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[Johann]

Giive my a good example of faithfulness. 

[Johann]

In London a driver suddenly stopped the bus, placed a prayer rug on the floor, took off his shoes, turned to Mecca on his knees and chanted in Arabic. When he finished praying he returned to the drivers seat and never apologized to the startled passengers.

The Transport for London provides prayer rooms for Muslim drivers at various places along the way.

Was this showing faithfulness?

[tinka]

Could that be called man's "habitual tradition"? Somehow I don't think we should wear our faithfulness for intentional show. Only God determines faithfulness of ones character. We can only see surface of what appears to be faithful but not actual motives for true faithfulness.Example: faithfulness to worship Mary and all determined Saints!! over and over and over. The intentional habitual traditional person could have killing on his mind.....while on his knees as we well know.

The only perfect faithfulness is from the Son to the Father.

[princessdi]

Yes, Johann, that was showing faithfulness.  Tinka, do you also believe that Daniel was wearing his faithfulness for intentional show.  He did exactly as this man did....three times a day.  It is how he wa caught, right?   Yet, we revere Daniel for the same behavior.  Whatever this man's religious belifes, which plainly are Muslim, and whether or not we agree with them, he IS showing faithfulness to his god.

the same can be said the Adventism........a person can have killing on their mind while sitting in church on Sabbath, right?  So I agree, God will be the true judge of our faithfulness, as He only can judge not only our actions, but our motives.

[tinka]

Daniel was not into intentional show. His privacy was spied on.

[Johann]

Could both of you be right?

[tinka]

Being "sanctified" in wrong beliefs does not give "justification" of faithfulness. Daniel had direct connection and so can we. Today everyone thinks they have their own correct beliefs that have only opinions and lack the facts of reading correct doctrine.  Having correct doctrine is "Sanctified in belief"
Then doing it and living it is "Correct Justification" One cannot work with out the other as that is what gives "Salvation". Not wrong beliefs. Our own opinion gives nothing.

[princessdi]

No, it wasn't. If I remember correctly it was already a well known fact.  He was in his house, but also in plain sight.  Which is the reason they laid that trap to begin with.  Everyone knew Daniel would pray no matter what.  Now if he wasn't "into intentional show", then how did they know.  If he was in his "prayer closet".........unless he told them....how did they know?   

The man neither Daniel were "into intentional show" they were just serving and honoring their God.  Yes, Johann, we both ARE right in tha tthe men had no busines busting up in Daniel's house, no matter what.  They just went and waiting until he started praying, as they knew he would. 

Daniel was not into intentional show. His privacy was spied on.