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And Now for the other side of the story...
« on: March 28, 2010, 09:51:17 AM »

In perusing the documents available in the " 3ABN (Links & Resources)" section here for viewing I noticed it is basically one-sided -- as usual. To balance things out I am posting the following documents and letters. It would be appreciated if they could be moved to where the other documents are that so readers could see all. Otherwise this thread will have to suffice.

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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2010, 09:52:46 AM »

From: Walt Thompson
To: [...]
Subject: Letter for Linda
Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 21:43:07 -0500

Dear Linda,
This is a copy of the letter that has been sent by FEDEX to you. While you may not understand now, someday you will realize that we are truly desirous of returning you to your home and ministry because we care about you. I plan to go to 3ABN tomorrow and will be available to talk with you if you have questions needing clarification.

Walt

[FEDEX Letter]
May, 4, 2004

Walter Thompson MD
Chairman of 3ABN Board of Directors
- address removed -

Linda Shelton
Three Angel's Broadcasting Network
PO Box 220
West Frankfort, IL 62896

Dear Linda,


A committee representing the 3ABN board of directors has been selected and has met for the purpose of evaluating the present problem at 3ABN relating to your relationship to Danny and to the ministry of 3ABN - and seeking a resolution acceptable to all parties involved. This letter is intended to represent the will of the board.


Let me begin by expressing our gratitude to you for the part you have played at 3ABN for the past nearly twenty years. You have been an important part of the ministry from the beginning – a fact appreciated by us all. Accordingly, this letter is not written with the intent to destroy your home or your part in the ministry, but rather to rehabilitate and restore.


In accordance with this intent, we are offering the following proposal to you. We believe it has the potential of accomplishing the desired objectives, i.e., to save both your home and a place for you in this ministry. It would do so without making the details of this matter known to the full board or others.


Nor is this letter expressing an opinion regarding the nature of your relationship with Dr. Abrahamson. Whether or not this relationship has been immoral or not is not the issue of this document. The facts are that the relationship and your refusal to discontinue it in spite of repeated requests by Danny and our requests, has damaged both your family and 3ABN – a reality we must deal with in wisdom, love and compassion – but deal with, we must.


We are offering you a 30 day leave of absence with pay and full benefits - to begin at the time of receipt of this letter. During this time the following conditions must be met.


You will be relieved of all duties at 3ABN and will not appear at 3ABN other than to obtain items from your immediate office upon personal request from me. You will arrange to leave Southern Illinois at 3ABN expense for the duration. Both you and 3ABN need time to cool off.


You will agree in writing to cease all communication with Dr. Abrahamson, whether direct or indirect, whether by e-mail, telephone, letter or any other, or through Johann or any other third party. We are designating a period of 30 days, but with the intent this must be a life-long decision.


During this time you will not discuss the issues related to your relationship with 3ABN with anyone other than your immediate family, your professional counselors or representatives or members of the board of directors.


Since this time is recommended as a time for reflection and serious rehabilitation we are requesting that you arrange to receive professional help relating to the issues at hand. We are recommending Ron and Nancy Rocky to you. They have agreed to open their home to you and to give you personal help in dealing with the issues at the center of the present problems. It will be private and protected from the public eye such that neither your image nor reputation ought be damaged. Should you choose different professional help, it must be acceptable to this committee.


At the end of 30 days we will reassess the situation and make further recommendations as indicated.


The issues in this proposal are not negotiable. Should they be unacceptable to you – we hope sincerely they will be acceptable – we will proceed promptly with further investigation of the facts regarding the matter at hand. In that case we will need a list of witnesses you would like us to hear. We will offer Danny the same opportunity. Once we have had opportunity to hear the evidence, we will be in a better position to make recommendations to the full board based upon that evidence. Based on the facts we already know, however, we think pursuing such a course would make any future role for you at 3ABN unlikely.


That is why, Linda, we are pleading with you to accept this proposal for healing and restoration. This is God's ministry. He has chosen you to be a part of it. We want you to continue to be a part of it. But in order for that to happen really important things must change.


Sincerely,
Walter Thompson MD
Chairman of the Board of Directors, 3ABN Committee members include Nicholas P. Miller, Bill Hulsey and Kay Kuzma (by invitation)

Your signature here will confirm your agreement with this proposal. Please sign and return copy within 24 hours of receipt of this letter.
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2010, 09:57:45 AM »

Separation Agreement Between

Three Angels Broadcasting Network, Inc.

and

Linda Shelton




Three Angels Broadcasting Network, Inc. ("Three Angels") and Linda Shelton ("Mrs. Shelton"), hereby agree to the following terms and conditions:


1. Three Angels agrees to pay Linda Shelton, within seven days of the signing of this document by both parties, the sum of $45,000. Three Angels agrees to transfer to Linda the rights, including the masters, to the five musical CD projects that she has had a primary role in (two solo projects and three duet projects with Danny and Linda) and the eight musical songs on video from the I Think About Grace album.



2. Three Angels agrees to pay Linda Shelton, within seven days of the signing of this agreement by both parties, a further sum of $45,000.



3. Three Angels also agrees to pay Linda Shelton $75,000 for each of the years 2005 and 2006. This money will be paid out in 24 equal installments ($6,250.00) beginning the first Monday of January, 2005, and continuing to be paid on the first Monday of each month for the next 23 months, ending with the payment on the first Monday of December 2006. These payments shall continue to be made only insofar as Mrs. Shelton complies with the conditions specified below.



4. All the above payment amounts represent gross severance pay and settlement figures, and the actual amount given to Mrs. Shelton will be reduced by the amount that employers are required to withhold by law for state and federal income taxes and other mandatory withholdings.


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5. Linda Shelton agrees that, in consideration for the $90,000 which she will receive in seven days from the time that both parties sign this agreement, she will not bring any lawsuit, legal action, or other claim against Three Angels Broadcasting Network, any of its officers or directors, or any of its employees, in any court, forum, tribunal or proceeding for damages, whether compensatory or punitive, compensation, or other relief.



6. Linda Shelton agrees that, in consideration for the $90,000 and for the monthly payments that will commence in January 2005, that she will not make public statements critical of Three Angels, the board of directors, or any of its officers or employees. Public statements include those made on the air, whether via radio or television, in print, whether in newspapers, magazines, books or other printed sources, or circulated on the internet in the form of e-mail or web-postings, or made at churches or other public meeting sites. She also agrees that she will not make statements in private for her friends, agents, or third parties to attribute to her in a public manner as described above. If her friends, agents or other third parties make public statements critical of Three Angels, Mrs. Shelton shall immediately, upon notification by Three Angels, cooperate with Three Angels and request in writing and by telephone, if reasonably possible, that public statements made by third parties discontinue. If she does not so cooperate, any such public statements by third parties will be considered to be those of Mrs. Shelton, will be viewed as violation of this section, and will result in the termination of the payments to her described in Section 3.



7. Any dispute that arises out of this contract or the relationship between Mrs. Shelton and Three Angels or any of its officers and directors, whether during the period of payment to Mrs. Shelton or afterwards, concerning its terms, application, or whether its standards have been met by the parties, shall be reso1ved through Christian arbitration, and shall not be taken up in


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any court system, whether judicial or administrative. Both parties hereby waive any legal recourse and agree that they will submit to binding arbitration, with no appeal, by a panel of three Seventh-day Adventist Christians. This panel will be chosen in the following manner: Each side shall choose one Adventist Elder or Pastor in the North American Division. Those two persons shall then choose one other person that they can mutually agree on to chair the panel to arbitrate the dispute. The panel will hear testimony from both sides, consider any necessary evidence, and render a written decision that will be binding on the parties, with no further appeal allowed.



8. Nothing in the above shall prevent Mrs. Shelton from seeking a fair and equitable split of her marital property, which shall not include any property owned by Three Angels Broadcasting Network, in or out of court, in any separation or divorce proceeding. Any moneys received by Mrs. Shelton under this agreement shall be considered her separate and personal property, and not marital property.


[signed June 4 2004 by both parties]
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Re: And Now for the other side of the story...
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2010, 10:01:51 AM »

This letter was sent to the owner of the BSDA forum, and he subsequently published it.

Dear Calvin,

I have become aware that your site published Johann Thorvaldsson's article about "The Story of Linda Shelton."

Since I am mentioned in that article, I thought you might be interested in publishing a response to correct the misinformation given about my involvement.

If you need to call me, my # is xxx-xxx-xxxx.

Thank you.
Kay Kuzma

Here is my statement:

To those who may question my involvement with 3ABN and the circumstances which led up to Linda Shelton leaving 3ABN:

Yes, I was involved in what happened at 3ABN concerning Linda however the internet article in which you read about my involvement titled "The Story of Linda Shelton" by Johann Thorvaldsson, is saturated with the writer's biased personal perceptions and has very little to do with what actually happened. I was there – I know.

Rather than address each falsehood, which would be too time consuming, I will simply address the three major errors concerning me:

Here is what was printed about me: "Long before Linda's dismissal, Dr. Kay Kuzma was assigned to help Linda manage after being fired. She was also supposed to interview staff members to find a good reason to fire her, so one wonders what really is behind this upheaval?"

Here is what actually happened:

1) I was not brought in early – in fact, I was brought in during the last six weeks after Danny and Linda had been in months of counseling with professionals – with Linda still refusing to follow what the counselors suggested, i.e., unanimously the counselors told her that she would have to give up her relationship with the doctor in Norway who she was spending up to six hours each day talking with.

2) I was not brought in to help Linda "manage" after she was fired ... The committee I was on (and later the Board) repeatedly gave her opportunity to talk with them trying to bring resolution and restoration to both her ministry at 3ABN and her marriage. She refused at every point. There was never discussion concerning "firing" Linda when I became involved – only a discussion on how to help her. There was such a concern for Linda's reputation that the entire Board was not initially notified about the situation until it became an absolute necessity to do so. I was on a small committee of two Board members, the 3ABN attorney, and myself. The small committee's discussion centered on how to save Linda for ministry. Linda talked to me one time and refused any further contact I tried to make with her.

3) I was NOT asked by 3ABN to interview staff concerning Linda. Linda, herself, asked me to talk with the staff. She even gave me the specific names of the people she wanted me to talk with. The results from the interviews with the employees Linda suggested weren't flattering to her. When I tried to get back with her, she refused to answer my calls.

The overwhelming error in Mr. Thorvaldsson's account of the events surrounding Linda Shelton's departure from 3ABN gives witness to the fact that his observation was from many thousands of miles away and only receiving his information from the two involved in the duplicity.

Hopefully it has become apparent to you, as I pointed out the error contained in these three lines alone, that this entire article is full of misinformation. If you would like specific answers to any other point, I'll be happy to share. God is good and truth will prevail even though there are those who are trying to stir up controversy.

I believe the most important thing to understand is that eventually the fruit of a person's decisions will become evident. Although I will not comment further about what happened to lead up to Linda's departure from 3ABN, we know that the other man had been to the States and spent time with Linda before she left Danny, and that immediately after she left Danny, the other man was with Linda. A few weeks later they spent time traveling together through Europe.

Please remember, 3ABN is not Danny or Linda's ministry – it is God's, and every day we all see incredible miracles as God is moving

His ministry forward. It's been a very difficult time – as we all love Linda and recognize how much God used her in her role as co-host with Danny. God truly gifted her with the ability to write beautiful songs that have been a tremendous blessing to thousands.

Thanks for remembering 3ABN in your prayers – and thanks for not sharing Mr. Thorvaldsson's article with anyone else – since I know you don't want to be a part of spreading misinformation.

Sincerely,
Kay Kuzma
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Re: And Now for the other side of the story...
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2010, 10:06:42 AM »


Thompsonville 7th Day Adventist Church
3577 Angel Lane *
P.O. Box 23 Thompsonville, Illinois 62890
618-627-2999

October 27, 2005

Linda Shelton -- private address removed--

Dear Linda,

We hope that this letter finds you in the best of health. Since you left Thompsonville you have been on our hearts and in our prayers. It is in a spirit of deep spiritual concern that we pray that you will understand that this letter was written with eternal interest at heart. This letter is to inform you of the decision made by the Church Board of the Thompsonville Seventh-day Adventist Church with reference to your membership.

We received your membership request for transfer to the Springfield Seventh-day Adventist Church. After much discussion, prayer, and consideration, at the church board level, we have voted to call a church business session to recommend to the church that you be placed under censure.

The meeting is scheduled to be held on Saturday evening, November 19th following sunset.

It is your right to appear in person to represent yourself or to write a letter to the church to address the recommendation that the Church Board will make to the church in business session.You can also request that some time be given for you to respond before the matter is taken to church business session.

Because of the nature of the decision made we will await your response before November 17,2005. After that time if we have not heard from you by letter we will take the matter to business session, You ****** can send any correspondences to the address above. If you have any immediate concerns you can call pastor John Lomacang at .*****...

Yours In Christ

Pastor John Lomacang



October 31, 2005

Dear Pastor Lomacang and Thompsonville SDA Church Board Members,

I received your letter dated October 27, 2005. My participation in the SDA Church means very much to me, thus I take very seriously the message of your letter. Yet I strongly feel, John, that you are compromised because of your close association with Danny Shelton and your employment with 3 ABN and the “3 ABN Church.” (Also your dream. of many years to be on TV.) Additionally I feel that you, as the Church Board, are compromised since most of you work at 3AB1. Also, I feel the church members are compromised, to the matter at hand, because of the propaganda in which they have been saturated. I have yet to he approached by any of you for ministry purposes or to inquire about “my side of the story.’ Quite frankly I do not feel I would receive a fair hearing in this church. I protest the fact that you claim to go by the church manual in regards to censure, but you ignore the church manual when it comes to reaching out to the hurting one. Thus, I am formally requesting that as of today my membership be dropped from the church.

Let it be known that I am innocent of the rumors and allegations made against me. Let it be known that the separation from my husband and 3ABN was against my will. And let it be known. that I love my Church and the people in it enough to not publically broadcast in detail the wrongs that have been done to me. These facts would only hurt, not help.

In spite of the neglect of Christians during my dark days, God has been very good to me. I am blessed to have emerged with my sanity still intact and I have a brand new perspective; a perspective which has clearly revealed to me that many professed Christians have not yet found a genuine heart-felt relationship with Christ, For this, the heart of Jesus bleeds. Although man can remove job titles, etc, etc,, no man can take away my calling which I will continue to pursue. I still welcome your greetings and comments, thus I am including my email address. May God’s richest blessings be yours, and may God bless the Thompsonville SDA Church!

With warmest regards,
Linda Shelton,

Linda@ Lindashelton. org




77 Angel Lane
P.O. Box 23 ‘Thompsonville, Illinois 62890

January 14, 2006

Linda Shelton -private address removed-

Dear Linda,

Thank you for your speedy response to the letter the Church Board sent to you. I, was also pleased to speak to you when you called me Sabbath afternoon. I thought that our conversation went well and I listened to your observations hoping that we would be able to help you. I was somewhat surprised how soon you had Derrell Mundall hand deliver your reply letter to me at my office.

As I read it I was a bit disappointed to see that you expressed so little confidence in the church board, the church members, and in me. To incessantly suggest that the church is made of “compromised” members is quite short-sighted on your part. This board is not made of people bought by Danny Shelton. It is comprised of God-fearing Christians that understand all too well the great responsibility of making well informed decisions.

It is enlightening to see how you unceasingly, and relentlessly, attempted to dismiss your poor decision making by maligning others.

It was also quite manipulative on your part to imply that my “dreams of many years to be on TV” disqualified me as an objective pastor. Linda you may remember, it was at your urging that Danny called me to join the 3ABN family. At no time did I even call or suggest that I was interested in being on TV. Years before I even knew of 3ABN, Doug Batchelor and I were already on television; not to mention countless other times without Doug. It was on the heels of Net ‘99 in New York that I was invited to sing at 3ABN; prior to that I had not heard of 3ABN. The doors that opened at 3ABN were not opened by any dream on my part, of which there was none concerning 3ABN but by the hand of the Lord.As a matter of record you probably remember well when you said to me,”John, God brought you to St. Louis so that we could bring you the rest of the way.” To suggest that you will be not be able to receive fairness and impartiality is ludicrous.

Linda, as we look at the time-line of events you were the first one to call me and ask for counsel about your friendship with the doctor. It was after I arrived at your home that I heard the other side of the story. It was hearing both sides that led me to give you counsel to sever the relationship with the doctor from Norway. I made that decision as your pastor and as a marriage counselor with 16 years experience, not as a “back-pocket” servant of Danny Shelton.

It has been nearly two years since this escapade started and you will recall that from the very outset, that Tuesday night in your living room, when you made the decision not to sever your relationship with the doctor, you set the course that led you to where you are today. Linda, the decision to hold on to someone other than your husband in spite of the months of counseling, was a critical decision in furthering your downfall. To further compound the matter, you still held firmly to your course after the relentless pleading from your friends, confidants, pastors, 3ABN board members, and non-Adventist counselors to sever the relationship. One has to be quite short-sighted and uninformed to come to the conclusion that all of those people were ”compromised.”

You also mentioned that no one made an attempt to visit you and minister to you. Speaking for Angie and I, you may remember that when you made the decision to move to out of your home and go to Marion for ”more privacy,” we called you and asked if we could come and visit with you. You refused by saying that you were not ready and that you would let us know when you were ready for our visits. You never contacted us so we can only assume that you did not want a visit from us. Even when we saw you in the mall with Danny, we asked again about visiting and you said "I will tell you when.”

Many of the people that are still supporting your cause were not at ground zero. You continue to suggest that it was the subsequent decisions that other people made, rather than the initial one that you made that landed you where you are. One of the greatest evidences of hazardous decision-making on your part is the fact that you and the doctor are still in a relationship.

There was never a conspiracy to get rid of you and to refuse you a fair hearing. You were, and are greatly loved by many of the people at 3ABN and Thompsonville Seventh-day Adventist Church. However, love for someone and loyalty to them are not always the same. While we love you, we must be loyal to the truth and to the Lord. That is where we must be accountable.

God placed within your hands the responsibility of carrying a message to the world. It is unfortunate that you came to the place where your desires became more important than the responsibility placed on you through the message. Linda, God called you and the Bible says in Romans 11:29 ”For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.” God called King Saul and God called David; both of these followers of God sinned. The difference between a ”king” and a ”shepherd boy” was clearly seen. Saul was too great to repent and turn to God and the record is clear concerning his fate. David, although his fall was great, turned to God with the heart of a repentant servant. For our admonition David’s prayer of repentance was preserved in Psalm 139:23,24 (KJV),”Search me, 0 God, and know my heart; Try me and know my thoughts and see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.”

I read your recent response letter to the church board dated October 31,2005, and I hope that the declaration that you made, ”Let it be known that I am innocent of the rumors and allegations made against me, ”is not written in stone. Linda, on this note you were correct, ”Man can remove job titles.” However let me caution you about the rest of your declaration, ”No man can take away my calling which I will continue to pursue.” Saul pursued a course that dishonored God and God removed him. On the other hand David repented and pursued a course that opened the way for God to restore him. The eternal question is one to deeply and prayerfully ponder. Which course will you pursue? David humbled himself under the Almighty Hand of God and was restored. In spite of the dark stain of David’s past the apostle Paul preached a message that recalls the fate of these two great men. He writes in Acts 13:21-22 (NKJV),”And afterward they asked for a king; so God gave them Saul the son of Kish, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, for forty years. (22) “And when He had removed him, He raised up for them David as king, to whom also He gave testimony and said, ’l have found David the son of Jesse, a man after My own heart, who will do all My will.”

Linda, from the first night that I sat before you in your living room I made a statement that has so far proven to be true. I said to you, ”Satan wants to destroy you, your ministry, your career, and your marriage. ”The results are evidence that to this day Satan has prevailed. I am hoping that he will not prevail in robbing you of your salvation. Just recently I read the chapter ”Why Was Sin and Suffering Permitted,” from the book, ”Patriarchs & Prophets.” I was deeply impressed again by what I read to further warn you that you are still on enchanted grounds and that the enemy is not done. Here are a few of the quotes that opened my eyes:

“The angels whom he could not bring fully to his side, he accused of indifference to the interests of heavenly beings. The very work which he himself was doing, he charged upon the loyal angels. It was his policy to perplex with subtle arguments concerning the purposes of God. Everything that was simple he shrouded in mystery, and by artful perversion cast doubt upon the plainest statements of Jehovah. And his high position, so closely connected with the divine government, gave greater force to his representation.

“He had artfully presented his side of the question, employing sophistry and fraud to secure his objects. His power to deceive was very great. By disguising himself in a cloak of falsehood, he had gained an advantage. All his acts were so clothed with mystery that it was difficult to disclose to the angels the true nature of his work. Until fully developed, it could not be made to appear the evil thing it was; his disaffection would not be seen to be rebellion. Even the loyal angels could not fully discern his character or see to what his work was leading.”

“Rejecting with disdain the arguments and entreaties of the loyal angels, he denounced them as deluded slaves. The preference shown to Christ he declared an act of injustice both to himself and to all the heavenly host, and announced that he would no longer submit to this invasion of his rights and theirs.”

Linda, I saw that because of your great influence Satan would come at you with great intensity. If you persist in holding to the self-deceiving position that you have done nothing wrong, you are preparing yourself for the completion of Satan’s plan, complete destruction. As long as you play the role of total innocence, you are a gullible prey..

That is why we prayed for you when you were in your post at 3ABN and we will still pray for you. Our deepest prayer is that you discover that greatness comes not from being served but serving. We pray for your supporters because they only know the side that you presented. Our prayer is that the Lord will bring softness to your heart to make you a servant. At the end of the day it must be seen that it is “Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’ Says the LORD of hosts. ”Zechariah 4:6 (NKJV).

Linda, God has not called us to be famous but to be faithful. I pray that you will respond to the Holy Spirit’s call to faithfulness.

We deeply regret that you have made the final decision to have your membership dropped from the church, but we do not have the right to refuse your written “formal request.”

The church chose censure rather than removal of membership because it was our desire to connect you with a Seventh-day Adventist church where you could find spiritual healing and recovery, not to cause you any further hardship. It is not our prayer that you pursue your calling; it is our prayer that you pursue the heart of God.

Your greatest blessing will come when you are restored to wholeness in the sight of God. God will richly bless you, not on account of whom you are, but on account of whom He is. Seek His kingdom and His righteousness and all that He has for you will be added.

Yours in Christ,
Pastor John Lomacang
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Re: And Now for the other side of the story...
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2010, 10:25:22 AM »

Follow up post and letter to "Open letter from Barbara Kerr" which is posted on this forum in the " 3ABN (Links & Resources)" section here:
http://www.adventtalk.com/forums/index.php/topic,101.0.html

A number of people have queried me in regards to an individual who had always been a staunch supporter of Linda Sue Shelton. They were curious about her health (which had been of great concern at one point) and her where-abouts or what she was up to, as it had been a very long time since she had spoken out publicly. Two days ago the following letter was posted at BSDA (in case anyone doubts that this letter appears as it was post there, here is the direct LINK to the post):



Jun 18 2008, 05:07 PM
Post #278
Dear Friends of Barbara Kerr:

Barbara has asked me to write a letter regarding how and what she is doing now. It has been a little over a year since she has returned home from Norway and as she contemplated writing you all a letter (and she did start a few times) ~ she just didn't quite know what to say; Or, should I say, she didn't know what NOT to say. Last fall, she felt impressed not to post anything at that time, and given the direction the law suits have taken, I believe it was a wise decision to remain silent.

Her prayer has always been for the Lord to show her what the truth is regarding the 3ABN saga, and it was very interesting that while in Norway, He did just that. She originally planned a two month stay for treatment but then it was extended an additional month. Due to needing still more treatment, the doctor [Arild Abrahamsson]advised that she remain for the fourth month. Had Barbara returned home at the end of two months, or even three months, the information given her that fourth month just wouldn't have happened. Not that she pursued it...she didn't, not even knowing that it existed but, perhaps it was Providential that her stay was extended? We think so. Barbara was surprised, and disappointed, in what she learned and she struggled with what to share with all you folks. After several attempts at writing, but not comfortable with posting her findings, she has put it in the Lord's Hands and in His time, He will reveal all.


Barb is doing very well health-wise, and has enrolled in the Medical Assistant Program at a local university. She will complete that course of study with an associates in science in September of this year. There is some consideration for continuing on and completing a B.S.N. degree to become the R.N. she strove for when she first married but had to drop out due to her health issues with Crohn's. Barbara feels that going back to school has strengthened her ability to educate the public, and on a personal level, it's changed a negative situation into a positive one. She feels peaceful, happy and very blessed. Her son, Nathan, just graduated from Fletcher Academy and did so with Honor's and much recognition for his musical abilities. It looks as though he will attend Andrews University this fall and there is a possiblity of their entire family moving to Michigan later this year.

Barbara feels the Lord's leading in her life and that He is opening doors for her to go in a different direction. Taste Of Health is still an active ministry and she still accepts offers for speaking engagements and cooking schools. Her plans are to publish her third cookbook and also complete her autobiography.

We want to thank you for all your concern, interest, prayers and support of her through this most difficult situation. If you wish to contact her, you may do so through her website at: www.tasteofhealth.net or by email at: tasteofhealth@hotmail.com.

JoAnn, Barbara Kerr's Mother
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Re: And Now for the other side of the story...
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2010, 10:39:56 AM »

Law for Business P. 29
"Embezzlement
Fraudulent conversion of property lawfully possessed


Embezzlement: Fraudulent conversion of another's property by someone in lawful possession of the property. Embezzlement requires the intent to defraud the owner of the property. Conversion here means that the defendant handles the property inconsistathntly with the arrangement by which he or she has possession of it. Since many businesses rely on employees to receive payments and make disbursements, embezzlement is often a crime against a business..

FACTS:
Gailon A. Joy owned Credit management Services Corp., (CMS), a debt collection agency. When CMS made a collection, it would deposit the money in Barre, Vermont. CMS also had it's own separate account. However, CMS began transferring fund from the Barre account to it's own account to cover it's expenses. CMS received a collection for Stacey Fuel and Lumber Co., but never even told Stacey the money had been collected. A year later CMS filed for Bankruptcy. The State charged Joy with the crime of embezzling the collection made for Stacey. Joy claimed he intended to repay the money.

Outcome:
The Court upheld Joy's conviction, saying an intent to repay was irrelevant.
--State v. Joy, 549A.2d 1033 (VT)
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January 2007 - ASI Open Letter
Why ASI Chose to withdraw from Discussions


To Those It May Concern:

Answering a request last fall from Three Angels’ Broadcasting Network’s Board of Directors (afterward referred to as 3ABN), ASI agreed to explore the possibility of forming a commission “. . . to evaluate and determine Danny's legal and moral right to divorce and remarry . . .” [excerpt from 3ABN minutes].

ASI’s Executive Committee spent considerable time and effort from late September 2006 until early 2007 exploring that assignment. ASI’s Executive Committee met January 4 to review progress on establishing a commission. After a full discussion at that time, the Committee voted unanimously to withdraw from the process they had agreed to consider. A brief announcement was made by ASI, without stating any of the reasons for our withdrawal. We received questions from both ASI members and several Church leaders. All wanted to know the reasons for ASI’s action to withdraw. The Committee met again on January 9, 2007 and authorized the following explanation:


Reason for ASI’s Withdrawal

ASI’s decision to withdraw was not based on the merits of the divorce and remarriage issues or any of the other issues we were urged to consider. ASI’s decision was based solely on the barriers we encountered in attempting to reach agreement between the parties on a process whereby the commission would study the issues.


ASI’s Initial Considerations

ASI believed it could develop a process that would be fair to all parties, utilizing a panel of ASI members selected for their spirituality, fairness and intelligence. The parties would be chosen through a panel selection process. ASI proposed a process to assure a fair due process to all concerned.ASI believed it was essential that it have the active involvement of all parties in this process.


Danny and 3ABN Accept

By December 10, 2006, Danny Shelton (afterward referred to as Danny) and 3ABN had accepted the process proposed by ASI.


Unexpected Barriers

    * Linda [formerly Mrs. Danny Shelton] (afterward referred to as Linda) did not participate personally in discussions to develop an agreed upon process.
    * Linda identified Gaylon Arthur Joy (afterward referred to as Joy) as her representative. Joy, in turn, introduced Bob Pickle (afterward referred to as Pickle) and Greg Matthews (afterward referred to as Matthews) as his team members.
    * Linda’s team:
    * Did not accept that ASI was capable of providing a fair forum to decide the issues
    * Insisted on including issues involving allegations of mismanagement and corporate misconduct at 3ABN
    * Would not accept the ground rules for the panel’s procedures
    * Would not cease harassing e-mail contact with Danny or other 3ABN representatives
    * Would not cease, when requested to do so, circulating distracting comments about the process under discussion with ASI
    * We never learned whether Linda approved of the positions asserted by her team.At no time did Linda respond except to say that Joy would be her representative.

3ABN/ASI Relationship

ASI was open to whatever conclusion the facts would reveal, and we were disappointed that our efforts did not result in a resolution of the issues we had agreed to consider.

The ASI Executive Committee believes that 3ABN is a God-inspired and God-led instrument for the effective spread of the three angels messages to the world, and that it has been, and continues to be, a blessing to the worldwide Seventh-day Adventist Church.

ASI is an organization of member businesses and ministries that share a priority for the spread of the gospel in their marketplaces. 3ABN was introduced to ASI in the mid-1980's at our ASI Convention in Big Sky, Montana. At that time their television idea was just a dream. ASI was intrigued by their audacious plan of a lay-operated ministry providing a worldwide radio and television network with "straight" Seventh-day Adventist programming, 24/7. That meeting was the beginning of a mutually beneficial relationship, resulting in the growth of both 3ABN and ASI and in positive media exposure for hundreds of ASI members. Both Linda and Danny Shelton were viewed as capable leaders, deserving our respect and involvement with ASI.

In addition to great sadness for those who know them, the breakup of the Sheltons’ marriage and subsequent events brought much public comment that came to the notice of ASI, Church leadership and 3ABN’s viewers. Soon after: "The 3ABN Board of Directors voted unanimously on September 24 [2006] to request ASI to set up a commission to evaluate and determine Danny's legal and moral right to divorce and to re-marry" [excerpt from 3ABN minutes].

Attempts to Establish the Commission Panel

As ASI leadership was considering 3ABN's request, an e-mail message dated, October 3, 2006, was received by ASI’s president from Joy, hitherto unknown to ASI, saying in part:

“. . . Dr. Thompson [Walter Thompson, 3ABN Board Chair] has informed me that ASI has agreed to be the appropriate platform upon which to hear allegations regarding 3ABN. While I agree to that in theory, ASI is the appropriate platform and clearly has some jurisdiction here, and by voluntary assent would have full jurisdiction to hear the allegations and make appropriate findings, I also recognize there are some clear and serious conflicts that need to be clarified."

Joy’s memo included messages from others (unknown and unidentified to us) who seriously questioning whether ASI was an appropriate organization to be involved. As stated above, Joy himself was unknown to ASI leadership at that time. It was not known what his interest was in the matter until Linda later identified Joy as her representative. Joy then introduced Pickle and Matthews as part of Linda's team. Since that time Joy, Pickle and Matthews always were included in any correspondence sent to Linda.

October 25, 2006: The ASI Executive Committee took an action authorizing the exploration of becoming involved in the process and asked Harold Lance, past ASI president, to represent ASI and lead out in the commission’s process.

October 31, 2006: ASI circulated a document entitled "Procedural Suggestions" [see below] to Linda, Danny, their representatives, and to 3ABN.

Basic Concepts

ASI identified several basic concepts necessary for the process to succeed:

    * The involvement of Linda, Danny, and 3ABN was essential in order to reach a successful agreement regarding a fair process and then to come to a resolution of the dispute.
    * Widespread distracting interchanges on web sites and forums led us to believe that the discussions between ASI and all parties attempting to establish an agreement on the process (Linda, Danny, their representatives, and 3ABN) needed to be conducted with confidentiality.
    * Both “sides” (Linda’s and Danny’s) needed to stop direct critical comment with each other.

Procedural Suggestions

ASI suggested the following procedural/process concepts:

    * The panel selected to hear and decide the issues should be chosen by ASI in consultation with the parties [Linda and Danny].
    * Because of the sensitive nature of the issues, the proceedings should be private, in the manner of an "Executive Session" within a board of directors of the Church or a corporation.
    * Issues for consideration needed careful definition and mutual agreement.
    * Parties would formally state in advance of the hearing their position on each issue and their expected outcome of each issue.
    * Each party would, in advance of their appearance before the panel, furnish the identity of witnesses and their expected information, as well as provide copies of any documents [evidence] to be presented to the panel.
    * All costs connected with the proceedings would be paid by 3ABN.
    * Proceedings would be held at a neutral site as convenient as possible for all parties.
    * Input from both parties would be welcomed to establish the ground rules on the process to be followed.
    * Questioning would be conducted by the panel under the direction of its chairperson, with opportunity for the parties or their representatives to suggest questions.
    * The decision of the panel would be based upon information presented by the parties at the hearing and not from outside sources.
    * The proceedings would not be conducted as a trial, with a judge, lawyers, cross examination and typical court-like processes.
    * Within 30 days after the conclusion of the proceedings the panel would announce its written findings on the issues, the factual reasons for their findings, and recommendations to the parties, which document would be available to the parties and the interested public.

What happened? Why didn’t the process succeed?

There was significant interchange between Linda's team and ASI, and between Danny, 3ABN and ASI that lead to the creation of two additional documents presented by ASI to the parties that contained details and revisions to the proposed process that the parties had suggested.

We continued to have no contact from Linda other than a single memo to an ASI officer stating that Joy was her representative.

By December 10, 2006, Danny and 3ABN had accepted the process as proposed by ASI.

On December 13, 2006, ASI received an email from Joy advising that Linda was preparing a careful, thorough response to the process proposals, along with a list of questions that he and Linda were preparing for their own clarification. This response and list of questions never came.

Interchange between ASI and Linda's team

Discussions between ASI and Linda’s representatives centered around:

    * Whether the proceeding should be open to the public or private
    * Whether ASI could be neutral and provide a "level playing field"
    * Whether the proceedings should be video taped/recorded/broadcast
    * Whether the issues considered by the panel should extend beyond the Sheltons’ divorce and Danny’s remarriage to include, for example:That Danny and the 3ABN Board of Directors were guilty of malfeasance
    * That Danny should be removed as president of 3ABN
    * That the Board of Directors of 3ABN should be removed
    * That 3ABN should be restructured to create a constituency-based organization (though they knew that the existing structure is lawful)
    * That any person who has contributed to the support of 3ABN should be a constituent and entitled to a voice in the selection of the Board of Directors and management of the ministry (donors were referred to by Linda’s team as, "stockholders in the pews")
    * That the 3ABN corporate by-laws needed to be changed to allow for censure, discipline, and removal of officers or members of the Board of Directors. [NOTE: In fact the corporate by-laws already provide for those possibilities.)

At least 22 other issues were raised in Forum site references by her team and urged for inclusion in the ASI process.

From the beginning last fall, Linda was provided with all necessary telephone and e-mail contact information for involvement with the discussion. She was sent copies of all communications from ASI (as were Danny and 3ABN). In the two-plus months of ASI's attempts to reach agreement on a fundamental process for the panel, she did not respond (except to name Joy as her representative).

We do not know if Linda shares in a belief with Joy, Pickle and Matthews that the agenda should include the matters asserted by her team (above). She chose not to participate.

It became clear that Joy, Pickle and Matthews had interests far beyond the issues that ASI had agreed to consider.

The Beginning of the End of Discussions

We affirmed to the parties that even though ASI supports the ministry of 3ABN and wishes for it to succeed and prosper, ASI would be fair and objective in considering the issues related to the Sheltons’ divorce and Danny’s remarriage. We also believed that the panel selected by ASI, in consultation with the parties involved, would be people who possessed qualities of spirituality, intelligence and fairness. We affirmed to both parties that ASI had no stake in the outcome, and that ASI would be comfortable with whatever conclusions were reached by the panel. However, we never reached the point of choosing a panel.

A week or two into the process, Danny and 3ABN ceased exchanging messages with the other side. That was helpful. Because ASI declined to consider issues beyond those of the divorce and remarriage, Joy, Pickle and Matthews continued their negative contacts with Danny, Dr. Thompson (3ABN Board chair) and others associated with 3ABN. Though couched in spiritual language, their messages were persistent, confrontational, argumentative and harassing. ASI’s efforts to stop their direct communications were unsuccessful.

Final Assessment

We believe that ASI has no jurisdiction to consider internal issues of 3ABN management or the changing of its corporate structure. Those issues must be left to its governing body, the 3ABN Board of Directors. We believe our inability to resolve the fundamental issue of the divorce and remarriage is disappointing to many. We felt that without agreement on the fundamental process, and with no likely agreement in sight, it was necessary for ASI to withdraw. The two parties are the losers in what could have been a healing clarification of a divisive issue for all those involved and concerned.

We confess that if we would have known how bring resolution to the matter, we would have done so. We don't, but God does. We urge that all who have a concern over these issues and over the future ministry of 3ABN (and of Linda and Danny) be respectful, restrained, and apply the Golden Rule as you would wish others to do for you. And pray for one another without ceasing.


The ASI Executive Committee
by Harold Lance
January 24, 2007
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Re: And Now for the other side of the story...
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2010, 10:48:16 AM »

Gregory Matthews on Feb 2, 2007, at 07:35 AM Posted on Blacksda:

Mr Joy has recieved an e-mail, and he expects to shortly recieve the same mesaage by postal letter making certain demands upon him, and that raised the potential that he will become the subject of a lawsuit.

I am posting that message here....

Here is the message:

"Law Offices SIEGEL, BRILL, GREUPNER, DUFFY & FOSTER, P.A.

1300 WASHINGTON SQUARE 100 WASHINGTON AVENUE SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA 55401

TELEPHONE [removed by this blog]
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JOSIAH E BRILL, JR
JAMES R GREUPNER
GERALD S DUFFY
WOOD R FOSTER, JR
THOMAS H GOODMAN
JOHN S WATSON
WM CHRISTOPHER PENWELL
ANTHONY J GLEEKEL
SHERRI L ROHLF
JORDAN M LEWIS*
BRIAN E WEISBERG
STEVEN J WEINTRAUTM
GREGORY SIMPSON
JAMES A YAROSH

_______

MICHAEL J VIOLA
JERRIE M HAYES
MARK THIEROFF
KRISTIN L KINGSBURY

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Writer's Voicemail Number: [removed by this blog]

January 30, 2007

Gailon Arthur Joy
3 Clinton road
Box 1425
Sterling, MA 01564

VIA E-MAIL - [e-mail address removed by GM] and CERTIFIED / RETURN RECEIPT U.S. MAILNOTICE

and

Gailon Arthur Joy
24 Clinton Road
Sterling, MA 01564
CERTIFIED / RETURN RECEIPT U.S. MAILNOTICE:

This letter Constitutes a confidential legal communication, which is not for publication. The contents of this communication are subject to common law copyright and may not be reproduced, in whole or in part, in any form or media, without the express, written permission of the author.

Gailon Arthur Joy:

This law firm represents Mr. Danny Shelton and the Three Angels Broadcasting Network, Inc. ("3ABN"), which has informed us that you are involved in the use and exploitation of 3ABN's trademarked, copyrighted name in your website, "http://www.save3abn.com/." Use of 3ABN's name without our client's license or other authorization to do so constitutes an illegal misappropriation of the same, in violation of state and federal copyright and trademark laws. Additionally, use of the phrase "3ABN" in your domain name is likely to cause confusion among the public as to the source,

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sponsorship or affiliation of your website, resulting in dilution of 3ABN's trademark, which is a separate and additional violation of federal law.

It has also come to our attention that you have inappropriately copied and posted a lengthy excerpt from a 3ABN broadcast on the website referred to above. This action constitutes a violation of 3ABN's exclusive copyright on all audio and video productions created by the Network and on all television transmissions of the same, and is a blatant violation of federal law. Moreover, the presence of this excerpted broadcast serves to heighten the likelihood that the public will be confused into believing that your website is somehow sponsored by or affiliated with 3ABN, which only furthers 3ABN's claim of trademark dilution.

Finally, we have been informed that you have maliciously published outrageous, highly damaging and defamatory statements about both Danny Shelton and 3ABN on this same website. These despicable statements include, but are not limited to:.

    *     3ABN, through its board chairman has "admitted in writing that Danny [Shelton] had   been involved in a cover up" of criminal conduct.
    
   *     Danny Shelton knowingly lied regarding a feud between Tommy Shelton and Glenn Dryden.

    *   3ABN directed an attorney to use "intimidation tactics to cover up allegations of child molestation".
    
   *   Danny Shelton attempted to cover up and silence child molestation allegations.
    
   *   Danny Shelton "abuses his power" and "steam rolls over alleged victims of his brother Tommy's sexual misconduct."(hereinafter the "Statements").

The obvious meaning of these horrendous falsehoods is that Danny Shelton and 3ABN participated in an orchestrated effort to cover up alleged criminal conduct. The actions you falsely attribute to our clients would be a crime and, as I am sure you are aware, false accusations of criminal conduct constitute defamation per se by you.

Therefore, on behalf of Three Angels Broadcasting Network and Mr. Danny Shelton, we hereby demand that you immediately cease and desist from the use of the domain name "save3ABN.com" and that you voluntarily surrender and transfer registration of the domain to 3ABN. You are also informed and hereby notified that you are not authorized to use and are, in fact, expressly prohibited from using, Three Angel [sic.] Broadcasting Network's name, or its trademarked nominer "3ABN" in any future website domain name or URL.

We hereby also demand that you immediately remove, from any and all websites to which you have author access, including "http://www.save3abn.com/," any recorded excerpts of any 3ABN broadcasts

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We also hereby demand that you immediately cease and desist from the publication of false statements concerning Danny Shelton and 3ABN and that you immediately remove such statements from the "http://www.save3abn.com/" website. In the event that you receive any inquiries from any person or entity about the Statements, we demand you notify the inquiring party that you have been put on notice by Danny Shelton and 3ABN that the statements are false and defamatory.

While 3ABN is in no manner whatsoever beholden to explain itself to you, we proudly withstand the ongoing judgment of God and the continuing examination by our supporters and viewers. As evidenced both by the continued paths of ministry that God has opened at our feet and by the unwavering financial support and testimonials we receive from our supporters and viewers, we believe our ministry has more than satisfied the surveillance of both. Though it is a private enterprise, 3ABN has, for over 22 years, proudly engaged itself as a thoroughly transparent ministry, both in its message and administration. 3ABN has always invited the theological, operational, and financial scrutiny of its loyal and generous supporters and viewers. Unless constrained by legal obligations otherwise, 3ABN has provided financial and administrative information to inquiring parties and has opened its doors and offered access to independent auditors and investigative reporters. More than ever, we stand behind the legal propriety, moral correctness, intellectual honesty, financial soundness, and operational appropriateness of each and every business decision 3ABN has ever made.

As part of its commitment to passionately and effectively spread the Gospel and Good News of the Lord, 3ABN has always welcomed honest feedback, constructive criticism, and suggestions for improvement of the ministry. But its Christian commitment to the Truth will not allow 3ABN to tolerate factually unfounded allegations of impropriety, baseless and prurient gossip, inflammatory innuendo, and unjustified attacks on the organization. 3ABN does not approach such assaults as an objective effort to unmask "truth," but as the divisive and destructive work of the Enemy designed to hinder and frustrate God's work. 3ABN will not quietly resign itself to any effort to obstruct God's message.

Your reckless, willful and malicious activity must cease immediately; you proceed at your own peril. Moreover, your compliance with the demands contained in this letter does not constitute a waiver, relinquishment or abandonment of any right to remedy or enforcement, either legal or equitable, to which our clients are otherwise entitled.

Yours very truly,

Gerald S. Duffy"

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Re: And Now for the other side of the story...
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2010, 11:41:28 AM »

3ABN_Defender,
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2010, 12:20:57 PM »

Thank you 3D for posting and reaffirming that the stench that Sam smelled is coming directly from Thompsonville, IL.
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2010, 12:48:34 PM »

A previous response to this:

Every time I read this, it's like waving a red flag at a bull. How dare that man expect Linda to bow and scrape to him, which is virtually what he is dictating for her to do. The audacity of him, writing the letter then demanding that Linda sign it. It was adding abuse to abuse and demonstrated a determination to get her out of the way, so they could continue their dirty tricks campaign.
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From: Walt Thompson
To: [...]
Subject: Letter for Linda
Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 21:43:07 -0500

Dear Linda,
This is a copy of the letter that has been sent by FEDEX to you. While you may not understand now, someday you will realize that we are truly desirous of returning you to your home and ministry because we care about you. I plan to go to 3ABN tomorrow and will be available to talk with you if you have questions needing clarification.

Walt

[FEDEX Letter]
May, 4, 2004

Walter Thompson MD
Chairman of 3ABN Board of Directors
- address removed -

Linda Shelton
Three Angel's Broadcasting Network
PO Box 220
West Frankfort, IL 62896

Dear Linda,


A committee representing the 3ABN board of directors has been selected and has met for the purpose of evaluating the present problem at 3ABN relating to your relationship to Danny and to the ministry of 3ABN - and seeking a resolution acceptable to all parties involved. This letter is intended to represent the will of the board.


Let me begin by expressing our gratitude to you for the part you have played at 3ABN for the past nearly twenty years. You have been an important part of the ministry from the beginning – a fact appreciated by us all. Accordingly, this letter is not written with the intent to destroy your home or your part in the ministry, but rather to rehabilitate and restore.


In accordance with this intent, we are offering the following proposal to you. We believe it has the potential of accomplishing the desired objectives, i.e., to save both your home and a place for you in this ministry. It would do so without making the details of this matter known to the full board or others.


Nor is this letter expressing an opinion regarding the nature of your relationship with Dr. Abrahamson. Whether or not this relationship has been immoral or not is not the issue of this document. The facts are that the relationship and your refusal to discontinue it in spite of repeated requests by Danny and our requests, has damaged both your family and 3ABN – a reality we must deal with in wisdom, love and compassion – but deal with, we must.


We are offering you a 30 day leave of absence with pay and full benefits - to begin at the time of receipt of this letter. During this time the following conditions must be met.


You will be relieved of all duties at 3ABN and will not appear at 3ABN other than to obtain items from your immediate office upon personal request from me. You will arrange to leave Southern Illinois at 3ABN expense for the duration. Both you and 3ABN need time to cool off.


You will agree in writing to cease all communication with Dr. Abrahamson, whether direct or indirect, whether by e-mail, telephone, letter or any other, or through Johann or any other third party. We are designating a period of 30 days, but with the intent this must be a life-long decision.


During this time you will not discuss the issues related to your relationship with 3ABN with anyone other than your immediate family, your professional counselors or representatives or members of the board of directors.


Since this time is recommended as a time for reflection and serious rehabilitation we are requesting that you arrange to receive professional help relating to the issues at hand. We are recommending Ron and Nancy Rocky to you. They have agreed to open their home to you and to give you personal help in dealing with the issues at the center of the present problems. It will be private and protected from the public eye such that neither your image nor reputation ought be damaged. Should you choose different professional help, it must be acceptable to this committee.


At the end of 30 days we will reassess the situation and make further recommendations as indicated.


The issues in this proposal are not negotiable. Should they be unacceptable to you – we hope sincerely they will be acceptable – we will proceed promptly with further investigation of the facts regarding the matter at hand. In that case we will need a list of witnesses you would like us to hear. We will offer Danny the same opportunity. Once we have had opportunity to hear the evidence, we will be in a better position to make recommendations to the full board based upon that evidence. Based on the facts we already know, however, we think pursuing such a course would make any future role for you at 3ABN unlikely.


That is why, Linda, we are pleading with you to accept this proposal for healing and restoration. This is God's ministry. He has chosen you to be a part of it. We want you to continue to be a part of it. But in order for that to happen really important things must change.


Sincerely,
Walter Thompson MD
Chairman of the Board of Directors, 3ABN Committee members include Nicholas P. Miller, Bill Hulsey and Kay Kuzma (by invitation)

Your signature here will confirm your agreement with this proposal. Please sign and return copy within 24 hours of receipt of this letter.
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Re: And Now for the other side of the story...
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2010, 02:30:19 PM »

"Hurry folks, run over here and read this - stop reading that Tommy Shelton molestation arrest stuff!! This is so much better!! C'mon, c'mon, follow me over to this thread and read instead."

WEAK! But nice try.


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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2010, 02:59:10 PM »

"Hurry folks, run over here and read this - stop reading that Tommy Shelton molestation arrest stuff!! This is so much better!! C'mon, c'mon, follow me over to this thread and read instead."

WEAK! But nice try.



Exactly! We can ALL see right through that, 3d. No matter how much of that stuff you repost, Tommy is still going on trial. 3ABN and Danny Shelton are still going to be in the middle of it.
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2010, 03:43:42 PM »

3ABN Defender has posted a letter from ASI which makes the following statement:

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Joy, Pickle and Matthews continued their negative contacts with Danny, Dr. Thompson (3ABN Board chair) and others associated with 3ABN. Though couched in spiritual language, their messages were persistent, confrontational, argumentative and harassing. ASI’s efforts to stop their direct communications were unsuccessful.

This is one of several statements which I believe is inaccurate as it applies to me. The other named people can speak for themselves.

I do not attribute malice to ASI for making those statements. Rather I attribute it to a general statement which had been made specifically probably due to a lack of attention to detail, which can be understood in a communicaiton like that.


At this point in time, I am not going to get into further postings on this subject.  In the past several years my role in this has taken a slightly different track, although I continue to consider myself as a supporter of Linda.

At the time the attempts of ASI to mediate ended, I posted a statement of the issues as I saw them at that time.  I assume that 3ABNDefender has a copy of that post and can post it here.   Perhaps that should be done.

NOTE: I have previousloy stated that if I were to become involved in such an attempt by ASI, I would do some things differently as I have since had some training in mediation and I understand the process better.
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