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Author Topic: Judge Saylor recuses himself; Judge Rya W. Zobel now assigned to our case  (Read 16935 times)

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At 12:35 pm ET the following order was issued in U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts:

Quote from: Judge F. Dennis Saylor IV
Defendants Robert Pickle and Gailon Arthur Joy have filed a complaint of judicial misconduct against me in connection with this matter. An order of dismissal was entered on November 3, 2008, but the litigation has continued thereafter and certain matters remain pending. Under the circumstances, and because my impartiality might reasonably be questioned by an objective observer, I hereby recuse myself from presiding over this matter.

So Ordered.

/s/ F. Dennis Saylor         
F. Dennis Saylor IV
United States District Judge

Dated: January 15, 2010

At 12:18 pm the following was entered into the record:

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ELECTRONIC NOTICE of Reassignment. Judge Rya W. Zobel added. Judge F. Dennis Saylor, IV no longer assigned to case.
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Does that help your case?
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Time will tell.

But we do not believe that Judge Saylor's rulings since Oct. 30, 2008, have been correct or fair. So probably it will help.
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Is he admitting to not being impartial or is that just legal talk or is he covering his posterior?
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Is it a routine thing for a judge to do this, or is this an exceptional case?

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Is he admitting to not being impartial or is that just legal talk or is he covering his posterior?

I don't think his statement is admitting that he has not been impartial. Rather, he is admitting that it looks like he might not be impartial.

Is it a routine thing for a judge to do this, or is this an exceptional case?

Fortunately, I don't have enough experience to say whether it is routine or not. Gailon said that this would likely happen once we filed our complaint.

The judicial system likes to keep investigations into judicial misconduct somewhat confidential. Thus, we haven't posted that we filed a complaint. But Judge Saylor has made it a matter of public record that we have.

Recusal long after a case has started doesn't happen everyday. I have read that recusal is common in the Supreme Court up front since you aren't allowed to hear a case that could affect you financially, or something like that. There is a federal law that spells it all out.

See http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/recuse and http://www2.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode28/usc_sec_28_00000455----000-.html and http://www2.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode28/usc_sec_28_00000144----000-.html.
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Is it a routine thing for a judge to do this, or is this an exceptional case?

Recusal is a common occurrence that happens at various points in cases all the time. It's not new or exceptional in this case.

The motion by RJP and GAJ was a premeditated move they were reasonably assured would force Judge Saylor to remove himself from the bench. They knew they were not likely to get rulings they wanted, so they attempted to remove what they saw as the impediment.

What it effectively does is slow the case significantly. The new appointment will have to bring themselves up to speed before they make a ruling. RJP and GAJ have made a habit of attacking the integrity of lawyers and judges throughout the length of this case and will likely attempt to find ways to continuing doing so in the hope they can judge shop retroactively in an effort to create a more favorable climate for their claims.
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anyman,

What motion of ours are you suggesting was a premeditated move? You aren't clear. And Saylor didn't refer to any motion in his statement.

Could you be specific as to when in the case we questioned the integrity of judges?

As far as the lawyers go, they have been caught red handed a number of times making statements that were less than truthful, similar to Walt Thompson and Danny Shelton, and have stooped so low as to try to cover up child molestation allegations against Tommy Shelton. Lawyers that would do such things don't have as much integrity in my book as lawyers who refuse to do such things.
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What motion of ours are you suggesting was a premeditated move? You aren't clear. And Saylor didn't refer to any motion in his statement.

Are you serious? A ten year old could make the connections here. Stop playing your games. If you want to engage in an adult discussion than handle yourself as such. The complaint you filed is referenced in your initial post (Defendants Robert Pickle and Gailon Arthur Joy have filed a complaint of judicial misconduct against me). You can play your games and say, "You said motion, but it was a complaint and you said motion." The fact of the matter is you knew EXACTLY what was being referenced and this is your MO, nitpick when it is another's words, but when it is your own - someone is twisting them or misrepresenting them or they have been taken out of context. Start handling yourself with some dignity and integrity.

Could you be specific as to when in the case we questioned the integrity of judges?

Again, are you serious? If it is that murky to you, I would suggest it is your own actions that are causing you to see through the glass dimly. You have another thread going where you reference the fact that you are potentially being sued for disparaging and defamatory remarks. You have also not provided the remarks that are the subject of this situation. You have claimed that judges didn't read your filings (and you have NO proof of such, only your speculative insinuations) which is a backhanded insinuation of judicial misconduct (this being your most recent defamatory remarks http://www.adventtalk.com/forums/index.php/topic,1784.msg22472.html#msg22472). At this point, you are lucky you have only one legal professional who has taken you to task.

As far as the lawyers go, they have been caught red handed a number of times making statements that were less than truthful, similar to Walt Thompson and Danny Shelton, and have stooped so low as to try to cover up child molestation allegations against Tommy Shelton. Lawyers that would do such things don't have as much integrity in my book as lawyers who refuse to do such things.

No, you are wrong. You have insinuated, and expect everyone to accept your words as authority, but you have no proof, no judgments, nothing. None of your accusations are anything more than your amateurish insinuations or speculation. Your constant focus on "allegations of child molestation" evidence that there is something more to your motives, as you constantly return to this, especially in your archived YouTube videos.

You lack credibility. You lack authority. You are not to be believed. You have quickly learned to play the legal game of extension. Your filing against Judge Saylor was a calculated exercise. You weighed the cost against the possible ROI and decided that it was worth effort. It paid off. However, you have shortened your own lease in the legal arena tremendously, and you are unaware of this fact. You consider "your book" too definitive. It is sad that you seem to have forgotten that the only "books" that matter are not the earthly ones, not yours. Enjoy the paycheck while it lasts.
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Again, are you serious? If it is that murky to you, I would suggest it is your own actions that are causing you to see through the glass dimly. You have another thread going where you reference the fact that you are potentially being sued for disparaging and defamatory remarks. You have also not provided the remarks that are the subject of this situation.
anyman, why would Bob want to post remarks that he is potentially being sued for? Please explain.
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Re: Judge Saylor recuses himself; Judge Rya W. Zobel now assigned to our case
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2010, 09:48:46 PM »

anyman, why would Bob want to post remarks that he is potentially being sued for? Please explain.

They're all part of the public record as they appear in the filings of RJP and GAJ. He wouldn't be "making public" anything that already isn't.
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Re: Judge Saylor recuses himself; Judge Rya W. Zobel now assigned to our case
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2010, 09:58:45 PM »

anyman, why would Bob want to post remarks that he is potentially being sued for? Please explain.

They're all part of the public record as they appear in the filings of RJP and GAJ. He wouldn't be "making public" anything that already isn't.
OK, so if they're part of the public record, you should already have access to them. Correct?
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Re: Judge Saylor recuses himself; Judge Rya W. Zobel now assigned to our case
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2010, 10:02:57 PM »

OK, so if they're part of the public record, you should already have access to them. Correct?

RJP whines or crows (select your verb of choice) about a communication between Atty. Simpson and himself involving consideration of a law suit over defamation. If he is going to finger point, he owes you and the readership a more definitive explanation . . . either that or you can go on accepting him at his word (which might not be a wise decision).
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Re: Judge Saylor recuses himself; Judge Rya W. Zobel now assigned to our case
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2010, 10:14:10 PM »

RJP whines or crows (select your verb of choice) about a communication between Atty. Simpson and himself involving consideration of a law suit over defamation. If he is going to finger point, he owes you and the readership a more definitive explanation . . . either that or you can go on accepting him at his word (which might not be a wise decision).
Well, I wouldn't think that Bob "owes" me an explanation of anything. I have the choice to read or not read anything on the forum. Just because I make the decision to read doesn't entitle me to all the details.
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Re: Judge Saylor recuses himself; Judge Rya W. Zobel now assigned to our case
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2010, 03:22:23 AM »

If he is going to finger point, he owes you and the readership a more definitive explanation . . . .

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