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[Johann]

Johann, I guess I'm not able to figure out real quick on how the church was afraid that maybe DS could sue them. Those inner working and connections if DS claims non denominational. How is it that they cannot disconnect from him?  Maybe the media and bad publicity of the church?

Those things are difficult to find out - unfortunately.

[Sam]

I heard through the grapevine that DL's biggest funds provider stopped providing those funds, which resulted in the dropping of this lawsuit?

The problem is that I can't remember where I heard this.

Since you "heard it through the grapevine" is there a possibility you shouldn't be repeating it?  Your "grapevine" has proven not to be reliable time and again.  If I had a dime for everytime one of you have said "I heard" I would be rich.

[Sam]

The laxness on this by the church and leadership has really got me dumbfounded.

There is the possibility that Church leaders were afraid that Danny Shelton would sue them if they did, and that it might cost the church an enormous sum of money in court expenses.

Johann, try to stay with us in the real world here. You can watch 3abn anytime day or night and see conference people on the programs from the GC on down. I hardly think they work closely with 3abn because they are scared of a lawsuit.  This weekend 3abn will be in Battle Creek with a combo 25th Anniversary special and a "Pillars of faith" project. The colleges and academies will be involved with the music, the meals and hosting the event. Congratulations have been received from Steven Bohr, Doug B, Kenneth C, David A and a host of others. Did it ever occur to anyone here that the reason this, and many other events, are supported by these ministers and the conference is because they are all privy to the facts in relation to 3abn? While those here, speculate, surmise, gossip and even lie when need be.

Give it up, it's over. Joy and Pickle have lost all credibility in the church (if they ever had any) and your smear forum is down to this same little handful with nothing to discuss but Bob's whining.  Thank God, 3abn continues to grow and expand to reach the world with the love of Jesus Christ.

[tinka]

Tell ya what Sam,
I will not be watching 3abn and their hussy looking women. and to tell you the truth the more I see of Hope channel the more Catholism I see. Why are they running Catholic programming? Footsteps of Paul for one. and family reunion I just call the Gaither copycat. In fact Gaither are more modestly dressed. Carry on with all your contempory charasmatic movement, apeasing the public and crowd.  It will fall when the end comes. Oh yes, the SDA is a joiner with all religions, that is the new trend.

Thank you for opening my eyes for sure. I do not see much "Hope" in all this and you cannot take away the wrong that has been done. Lets just see what happens in future. I cannot stand to see anymore of their financail corruption or would i ever contribute to any of it again. You should know where the pew money went above all as you state all. Somewhere there are people that still believe and live humble in the word. With their way how can you teach new people God's way?? Well you don't have to answer, I already know. I am glad I studied it for my self and do not have to rely on Babylon Showcases.

[childoftheking]

People love to be on tv don't they? Butter them up. Put their pictures and miracle stories in the magazines. Flatter them. Let them join the crowds. Make them feel good. Bet not one in hundred knows about anything but the party line (the accepted self propaganda) they are told.

And don't rain on their parade or they will sue you.

[tinka]

Childoftheking,

Amen to that.  These people have never givin it a thought to read all and see all and conduct their selves in the manner of truth. Jut gimme the money!

[Daryl Fawcett]

Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black? 

I heard through the grapevine that DL's biggest funds provider stopped providing those funds, which resulted in the dropping of this lawsuit?

The problem is that I can't remember where I heard this.

Since you "heard it through the grapevine" is there a possibility you shouldn't be repeating it?  Your "grapevine" has proven not to be reliable time and again.  If I had a dime for everytime one of you have said "I heard" I would be rich.

[princessdi]

How about returning the original docs and keeping copies. Now that's common sense. I read nowhere that they cannot have copies(Which you probably have already) just return the ones they have.  Would that now make them in compliance with the rlaws of discovery when a lawsuit is dropped?   Then there is always my suggestion from before...stop running Danny in the ground for the mote in his eye..........need I complete this thought out loud........hmmmmmm?  Then they would definitely have nothing to drag into court again, right?  You can keep your opinions of him, how he lives his life, his business practices, you just don't have to put massive amounts of energ, time, and funds into putting ALL of his business on the internet........24/7.........just a thought.

Well Di,

In just simple common ordinary sense, (and just surmizing again) if Bob gave all documents of proof back and then DS turned around and sued   with his option to do for revenge how would Bob prove his side?? with no documents??

Bob is up against begged for pew money and corruption with courts seeking the same with a filled pocket sucker the same ....as long as the money keeps coming in the lawyers spin their spin. Now just who is the devil here?  It should have taken the people within the church to take this on....people to stand up against this -where are they as most I think will take your view. But in the courts of corruption is hardly a chance is my view but Bob and Gailon's view is to stand up to corruption with the knowledge they have to fight the cancer within. Don't you think in the broad picture that someting like this is the destroyer of the church by using mostly what is right and the one thing that is wrong bring the church down. Will anyone else stand to this?

Johann, I guess I'm not able to figure out real quick on how the church was afraid that maybe DS could sue them. Those inner working and connections if DS claims non denominational. How is it that they cannot disconnect from him?  Maybe the media and bad publicity of the church?

[princessdi]

TINKA!!! I am shocked!!!   LOL!!!!!   I just always thought they all could use a good haristylist, but they would never hire me!  LOL!!  BTW, Tinka, you were doing really well with giving up the haterade...get back on the wagon now.......

"We fall down but we get up, We fall down, but we get up. We fall down, but we get up.  For a saint is just a sinner who fell down....but then got up!"  Everybody sing it with me!  Here's the song if don't know the words.........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ_44erSURw

OR Would we rather envision this magnificent site?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OuuaLn__98

Tinka, we are running Catholic programming for the same reason we are running Focus on the Family Programming......they bought the time slot(s).  Don't get me wrong I love me some Adventures in Odyssey, however, the irony is not lost.

Tell ya what Sam,
I will not be watching 3abn and their hussy looking women. and to tell you the truth the more I see of Hope channel the more Catholism I see. Why are they running Catholic programming? Footsteps of Paul for one. and family reunion I just call the Gaither copycat. In fact Gaither are more modestly dressed. Carry on with all your contempory charasmatic movement, apeasing the public and crowd.  It will fall when the end comes. Oh yes, the SDA is a joiner with all religions, that is the new trend.

Thank you for opening my eyes for sure. I do not see much "Hope" in all this and you cannot take away the wrong that has been done. Lets just see what happens in future. I cannot stand to see anymore of their financail corruption or would i ever contribute to any of it again. You should know where the pew money went above all as you state all. Somewhere there are people that still believe and live humble in the word. With their way how can you teach new people God's way?? Well you don't have to answer, I already know. I am glad I studied it for my self and do not have to rely on Babylon Showcases.

[Bob Pickle]

Plus, whatever went on in the trial, so far you are losing the battles and the war, what difference does it make?

I don't think we are losing the battles and the war.

Why would they pay your legal fees?

The Bible requires restitution as a condition for forgiveness.

You really want them to pay the legal fees on a suit that if you had your way would still be progressing in court.  They would more than likely only be responsible for yourlegal fees if they loss.  They didn't everyone pays their own legal fees.......and I thought most of the time you allwere representing yourselves?

It is inappropriate to steal someone's time, and not offer to compensate them for that.

How about returning the original docs and keeping copies. Now that's common sense. I read nowhere that they cannot have copies(Which you probably have already) just return the ones they have.

They don't want me to keep copies of anything, or notes, or any docs that would include information from the "confidential" materials. And why is that? Because it is incriminating stuff. The lawyers are liable, and they know it. So they want to get the evidence away from us.

Then there is always my suggestion from before...stop running Danny in the ground for the mote in his eye..........need I complete this thought out loud........hmmmmmm?  Then they would definitely have nothing to drag into court again, right?

The 1st Amendment guarantees our freedoms of speech, religion, and press. Under what circumstances is it permissible to waive those rights? Would you waive those rights if the little horn of Daniel 7 sued you for tying it to Dan. 7? Would you promise never again to identify it as the little horn in exchange for not being sued again?

I do not consider covering up child molestation allegations, engaging in private inurement, and falsely accusing your wife of adultery to be a mote.

[tinka]

Princessdi,

So they sold time slots for the money for SDA programming. Well now, isn't that special.  Guess it doesn't make a difference anymore since they follow the piper.

I'm not sure a hairstylist is all they need but I am sure you could have done a better job on them.

[mfc10]

[Why are they running Catholic programming? Footsteps of Paul for one. ]


Hi--I'm confused. I Googled "Footsteps of Paul" and "Tony Moore" and it says he was/is Evangelism Ministries Director of It is Written. Where does the Catholic part come in? (Granted, I rarely watch it, but I wasn't sure to what the reference was being made.)
Thanks!!
Blessings,
maggie c.

[tinka]

What another cover up.

Sometimes I watch the Catholic channel for sacred music and the Footsteps of Paul and the narrator is Catholic. Then all of a sudden I saw it on Hope channel.

[Johann]

Dear Friend:

 

This attack against Linda breaks my heart and the hearts of the many friends that she has here in M....  I did not even know that someone can cancel someone else’s confirmed ticket.  Do they not have to prove who and why? Sometimes Satan manages to find a way for these things to happen.  I have told you that I do not personally know Linda but so many of us still misses her ‘porch step’ worship with us every morning at 8:00AM here in M....

 

Personally we do not watch many things that originate at 3ABN.  But some good minister’s tapes can still be found and we as a family do listen and watch some of these.  Even more now I sicken at the sight of DS—Johann, can it be true that the Lord can use evil people and turn their efforts into something to His glory?  I am not only dumbfounded but confused as to the usefulness of 3ABN at all.  I am 81 years old and my husband who is 87 had a stroke this year and we are pretty much housebound.   How can we accept or explain the things done so wrongly to Linda after all these years?

 

Linda needs friends and those who know what a wonderful person she is.  How can this happen?  Who can explain it all?  Where do we go to find the reasoning? Is 3ABN useful to God or not?

 

I followed Her website until there was nothing new.  Will she write on it anymore?   I hope that her daughter had a wonderful wedding.  Greetings to Linda from all her friends.  If there is something new that would be useful for all of us to know, please keep us informed and give Linda the love of her many friends.

 

The one thing that we are all interested in is how is Linda’s son doing???      God Bless us All., XXX

[Gregory]

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