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Re: May 6, 2010: Fairfax County Court finds probable cause
« Reply #75 on: May 13, 2010, 10:02:45 PM »

Uuuhhhh where do you live? I know this story!  LOL!!!       You know NCC just paid, or should have just paid something approaching $10mil to one girl who was molested at one of our schools here.  He came from Idaho as a convicted, registered child molester..........."nobody" knew that........after molesting at least two girls at the school here.........he went on the Nevada to a Jr. academy to continue........at least he was finally convicted again and sent to prison when he had sex with a 15 year old there.............sigh.....................background checks.....yeah right!  LOL!!

I have another question- don't churches normally do a background check on new pastors and other employees? Or do they just take other people's word for their good background?  What a joke :ROFL: I am not laughing at any of you, because in my old Baptist church, this is what happened to us.  The preacher that came to us, had come with such a glowing recommendation :thumbsup:, should have been the 1st thing the pastoral committee noticed.
After we got him, we found out why- they could hardly wait to get rid of him :ROFL: That's why they said he was so GREAT! Seems the church before theirs had done the same thing and they could hardly wait to get rid of him ;D
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Re: May 6, 2010: Fairfax County Court finds probable cause
« Reply #76 on: May 13, 2010, 10:52:25 PM »

I found this posted over at BlackSDA.  Posted July 2007. Under the thread "Will Victims be Vindicated?" 
I believe the Poster was: Ozzie.
Posted 15 July 2007 - 07:49 PM

From AAP:
US$660m payout in clergy abuse cases
Monday Jul 16 05:49 AEST
The Roman Catholic Church in Los Angeles will pay a record US$660 million settlement to more than 500 victims of sexual abuse by clergy.

A statement announcing the deal between lawyers representing 508 victims and the Los Angeles archdiocese is expected to head off a potentially explosive court case.

"Some of the victims have waited more than five decades for a chance at reconciliation and resolution," said Ray Boucher, the lead attorney for victims in the case. "This is a down payment on that debt long overdue."

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Attorneys for both sides will appear in Los Angeles Superior Court to file the settlement, which must be approved by a judge, Boucher said.

"It's been a long, hard slog," church attorney J. Michael Hennigan told the Los Angeles Times. "I'm delighted to see it's come to a conclusion."

The 660-million-dollar deal, which covers cases dating as far back as the 1940s, will be the largest settlement by any Roman Catholic archdiocese to sex abuse victims in the United States.

Abuse cases across the country have cost Roman Catholic churches around US$2.1 billion to date. Several priests have been convicted and at least four dioceses have gone bankrupt paying civil penalties.

The Los Angeles diocese is expected to sell off property to pay for the settlement. The Times reported earlier this year that the diocese, America's largest, had real estate holdings of around US$4 billion.

The church had already settled 46 cases in December for US$60 million.

John Manly, a lawyer who represented around 50 victims who now stand to receive payouts of around US$1.25 million, said the archdiocese had settled to avoid the embarrassment of a court case.

Manly said the release of internal documents as part of the settlement would raise questions over the leadership of Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony.

"I think when people see the documents and see what he knew and what he did they will be stunned," Manly said.

Victims accuse Mahony of allegedly covering up evidence of child molestation by transferring priests to other churches and for trying to keep the abuse reports secret.

"Cardinal Mahony paying out money is great, but where is the accountability from the hierarchy of the church?" Manly said. "They will continue their lives as normal; the victims still have to deal with a lifetime of problems."

Manly questioned why Mahony had not been held to account.

"If what transpired under his leadership was bad enough to pay a half billion dollars, why is he still walking free, and why hasn't the district attorney taken action against him?" Manly said.

The abuse cases also highlighted a failing of the justice authorities, Manly added.

"I hope this causes the power structure — Los Angeles law enforcement, the courts, the people in power — to look at what happened and ask how, in the midst of all this stuff for 50 years, only three priests were convicted," he said.

"By any standard that tells you law enforcement was turning a blind eye to this."

Barbara Blaine, the leader of nationwide victims support group Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP), meanwhile called the settlement "wonderful news for all the victims."

She praised the "brave victims, compassionate lawmakers and victims' attorneys, who took hard, uncertain cases and overcame seemingly endless hardball tactics by bishops" to win the case.

Blaine said she believed the church had settled not out of compassion, but to avoid disclosing "under oath, in open court, how much the church's corporate officials knew about and how little they did about pedophile priests, nuns, brothers and seminarians."

Blaine said she hoped the church documents detailing the abuse cases would expose the truth.

"No amount of money can give the victims back their lost innocence and stolen childhoods, but hopefully this will put some closure on very painful part of their lives," she said.

The Los Angeles settlement dwarfs figures from other cases. The previous biggest payout was in Boston, where victims accepted a deal worth US$157 million dollars.

Hopefully, we will see the victims associated with 3ABN vindicated, as these people have. Some have waited over 50 years to have this happen. May the people who have allegedly been victims associated with any of our Churhes or associated ministries, not have to wait that long.
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Re: May 6, 2010: Fairfax County Court finds probable cause
« Reply #77 on: May 14, 2010, 01:26:34 PM »

Hopefully, we will see the victims associated with 3ABN vindicated, as these people have. Some have waited over 50 years to have this happen. May the people who have allegedly been victims associated with any of our Churhes or associated ministries, not have to wait that long.

Vindication needs to come about for the 3ABN victims.
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Re: May 6, 2010: Fairfax County Court finds probable cause
« Reply #78 on: May 14, 2010, 01:57:45 PM »

Hopefully, we will see the victims associated with 3ABN vindicated, as these people have. Some have waited over 50 years to have this happen. May the people who have allegedly been victims associated with any of our Churhes or associated ministries, not have to wait that long.

Vindication needs to come about for the 3ABN victims.

Vindication needs to come for ALL victims.
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Re: May 6, 2010: Fairfax County Court finds probable cause
« Reply #79 on: May 14, 2010, 02:19:34 PM »

Agreed, ST.
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Re: May 6, 2010: Fairfax County Court finds probable cause
« Reply #80 on: May 15, 2010, 07:59:06 PM »

Princess di,
 This particular incident happened in Stafford, VA. I don't know exactly when he came from except from another VA church and went to another VA church. Don't know where he has gone since then. I don't think anyone from our church said anything negative either. He ran our church way into debt- of course the elders let him. What idiots. I told them early on, things I had learned about him, because I worked closely with him, at the school. No one believed me. They thought I just didn't like him- I didn't :ROFL:
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Re: May 6, 2010: Fairfax County Court finds probable cause
« Reply #81 on: May 15, 2010, 09:56:28 PM »

Well, the incident I am talking about is occuring as we speak on the left coast in Cali.............Man!!!


Princess di,
 This particular incident happened in Stafford, VA. I don't know exactly when he came from except from another VA church and went to another VA church. Don't know where he has gone since then. I don't think anyone from our church said anything negative either. He ran our church way into debt- of course the elders let him. What idiots. I told them early on, things I had learned about him, because I worked closely with him, at the school. No one believed me. They thought I just didn't like him- I didn't :ROFL:

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Re: May 6, 2010: Fairfax County Court finds probable cause
« Reply #82 on: May 16, 2010, 03:46:13 AM »

Princess di,
 This particular incident happened in Stafford, VA. I don't know exactly when he came from except from another VA church and went to another VA church. Don't know where he has gone since then. I don't think anyone from our church said anything negative either. He ran our church way into debt- of course the elders let him. What idiots. I told them early on, things I had learned about him, because I worked closely with him, at the school. No one believed me. They thought I just didn't like him- I didn't :ROFL:


Mrst53...Didn't I read somewhere that you was a member of this church, where Tommy pastored?  If this is or was the case; Do you think you could find out why Tommy was hired in midst of these allegations?
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Re: May 6, 2010: Fairfax County Court finds probable cause
« Reply #83 on: May 16, 2010, 12:42:21 PM »

If Danny Shelton and his brothers were innocent he'd never be making all those phone calls threatening people. Acts of desperation!!!
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Re: May 6, 2010: Fairfax County Court finds probable cause
« Reply #84 on: May 16, 2010, 12:58:05 PM »

Samuel,
 I have been trying to do that. I was a member when I was growing up,but left the church in 1973. I still keep in touch with friends who know some people still there. I think I am going to try and get in touch with Jennings B. Wood(Barnie). He was the pastor there when I was there and began the church. He still has a church in my area and I am sure he is sick at heart at what went on. If I find out anything, I will let you know.
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Re: May 6, 2010: Fairfax County Court finds probable cause
« Reply #85 on: May 16, 2010, 02:42:18 PM »

Samuel,
 I have been trying to do that. I was a member when I was growing up,but left the church in 1973. I still keep in touch with friends who know some people still there. I think I am going to try and get in touch with Jennings B. Wood(Barnie). He was the pastor there when I was there and began the church. He still has a church in my area and I am sure he is sick at heart at what went on. If I find out anything, I will let you know.

That would be great!
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Re: May 6, 2010: Fairfax County Court finds probable cause
« Reply #86 on: May 18, 2010, 01:44:09 AM »

I read something interesting on Yahoo news that might interest the Tommy Ray Shelton supporters and victims:


WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court ruled Monday that federal officials can indefinitely hold inmates considered "sexually dangerous" after their prison terms are complete...

Click on the link to read the rest of the story:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100517/ap_on_go_su_co/us_supreme_court_sex_offender_law


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Re: May 6, 2010: Fairfax County Court finds probable cause
« Reply #87 on: May 18, 2010, 04:38:29 AM »

I read something interesting on Yahoo news that might interest the Tommy Ray Shelton supporters and victims:


WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court ruled Monday that federal officials can indefinitely hold inmates considered "sexually dangerous" after their prison terms are complete...

Click on the link to read the rest of the story:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100517/ap_on_go_su_co/us_supreme_court_sex_offender_law



I saw that. I thought that was interesting that it came out right now.
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Re: May 6, 2010: Fairfax County Court finds probable cause
« Reply #88 on: May 18, 2010, 09:06:32 AM »

Samuel, I finally found the original Pastor address and phone # of Dunn Loring Church of God before Tommy came there. I just don't know how to approach him. I haven't seen nor talked to him in years. Any ideas???????
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Re: May 6, 2010: Fairfax County Court finds probable cause
« Reply #89 on: May 18, 2010, 09:18:47 AM »

I read the history of your church. Seems to be in the metropolitan area of Washington DC. It mentions various pastors and missionaries and ministries. Tommy Shelton seems wiped off the record and his name appears nowhere.

You hear of the places where the church met right from the beginning, building projects, etc.
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