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Bob Pickle

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Re: Subpoena Prompts CALL TO ACTION!
« Reply #60 on: May 15, 2008, 10:39:16 AM »

Can't you try to be a little more accurate when you post? The subpoenas Gailon was referring to were ones to others, not himself. I think you were already corrected on this matter once before.

Where did Gailon say the statements of the 3ABN attorneys were credible?
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Re: Subpoena Prompts CALL TO ACTION!
« Reply #61 on: May 15, 2008, 11:55:39 AM »

Can't you try to be a little more accurate when you post? The subpoenas Gailon was referring to were ones to others, not himself. I think you were already corrected on this matter once before.

Where did Gailon say the statements of the 3ABN attorneys were credible?

Readers,

Gailon did not say the attorneys were credible, his words and actions show what they said was accurate as should be obvious by reading my post.



Despite Pickles attempt at diversion here, and casting doubts on the attorneys as being less than credible, no one this morning on this thread or the other has been discussing subpoenas to others, (and Gailon hasn't even taken part in this discussion.)  Further, nothing I quoted is about subpoenas to others, it was about the subpoena to Gailon... and the court order regarding the exam of Gailon...

How is Pickle going to resolve anything with anyone when he continually takes all out of context and misinterprets what's said and then claims others aren't accurate.

How much more accurate can I get when I am providing direct quotes? He's not...


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Re: Subpoena Prompts CALL TO ACTION!
« Reply #62 on: May 15, 2008, 01:53:40 PM »

Further, nothing I quoted is about subpoenas to others, it was about the subpoena to Gailon...

Totally false. Now was your falsehood told in ignorance or on purpose?

You quoted:

I wonder if anybody will be informed if and when the subpoena info is sent out by BlueHost.

I wonder if I will be informed that subpoenas were issued???

Gailon Arthur Joy

Gailon's statement which you quoted is about subpoenas to others, such as BlueHost and Calvin. Gailon says he didn't get either one, and I didn't get the first one to Calvin until I begged and begged for it.
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Re: Subpoena Prompts CALL TO ACTION!
« Reply #63 on: May 15, 2008, 01:55:50 PM »

By the way, when you say that the 3ABN attorneys are credible, are you saying that Gerry Duffy was correct when he invoked common law copyright for his letter about 30 years after it was abolished anywhere within the U.S.?

And are you saying that Jerrie Hayes was correct in saying that there is no IRS criminal investigation going on, and that Greg Thompson and AppleTree were lying when they indicated otherwise?
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Re: Subpoena Prompts CALL TO ACTION!
« Reply #64 on: May 15, 2008, 08:34:27 PM »

Ian,

It is so good to see you back. You sure liven up the show.

You remember when you accused me of appearing at the 2004 Examination by Parties that have already surrendered their prepetiotn claim (remember the stipulation?) and giving away all that information...you know, the very stuff you are now saying I did not produce?

Keep in mind that 3ABN does not have standing but we opted not contest that at the time so they could plainly see we had not hidden a thing...after all, this an asset hunt, not discovery, and here is the rule for your edification:

Rule 2004. Examination
(a) Examination on motion.
On motion of any party in interest, the court may order the examination of any entity.
(b) Scope of examination.
The examination of an entity under this rule or of the debtor under § 343 of the Code may relate only to the acts, conduct, or property or to the liabilities and financial condition of the debtor, or to any matter which may affect the administration of the debtor's estate, or to the debtor's right to a discharge. In a family farmer's debt adjustment case under chapter 12, an individual's debt adjustment case under chapter 13, or a reorganization case under chapter 11 of the Code, other than for the reorganization of a railroad, the examination may also relate to the operation of any business and the desirability of its continuance, the source of any money or property acquired or to be acquired by the debtor for purposes of consummating a plan and the consideration given or offered therefor, and any other matter relevant to the case or to the formulation of a plan.


Well, my lovely lady, I warned you at the time I was more than happy to share my response I gave to them with all of you "just to be open and transparent":

Non-parties request for 2004 Examination

Petitioners Responses to 3ABN Exhibit A:

1.Objection, Petitioner reserves the right to challenge whether the Examiner is a party in interest pursuant to Rule 2004. However, to the best recollection of the Petitioner, he has no such documents.
2.Objection, Petitioner reserves the right to challenge whether the Examiner is a party in interest pursuant to Rule 2004. However, to the best recollection of the Petitioner, he has no such documents.
3.Objection, Petitioner reserves the right to challenge whether the Examiner is a party in interest pursuant to Rule 2004. Petitioner has no such documents except the personal joint checking account of the petitioner held jointly with the petitioners wife. Petitioner has no paper work or electronic data from the joint account pre-petition.
4.Objection, Petitioner reserves the right to challenge whether the Examiner is a party in interest pursuant to Rule 2004. However, petitioner was a independent contractor to New England Merchants, Corp until it’s demise in 2007. Petitioner does not recall being a licensee, officer, director, nor does the petitioner recall  having a known beneficial or equity ownership.
5.Objection, Petitioner reserves the right to challenge whether the Examiner is a party in interest pursuant to Rule 2004. However, petitioner has provided his copy of tax documents for 2005 and 2006 to Counsel and to the Trustee and apparently did not retain a copy. The only documents still in the petitioners possession are copied hereto.
6.Objection, Petitioner reserves the right to challenge whether the Examiner is a party in interest pursuant to Rule 2004. Petitioner has attached copies of 1099’s and a copy of office expense account of the petitioner from January 1, 2005 to the present that are available to the petitioner.
7.Objection, Petitioner reserves the right to challenge whether the Examiner is a party in interest pursuant to Rule 2004. Objection, Petitioners spouse is not a petitioner and the request clearly exceeds the Scope of Examination under FRBP Rule 2004 (b). To the degree it is relevant the spouse suffered a major coronary insult in May 2005 and has not been employed in 2006 or 2007.            .
8.See answer to 5 and 6.
9.Objection, Petitioner reserves the right to challenge whether the Examiner is a party in interest pursuant to Rule 2004. Objection- attorney client privilege – atty work product and clearly exceeds the Scope of Examination under FRBP Rule 2004 (b).
10.See production under 6 above. Petitioner was a signatory to a joint account only and has no pre-petition account information or document to the best of his recollection.
11.Objection, Petitioner reserves the right to challenge whether the Examiner is a party in interest pursuant to Rule 2004. Objection, overly broad, but Petitioner will provide all documents relevant to the date of the petition to the recollection of the petitioner. No other documents are known to exist.
12.Objection, Petitioner reserves the right to challenge whether the Examiner is a party in interest pursuant to Rule 2004. Objection, overly broad. Petitioner does not recall any document meeting the non-parties request.
13.Objection, Petitioner reserves the right to challenge whether the Examiner is a party in interest pursuant to Rule 2004. Objection, calls for speculation. Petitioner  has no recollection of any information relating to the transfer of domain names, other than the Plaintiffs’ clear instructions that the petitioner did not wish to incur any liability for the renewal of the domain name nor for the ongoing expenses of the save3ABN.com hosting and webmaster costs of operation.


So, As can be seen we produced all that we had to produce!!! And we sat for two hours while they fumed and fussed and discovered I had no hidden assets, including a ledger of accounts back to 2004. ANd after all that time, the fools never asked a single question...not even my name and address for the record. So, now it is time to eject them so we can close and dismiss the BK and get back to a fight worth fighting.

In essence, Ms Ian, you can take it to the bank that you clearly cannot trust the statements of Counsel that has been sued by this Party. The most recent statement was their failure to produce document by May 4 as promised in writing. Thus th3e reason for the motions to compel. And it will not be the last time, either!!!

By the way, any word on the board meeting the past two days? Why don't you inquire and bring us up to date so I don't have to.

Still great to see you back...you provide such an excellent platform to discredit the loyal opposition.

Gailon Arthur Joy
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Re: Subpoena Prompts CALL TO ACTION!
« Reply #65 on: May 16, 2008, 08:07:36 PM »

BSDA has a new Subpoena pending. Time for action is dead ahead.

By the way, Ian, are you going to report on the Board Meeting of Wednesday and Thursday of last week? Better you spin it than I. You know, it has been more than 24 hours and the cracks are beginning to leak!!! Inquiring minds want to know???

Gailon Arthur Joy

PS: By the way, Can you check for me and let me know if it was the Chairman that had to break the tie? Makes for a beefier story.
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Re: Subpoena Prompts CALL TO ACTION!
« Reply #66 on: July 02, 2008, 04:42:24 PM »

Maybe it\\\\\\\'s time for folks like Farn, who have posted a lot of important info at BlackSDA, to bring it here as well.

Here, Here!!! I second that motion. If BSDA has lost it\\\\\\\'s nerves, then let Advent Talk become the repository for the Truth, the Whole Truth and nothing but the Truth.

Gailon Arthur Joy

It would be very helpful for Fran to begin posting here on AdventTalk the financial information she has obtained.

Do not forget to include your letter here:

http://www.save-3abn.com/news-releases-irs-criminal-investigation-11-30-07.htm



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Re: Subpoena Prompts CALL TO ACTION!
« Reply #67 on: July 02, 2008, 04:54:31 PM »

BSDA has a new Subpoena pending. Time for action is dead ahead.

Calvin posted on Blacksda yesterday that at the advice of his attorney he has complied with the subpoena.

I am rather surprised that neither Bob or you have announced that here yet.

http://www.blacksda.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21696&st=15&#entry251463

 

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Re: Subpoena Prompts CALL TO ACTION!
« Reply #68 on: July 02, 2008, 05:11:05 PM »

Ummm, I guess maybe I can't read? But, would you mind telling me the words you are reading that say what you say calvin said in his post??? I'm not seeing it.
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Re: Subpoena Prompts CALL TO ACTION!
« Reply #69 on: July 02, 2008, 05:18:37 PM »

Ummm, I guess maybe I can\'t read? But, would you mind telling me the words you are reading that say what you say calvin said in his post??? I\'m not seeing it.

Unless I misunderstood. These are the words:

\"In fact most hosting companies have privacy policy statements that state they will compile with subpoena as at the advice of my attorney I have done here.

I see Calvin is online here and will make some kind of post about this.
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Re: Subpoena Prompts CALL TO ACTION!
« Reply #70 on: July 02, 2008, 05:39:51 PM »

Ummm, I guess maybe I can\\\'t read? But, would you mind telling me the words you are reading that say what you say calvin said in his post??? I\\\'m not seeing it.

Unless I misunderstood. These are the words:

In fact most hosting companies have privacy policy statements that state they will compile with subpoena as at the advice of my attorney I have done here.

I see Calvin is online here and will make some kind of post about this.

For some reason I am unable to modify my post.

I meant to say.
I see Calvin is online here maybe he will make some kind of post about this and clear this up.
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Re: Subpoena Prompts CALL TO ACTION!
« Reply #71 on: July 02, 2008, 05:42:40 PM »

Calvin hasn't posted here about this yet.

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« Reply #72 on: July 02, 2008, 06:20:22 PM »

Calvin hasn\'t posted here about this yet.

It looks like he left.
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Re: Subpoena Prompts CALL TO ACTION!
« Reply #73 on: July 02, 2008, 06:27:40 PM »

I think you misunderstood.  My interpretation is that Calvin has posted a privacy policy at BSDA on the advice of his attorney:

http://www.blacksda.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=21991&view=findpost&p=244202


Ummm, I guess maybe I can\'t read? But, would you mind telling me the words you are reading that say what you say calvin said in his post??? I\'m not seeing it.

Unless I misunderstood. These are the words:

\"In fact most hosting companies have privacy policy statements that state they will compile with subpoena as at the advice of my attorney I have done here.

I see Calvin is online here and will make some kind of post about this.
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Re: Subpoena Prompts CALL TO ACTION!
« Reply #74 on: July 02, 2008, 08:46:50 PM »

BSDA has a new Subpoena pending. Time for action is dead ahead.

Calvin posted on Blacksda yesterday that at the advice of his attorney he has complied with the subpoena.

I am rather surprised that neither Bob or you have announced that here yet.

http://www.blacksda.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21696&st=15&#entry251463


What you do not seem to understand is that we are not parties to the subpoena and it would be those represented by public citizen that would have to take action. We have not been noticed of a new date or time for deposition, let alone for production, but Calvin's position is no surprise. He had laid the foundation for a change in position early on and there is nothing there that is any damage to our case.

In fact, there is nothing there that would be of concern in any event. THe gestapo has little they can do to effectively use the information they think they will get. And even if they get it, other than intimidation, there is little they can really do with it. SO, if you have backbone and character, being known is not an issue. YUpou can either stand by what you say or you are factually challenged.
I will stand by what I have said. I am known and have never used a pseudonym!!

Gailon Arthur Joy
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