor consents; I think you would be best to keep your mouth shut. You are a sick woman.  Your statments lend NO crediblilty at all.

Duane, your ego is showing. No one cares whether you testify or not.   

Then why are you commenting on it? Sheesh...some of you people are really stressing over this.

Just to set the record straight in as little words as possible: NO I DID NOT SAY THAT samuelthomas so you can stop repeating Pickle's LIES.  Have fun in court next month.

It is no lie that you have repeatedly refused to say that even if a minor "consents," it makes no difference.

[princessdi]

Ok, GRAT, I was remembering correctly.  Brenda is the is the friend who even went to Norway with Linda, but then turned out to be not such a good friend.  Barbara, I remember had some issues.  She had some kind of angle, too, that we just could not figure out. There was some kind of issue surrounding the circumstances of the treatment in Norway.......As I said a very colorful cast of characters to be sure!  LOL!!

Again, if I am remembering correctly BK was a little of both plus she had a cooking show on 3ABM or had made programs she wanted to be aired.  There was some issue of her getting back her tapes after Linda left.  Not sure of all the issues as my memory is not that clear.  There was a lot of stuff going around and it was some years ago.  Her mother wrote a letter that might have led some to believe that she (BK) had found something "juicy" when she was in Norway for treatment.   

[mrst53]

Sometimes I think someone could use this for a script for a soap opera. It would make a good one, if it wasn't so sad. So many people getting hurt and so many people in charge covering up.

[Adam]

Duane, your ego is showing. No one cares whether you testify or not.   

Also, I am going to add one more thing to this statement, Junebug.  Of course you would post something like that.  You would have a problem with anyone testifying against TS.  As you have so vehmently claimed yourself, you know for sure TS will be found innocent.

So, of course, you wouldn't care. Or Would you?  You are scared to death that any testimony would go against TS.  I think you would be best advised to support the victims than support a pedophile.

[Johann]

Sex Offender Lawyer Loses A Case – Vows to Appeal
March 21, 2009 — batteredmomslosecustody

With news every day about sex offenders, what makes this case worthy of discussing? The Maryland lawyer who brazenly advertizes his expertise on childsexcrimes.com

“Tom Pavlinic represents people who have been falsely accused of sexual abuse”

[mrst53]

Maybe TS should start sweating

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

Sex Offender Lawyer Loses A Case – Vows to Appeal
March 21, 2009 — batteredmomslosecustody

“Tom Pavlinic represents people who have been falsely accused of sexual abuse”

So, if Pavlinic only represents "falsely accused", has anyone wondered why he is representing Tommy Ray Shelton?
Is he blind, can't read, hasn't done his background yet??? Or, can we assume Pavlinic's conscience will awaken him
he negotiates a short sentence for a large fee!!!

Anyone seen the docket and seen the Defendant's Witness List? Someone should suggest the Defendant testify in
his own behalf!!! Don't forget Danny Lee Shelton and the Conard family!!! Now that is a winning ticket...for the State!!!

If he takes this to trial, I would safely predict another "Guilty" verdict.

Gailon Arthur Joy, a Radical, Right-wing, Tea-party fundamentalist per the declaration of Dr. Lawrence Geraty
AUReporter

[Adam]

The attacks have begun! Thought I woud post this to show the ignorance of some.
John C. Manly
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John C. Manly
by Lilly » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:19 am UTC

Some say this man is "notorious" for working with clergy abuse. Looks like he is "notorious" for other reasons too.

http://www.themediareport.com/topic-joh ... -index.htm
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Re: John C. Manly
by Cynthia » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:00 pm UTC

Lilly wrote:
Some say this man is "notorious" for working with clergy abuse. Looks like he is "notorious" for other reasons too.

http://www.themediareport.com/topic-joh ... -index.htm

Hmmmm... interesting.

Welcome to our forum Lilly, (I am sure you'll do fine, but as always, all new members are advised to read our forum policy and rules before posting in order to prevent future misunderstandings or problems from occurring and to promote healthy discussion ), and thanks for the link and information. I can't say I am even surprised here. It looks to me like Mr Manley is right up their alley and will fit in well with that group. He looks expensive though... Of course they have had all kinds of questions about who is paying for the other attorney etc, and keep trying to imply 3ABN is ( NOT, the defendant is) but doubt they will understand those same questions apply to their side. It is understandable to me that a defendant needs to retain a lawyer, but maybe someone here can explain here to me why it was necessary to retain this l"John C. Manly" ? I thought the State of Virginia had filed the case, and the Prosecutor was going to be "prosecuting" And how, if the 2 accusers don't know each other and don't communicate, as was reported (and by one of them in court even), do they both end up with the same attorney?~ Cindy
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Re: John C. Manly
by Truth » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:40 pm UTC

Sounds like Attorney Manly has a dubious past. I can't answer your questions Cynthia but I agree with your assessments. It does seem strange that the victims would need a lawyer but of course it is something they can do.

Welcome Lilly. I'm sure you've been reading a lot here.