Gailon...I'm through disagreeing with you, and that EG White quote is not meant to counterpoint anyone. I don't defend the actions of that Lutheran leader either. My only premise is to be sure that we all understand that Jesus still has sheep in pastures other than our own.
My dad was a catholic at one time and he never thought his journey would bring him tobe head elder of a major sda congregation. So let's not let the sins of the leaders of these other denominations malign those precious hungry souls within whom Jesus knows still seek him.
Let's get one point out in the open now...this forum is a place for open discussion and one does not necessarily have to be right or wrong to have differing views of differing issues. It should be a fun and educational process that we all grow with.
It is inappropriate for bloggers to feel that they are being personally attacked when another blogger takes on challenging issues and expresses their views. I do not intend to make one wrong or right but invoke discussion. Have even been known to be the devil’s advocate to draw out another’s real view of issues at bar. And I readily admit that I enjoy the debate…in fact revel in it. But, please never take it so personally…I don’t know enough about you to make it personal.
Now, if you are Danny Lee Shelton in disguise, or one of the disciples, then my game is to expose and flay…and I live for the moment. I despise hypocrits!!!
Believe me when I say I work with people every day that disagree with my views and frequently we agree to disagree. But it is also essential that I get my point across or clients will suffer.
Persuasion, or at least persuasive compulsion, is required or I have failed in my advocacy or administration. On the other hand if there is a good reason why my position is wrong, I want to hear it or I will have lost the opportunity to understand the opposing view and form a broader conclusion. So buck up and enjoy the banter…if you were target of reprisal, believe me, you would know it – there would be a Save-Horsethief.com or Horsethief vs Joy.com. I have no reason to think or believe this would ever happen.
As to the pasture being wide and inclusive of fallen protestants and catholics, I will point out that my wife is a former catholic whose mother worked for the Diocese, and a devout catholic indeed. I am an avid door to door worker and love to meet people right where they are, catholic, protestant or agnostic.
Again, what I cannot stand is men in leadership that do not stand for principal and are far short of being “as true as the needle to the Pole”. I declare them spineless wimps and hypocrits and they are the enemies of true Faith and Discipleship. They need revival and reformation.
I also have real problems with men who leadership knows have serious challenges in their past, have played a role in assisting others in dastardly deeds, then are still promoted to church leadership roles in the falsity of their resume’s. And it has happened recently in the SDA church. It cannot be tolerated without a clear and precise challenge as the party has shown no remorse, has not confessed his wrong to another sister, has not repented of his very public effort and has not demonstrated a spirit of revival and reformation.
In fact, I will go so far as to declare we now have a FOX IN THE HENHOUSE of Adventist administration. The leadership that claimed to invoke revival and reformation has now formed an unholy union with those who would work to tear down the foundations of our media and publishing institutions.
As for you, Horsethief, join the posse, put your ear to the ground and listen for the fleeing horses that we may give appropriate chase. After all, the crusade must go on.
Gailon Arthur Joy
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