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Gailon Arthur Joy

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Re: Political facts happening in case some SDA's wants to know
« Reply #150 on: October 09, 2010, 09:47:30 PM »

While I understand we are to occupy until He comes, when the choice on the ticket is Political Racketeer Republican, Political Racketeer Democrat and Political Racketeer Independent, you will see a bit of voter apathy and I will be chief of apathy...just simply cannot justify punching the chad or checking the box for politically corrupt persons in an era when honesty and simplicity CANNOT get on on the ticket, let alone elected. If one runs for a major salaried position, one must buy the support of one group or another and is not really free to vote their conscience. Therefore, since they must l;ack real integrity, I CANNOT CONSCIENCIOSLY GIVE THEM MY SUPPORT.

I saw a republican brochure yesterday proclaim he wanted to roll back income taxes and cut the sales tax in half, but in the next bullet statement he declared his unswerving support for RETURNING MORE "local aid" to his constituency towns. A classic example of promising to reduce the sum he takes from your pocket but he will also get more back into your pocket to cover local government....splain me why one would allow the state to collect taxes so they can send them back to the towns and villages to cover schools and emergency services??? Yes, build a huge centralized bureaucracy to collect taxes and I promise we will not keep any but return the money to local towns and villages...naive or stupid...or just plain a political liar trying to get elected so he can feed at the public trough. And he even promised to self impose term limits to six terms!!! Enough to make sure he is fully vested for a state pension program at 80% of salary.

Give me any salaried elected position and it is just a matter of time before we find out just how little real integrity the candidate really has.

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« Reply #151 on: October 10, 2010, 02:25:44 AM »

I agree with all that. In fact we are now at a place in time where no mental stability,(understanding right from wrong) ryhme, or reason is left...but some still live to try to help ourselves and others...if possible with all the corruption to deal with among, communities, and church.  Acorn was a sure premeditated thing for the last and we can only guess what is next. Lyle put it all in a nutshell yesterday. It can't go on and on and on.
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Re: Political facts happening in case some SDA's wants to know
« Reply #152 on: October 10, 2010, 05:41:14 PM »

But to sit back and do nothing, allows the ones in office to do more of the same and I will not allow the ones that are blatantly doing what I can not stand to stay in office. The next man or woman may be no better, but come next election, he or she will not get my vote and I will try again. BUT, just MAYBE, the new person WILL do a better job and that's what I have to hope and pray for. That's why I vote.
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« Reply #153 on: October 10, 2010, 06:11:00 PM »

Meee too, If we don't vote then we have nothing to complain about and just work and let them take what they want when they want and for what they want. That is why I vote. If we don't slavery would have never stopped at least for the time being but seems it is now catching up again for the slaves of the gov. and it sure will not respect race over an other. We will be in it together.
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Re: Political facts happening in case some SDA's wants to know
« Reply #154 on: October 11, 2010, 01:32:13 AM »

I'm hoping for a tidal wave in next month's election. One that has Obama's party in the minority. The combination of Reid, Pelosi and Obama in total power spells deepening debt and less recognition of who our enemies truly are.
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« Reply #155 on: October 11, 2010, 02:28:01 AM »

I have to admit that Acorn and other corruptions that cheat the vote is dampening on the spirit of voting....but I still take the responsibility of trying too. I do care what happens to others even if they do not realize when the "change" is up. It  does look like a real "change" is coming. Not sure though any "change" will make a difference on what is coming because of "debt". We are paying a billion dollars a day just in interest.  Hmmm, to China ????? You ought to see the link where Obama is making fun of Old testament Bible. Could not find a link to put on here.  But the above link does show the Quaran texts. His actions match.  Then setting in England a Muslim cleric states their flag will fly over the white house. Why is he so sure? Because the "Trojan Horse already is! Can you imagine that if he would have sat in America and said that? Maybe then people would have woke up to reality. It was only broadcast a little. The comparison of Communism and Muslim is the same meaning in the above link. This is for real and "America" was sleeping........
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« Reply #156 on: October 11, 2010, 03:28:23 AM »

I have to admit that Acorn and other corruptions that cheat the vote is dampening on the spirit of voting....

Tinka, the Acorn "corruptions" turned out not to be true.  It was an evil,  Republican-sponsored, right-wing, smear campaign.   Be sure to admit that, too, while you are busy admitting things.  It's sort of disheartening when I see a website with the title political facts happening and then I see what appears to be a thumbs-up endorsement of a smear campaign.

Tinka, if you go to the Acorn Web site -- or elsewhere--  the complete explanation is out there, as elsewhere. Emphasis is mine:

http://www.acorn.org/node/693

ACORN, a national network of community organizations has conducted campaigns to win living wages for low income workers; an end to predatory financial practices and foreclosures; decent and affordable housing, for first time homebuyers and tenants; better public schools; voting rights; a path to citizenship for new immigrants to this country; and an equitable response to natural disasters such as Katrina.

The organization came under attack from Republicans after it helped millions of mostly minority and low-income citizens apply to register to vote in recent years. The attacks escalated in September, 2009 after a video sting operation by conservative activists led to a Congressional vote to "defund" the group. The controversy sapped the organization's resources and hampered its fundraising. On March 1, 2010 Brooklyn prosecutors on Monday cleared ACORN of criminal wrongdoing after a four-month probe triggered by the films produced by undercover conservative activists. "They edited the tape to meet their agenda," a source in the District Attorney's office told the New York Daily News.

On March 10th Federal judge Nina Gershon again declared unconstitutional the federal law which blacklisted ACORN and allied organizations. The judge ordered government to make it clear the funding isn't blocked. Last year an independent report by former Massachusetts Attorney General Scott Harshbarger examining the undercover videos filmed in offices of the national anti-poverty group ACORN states the employees portrayed in the videos did not engage in any illegal activity. Another study by the Congressional Research Service cleared the group of charges leveled by right wing activist hostile to its voter registration work and stated that there were no instances were identified in which ACORN "violated the terms of federal funding in the last five years."

Contact: Kevin Whelan, kwhelan(at)acorn.org


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« Reply #157 on: October 11, 2010, 04:11:32 AM »

I'm hoping for a tidal wave in next month's election. One that has Obama's party in the minority. The combination of Reid, Pelosi and Obama in total power spells deepening debt and less recognition of who our enemies truly are.

President Bill Clinton left a budget surplus when he left office.  Republicans choose to forget that it was a Democratic Party president that did that.  Republican President George W. Bush subsequently turned that surplus into massive debt.

As for the tidal wave, President Obama is not running in the next election.  So,  even if Republicans gain seats in either house, Republicans do not have the power to override any veto from the President of the United States.   Therefore, there won't be any "tidal wave" in the Congress for the next two years as far as legislation is concerned.


   

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« Reply #158 on: October 11, 2010, 10:32:59 AM »

Grasshopper...  President Clinton did come up with a surplus under his administration, which was the right goal to strive for. But what many don't take time to do understand is how he got that surplus. He financed a large chunk of that with short-term bonds of 7, 8, 10 years. Made his administration look rosey, but those bonds came due in 2001-2008. Those bonds had to be paid up, which was left to the next administration. Take into account the fact that there was, at these times specified, a cyclic recession, an attack on our homeland, a war, a crippling hurricane. All costly occurrences. So I believe it's understood, considering these events which were not forseen by anyone, why the Bush administration had to revert to deficit spending and not be able to keep up any surplus in federal revenue.

Clinton was doing his part in moving the nation toward fiscal solvency. He didn't forsee the coming events. He got the surplus, but he could have said publicly that those short-term bonds are coming due soon, so brace yourself and be ready to pay for them. A large part of the economic success of the '90's though was Clinton's agreeance with the GOP congress to 350 billion in tax reductions in 1997. So to claim that the economic progress of the 1990's was the glory of one man and one party is very short-sighted.

The intentions of the last 2 administrations (Clinton and Bush) were toward fiscal solvency. Neither were without fault, but neither can be blamed for being slothful or negligent when it came to the nation's fiscal health

President Obama has spent nearly one trillion in an effort to stimulate the US economy and to check and reduce unemployment. It's been 19 months and the situation remains bleak and appears to be getting bleaker. One-party rule in our country is not working at our present time. Obama needs a check and balance for the health of the nation.
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« Reply #159 on: October 11, 2010, 01:58:24 PM »

I have to admit that Acorn and other corruptions that cheat the vote is dampening on the spirit of voting....

Tinka, the Acorn "corruptions" turned out not to be true.  It was an evil,  Republican-sponsored, right-wing, smear campaign.   Be sure to admit that, too, while you are busy admitting things.  It's sort of disheartening when I see a website with the title political facts happening and then I see what appears to be a thumbs-up endorsement of a smear campaign.

Tinka, if you go to the Acorn Web site -- or elsewhere--  the complete explanation is out there, as elsewhere. Emphasis is mine:

http://www.acorn.org/node/693

ACORN, a national network of community organizations has conducted campaigns to win living wages for low income workers; an end to predatory financial practices and foreclosures; decent and affordable housing, for first time homebuyers and tenants; better public schools; voting rights; a path to citizenship for new immigrants to this country; and an equitable response to natural disasters such as Katrina.

The organization came under attack from Republicans after it helped millions of mostly minority and low-income citizens apply to register to vote in recent years. The attacks escalated in September, 2009 after a video sting operation by conservative activists led to a Congressional vote to "defund" the group. The controversy sapped the organization's resources and hampered its fundraising. On March 1, 2010 Brooklyn prosecutors on Monday cleared ACORN of criminal wrongdoing after a four-month probe triggered by the films produced by undercover conservative activists. "They edited the tape to meet their agenda," a source in the District Attorney's office told the New York Daily News.

On March 10th Federal judge Nina Gershon again declared unconstitutional the federal law which blacklisted ACORN and allied organizations. The judge ordered government to make it clear the funding isn't blocked. Last year an independent report by former Massachusetts Attorney General Scott Harshbarger examining the undercover videos filmed in offices of the national anti-poverty group ACORN states the employees portrayed in the videos did not engage in any illegal activity. Another study by the Congressional Research Service cleared the group of charges leveled by right wing activist hostile to its voter registration work and stated that there were no instances were identified in which ACORN "violated the terms of federal funding in the last five years."

Contact: Kevin Whelan, kwhelan(at)acorn.org




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Why would anyone  think that contributors and members of Acorn are going to throw out the truth? You need to watch cspan and the hearings  in investigation to begin  of the Black Panthers intimidating the voters with connections to Acorn. Don't know what you listen to but ---the liars themselves. Obama was in on the beginning of creating Acorn for His future intended premeditated voting strategy :ROFL:   Watch any of the undercover videos?? The hearings you did not listen too in Congress?
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« Reply #160 on: October 15, 2010, 07:08:39 PM »

Sorry to rain on a grasshopper, but we did investigate very thoroughly ACORN at the turn of this century. Perhaps you would love to know that the finest example of ACORN good intentions being corrupted was linked to our President (Barack Obama) and the Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick.

In the late nineties ACORN sued Ameriquest, the KING OF PREDATORY LENDING for targeting minorities with high cost loans. Patrick and Obama were players in the litigation effort. Ameriquest made an offer any corrupt lawyer could not reject and included loads of money for affordable housing for minorities to be adminitered by ACORN, seats on the Ameriquest Board and Patrick took one, complete with excellent pay (six digits for the few annual meetings and lots of stock options) not to mention a share of the Ameriquest profits annually to ACORN for perpetuating there agenda. Patrick became a millionaire, and come to think of it, so did Obama...not bad for a couple of community oganizers that worked for non-profits.

Sad ending, Ameriquest moved on to become the largest and most corrupt national lender in american history known for granting loans indiscrimiately designed to fail then would spin them into one bad loan after another until the equity was completely stolen, resulting in foreclosure. I can site one pathetic story after another of the dozens of interviews and statements taken for the class action lawsuit against Ameriquest and its' subsidiaries. Ameriquest, AMC, ARGENT, and Town & Country lending all went into a tailspin when 14 attorney generals finally joined the fray and AMC (the remainder and servicer) sold out to CITICORP with a little push from the just elected Mass Governor.

Any time you mix loads of money into politics and bureaucracy it is the perfect mix for wholesale corruption and ACORN had MANY issues. Just like the Federal, State and city governments are rife with corruption. once corruption sets in you will find a trail of waste and dirty deals where the few insiders get rich and WE PAY!!! But nothing really gets done and there is little benefit to the stockholders/voters.

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« Reply #161 on: October 18, 2010, 11:42:56 PM »

I just return from overseas in Kenya for three weeks. It is normal for the politician to lay all the blame at the feet of the person in office in hopes that he will get elelcted. WHat is so amazing now is the fact that the very same corruption will go on after the election because most people cannot see someone trying to make things  better if their eye is blinded by things outside the issue. How stupid is it for a Christian  to complain about providing healthcare for people that in most cases work harder than the normal American.
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« Reply #162 on: October 19, 2010, 05:12:15 AM »

All is now understandable whats wrong with you, :ROFL: No wonder their is so much trouble where you just came from. This is America Bub!
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« Reply #163 on: October 19, 2010, 10:13:16 AM »

In a recent analysis of the American situation by a conservative -supporting the Republicans - European Business newpaper they state that Obama seems prepared to work with a Republican Congress. The reason given is that Obama is the most straightforward and least corrupted president the Unites States has had in decades, and he seems to be willing to work with any honest Republicans.

The readers of "Business" are also the European businessmen who are used to dealing with American businesses and banks. What do you think of their analysis?
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« Reply #164 on: October 19, 2010, 01:49:37 PM »

Now Johann, (smile)

 :ROFL: a president that born the Acorn? Won't prove his background, has horrible habits, wrong friends,and backs a now mostly read Health Care agenda that scared the pants off the readers and where else can he go now- when the public smart, rich and poor has caught his drift. He's out with Americans except the ones that have "spread the wealth" disease. To tell you the truth, I am wore out working for the non working and guess what after working have nothing left.
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