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[Bob Pickle]

And Pickle and Joy have from day one not had proof of their accusations and and are still desparately trying to find some to justify all the things they have repeated and claimed, as was just quoted yesterday from the court:

"Pickle and Joy have long made uncorroborated, unfounded allegations against Danny Shelton and 3ABN, including claims that they covered up allegations of child molestation against a 3ABN employee, financial mismanagement, and other misconduct that framed the original basis for Plaintiffs’ lawsuit against them. ..."

Think long and hard about the above words. Think long and hard.

In the other thread I didn't mention something important. Simpson above admits that our exposing Danny's cover up of the child molestation allegations against Tommy Shelton was what was behind the lawsuit from the very beginning.

Now when we tried to discover information concerning those allegations, Simpson told the court that those allegations were irrelevant. So in the above words Simpson is basically admitting that he lied.

Simpson also said that the Remnant documents weren't relevant, which is impossible.

Therefore, when Simpson says that the MidCountry records aren't relevant, is he telling the truth, or is he lying? What do you think?

[Bob Pickle]

Pickle and Joy have made unfounded allegations of misconduct against Judge Saylor, forcing him to recuse himself.

Judges aren't supposed to recuse themselves over unfounded allegations. The fact that the judge did recuse himself indicates that the allegations couldn't have been unfounded.

Not surprisingly, Judge Hillman also recused himself after ruling on the motions.

If it is not surprising that the magistrate judge felt that 28 U.S.C. § 455(a) required him to recuse himself, then he should have recused himself before ruling on the motions, not after.

[Bob Pickle]

Pickle and Joy contend that their currently unsupported allegations might be proven through these documents, which were filed under seal and never reviewed by the court or the parties.

Lastly, Simpson above admits that the MidCountry records were filed. Thus, they were part of the district court record and ought to be forwarded to the First Circuit as part of the record on appeal.

[Artiste]

What might be the results of Simpson's various misstatements?

[Bob Pickle]

I would think that sanctions under Rule 11 or the court's inherent powers would be appropriate.

Personally, I think any lawyer who lies ought to be disbarred. They should not be allowed to ruin people's lives through lies when their own rules say they are supposed to tell the truth.

The law library I was in the other day had an attorney's pledge on the wall, and more then one part of the pledge had to do with striving for truth and not using wrongful means to achieve one's ends.

But I wonder just how many lawyers really take all that seriously.

Just in this case, consider the low level the lawyers have stooped to. Duffy appealed to common law copyright to try to cover up the child molestation allegations. Hayes told the court that there was no (IRS) criminal investigation going on. Simpson tried to declare stuff we got from Dunn Loring confidential after getting the case dismissed, as if the allegations against Tommy are a trade secret of Danny Shelton and 3ABN. Pucci sent his employee into a federal courthouse to get 11 to 12 pounds of sealed records, in violation of a court order.

It's really pathetic.

[quaddie47]

What might be the results of Simpson's various misstatements?

Artiste,

Have you even once asked yourself what might be the result of Bob's various mischaracterizations of other people's statements? 

[tinka]

Oh how well our family knows this type of corruption in courts, judges, and lawyers to destroy lives all in the name of "money"and taking what you worked for. That is why I find it quite amusing reading the rhetoric of some of the so called claimed attys on these posts and their spins of justifications and twisting.

[anyman]

What might be the results of Simpson's various misstatements?

Artiste,

Have you even once asked yourself what might be the result of Bob's various mischaracterizations of other people's statements?  

Those lies, misrepresentations, editing to change meaning, weaving of quotes to create false perception, misstatements, insinuations are all accepted as truth here. His continued work evidences a total disconnect with the source of Truth.   ************************.


Edited to remove inappropriate content.

[tinka]

Without any of the above accusations coming into play of what Bob did or did not do--how can one justify extravaganza lifestyle and the refusal to come on here and deny misuse of funds when all the horse's and maintenance of extravaganza living are in view.

How can anyone afford to pay you attorneys or attorneys helpers??? How can you have all these marriages without something wrong in the pile. It is never all ones fault! (LS) if you say yes it is, that is a lie plain and simple.

How can 3abn be called a non profit when DS shows or lets see not shows--how he manages to have all the lifestyle advantages that most contributors do not have. It doesn't come from volunteering all your work. You just can't hide what has been shown and that is what I call covering, protecting, and deceiving. But it does keep paying for the  hay.
(lawyers, sympathizers, family, houses, cars, wives, communities, hair plants, turtle necks, horses & feed, maintenance, jets, and you name it.) and we contributed?? were we nuts, Yea guess so. Has nothing to do with Bob's documents, but of course they are there and in public view by public business records and in the courts for all to see. Why all this? Something must have come to public view. Adultery ? Proven??? Adultery right on 3abn for all to see not by LS but by M and what ever she ended up with last name this time. Complaints of Child molestion?? How did that happen?? You see it is just not the words of Bob, Gailon but viewers and victims. Was Danny the next victim or was the last wife victim of DS. Was her child a victim or the reason!!! Who knows but..Where does the money come from for really big settlement in last episode. Other settlements too or claimed...... You see, its all about the money what it is supposed to be used for and how he got it and for and what it is actually spent on that really is the issue and not the spin of innocence of actual fact. Somebody should have done something in this corruption in the name of goodness to clean out the sewer in or for the name of SDA since SDA did not stand up to it. "Money" Money" Money" that is what it takes for all the above!! Not Bobs accusations or documents and e-mails.

Why not,??---- keep this amazing income of funds keep rollin in the best way they can which keeps the lifestyle of Satans favorite follys within good standing of the SDA church and it's off shoot 3abn. Of course that is what they call theirselves "non denominational" but yet claim and use that belief, (that is an off shoot or an excuse)  and that is good for SDA too so they can still mingle without the damage. Too bad children, victims, payoffs, lawyers, and money pits had to be involved. But that is what comes with "stories" stories, and more stories all on and from 3abn.
Really do not think God uses corruption to get His message accross.  But corruption needs money to get "stories across".

EGW says many whole conferences will fall and many lights will go out and I believe she is not lying.

[Bob Pickle]

What might be the results of Simpson's various misstatements?

Artiste,

Have you even once asked yourself what might be the result of Bob's various mischaracterizations of other people's statements? 

Those lies,

Got some examples?

misrepresentations,

Can you list some instances?

editing to change meaning,

In May 2007, Mollie Steenson stated:

The website www.save3ABN.com has previously posted letters and other correspondence on its website. However, many times only select portions of the documents are posted, misleading readers into believing the documents stand for propositions other than what the authors intended. Even when whole documents are posted, comments are inserted throughout effectively directing readers to draw inaccurate and defamatory conclusions from the documents.

But nearly three years later, Mollie and company have never filed any examples with the court. Perhaps you could help them out by suggesting a few.

weaving of quotes to create false perception,

Mollie could really use your help. Surely you wouldn't be saying this if you didn't know of some examples, right?

misstatements,

Got an example to illustrate your point?

insinuations ....

Got some specifics?

[anyman]

Yes. Yes. No need. Right. Yes. Yes.

[Bob Pickle]

Yes. Yes. No need. Right. Yes. Yes.

That's all you can say? You can't give even one example?

How does anyone know you aren't just making empty assertions like Simpson has?

[anyman]

No, it was a choice of brevity.
I can.
They don't (save those who know the truth).
I'm not going to waste time providing them as A.) you will deny them B.) you will twist anything said to serve your purpose as you believe in the "end justifies the means," and C.) you would only use them to make your tired false allegations all over again.

Suffice it to say, the evidence against you is significant and sufficient.

[Bob Pickle]

I'll call your bluff. I think you're lying.

You've been at this for three years now, and while you're good at assertions, you can't back up what you say with real facts.

That's the way the lawsuit has been. Simpson claimed in his last filing that we were frustrated by the court's delays over the confidentiality order and the motion to limit the scope of discovery, and thus got a subpoena from Minnesota to serve on MidCountry.

But the facts are that according to the opposition's own filings, we got that subpoena from Minnesota 6 days before their filed their motion for a confidentiality order, and 6 months 13 days or so before they filed their motions to limit the scope of discovery.

The assertion sounded good an plausible, but it was a lie. And it has been a lie every time the opposition has told it.

[Bob Pickle]

And Pickle and Joy have from day one not had proof of their accusations and and are still desparately trying to find some to justify all the things they have repeated and claimed, as was just quoted yesterday from the court:

"Pickle and Joy have long made uncorroborated, unfounded allegations against Danny Shelton and 3ABN, including claims that they covered up allegations of child molestation against a 3ABN employee, financial mismanagement, and other misconduct that framed the original basis for Plaintiffs’ lawsuit against them. ..."

Think long and hard about the above words. Think long and hard.

In the other thread I didn't mention something important. Simpson above admits that our exposing Danny's cover up of the child molestation allegations against Tommy Shelton was what was behind the lawsuit from the very beginning.

Now when we tried to discover information concerning those allegations, Simpson told the court that those allegations were irrelevant. So in the above words Simpson is basically admitting that he lied.

Simpson also said that the Remnant documents weren't relevant, which is impossible.

Therefore, when Simpson says that the MidCountry records aren't relevant, is he telling the truth, or is he lying? What do you think?

We claimed Danny, 3ABN, and their lawyers were obstructing discovery. They claimed they had legitimate reasons for raising questions about relevance and scope.

But now that Simpson has admitted that the lawsuit was originally based on Danny's cover up of the Tommy allegations, then he has also basically admitted that he did obstruct discovery when he claimed that the Tommy allegations weren't relevant.

If the lawsuit was based on those allegations, then those allegations were relevant, and thus to seek to prohibit their discovery is to obstruct discovery of materials that is indisputably relevant.

I'm sure that our resident paralegal wannabe lawyer will agree, if he's honest.