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[Snoopy]

Please don't bother with the self justifications or stories here on my account, I have read them from you before and sorry I am not interested in reading it again even if you throw in your horse again, as it is all delusion and self righteousness, and loving lies to me and YES, that is "my personal opinion" and "my personal Judgment." It is also my opinion that your posts are among the worst that this forum has to offer and as do many here bring shame and reproach upon Jesus' Church, and misrepresent Him.

LOL!!  

Well, that's rich, coming from you Cindy Conard Ford, administrator of the smut site!!      Hahahahaha!!!

Maybe you should go back over there and check on things in your own house before you bring you come over here throwing stones.  I dare you - go back and read some of the garbage you have allowed...AND EVEN CONTRIBUTED...over there and just imagine how you yourself have made Jesus feel...


Check out this link...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrite

[tinka]

Ian,
Are you stating that Melody lied about her father, If that is so why don't you post the truth of the story?  Is all her background info in court documents also a lie? I simply asked on here if and how all that could be true? as it was the worst imaginable if that was fact. You see I did not put that on here. It seems to me you are looking for someone else to jump on. Why not the ones that posted the info and told their story.They claim it is truth by the way of Melody. Now what is your alternative or motive for this jumping and stomping game because I asked. If that is truth I will state it again. It makes me sick and yes he needs to be hung by his heals. I do not see much difference with the rest of his family either. There is just too much overboard to hide.

What has happend on here is disgusting and I do not mind a bit to denounce or yell and be right straight forward. You got the wrong person who put all the info on here. and I simply state if that is the truth and the case and you are denying it for protection that is simply just as guilty. First of all before seeing that bit of filthy actions posted as fact, I already thought it was pretty bad to make such a distasteful bunch of malarky out of a simple DNA test. What a fiasco. The stupid fiasco was enough to let any child know something was out of the ordinary by the supposidly adult behavior. It could have been done in a very medical discreet way that the child would have not even remembered except for a Drs. visit. But that is the actions DS through the whole mess.

 I do not mind speaking on the posts with the worst there is and believe me it has been pretty bad and disgusting. I do a lot of fishing if you haven't discovered?? (laugh) it brings the worst out and displays character in great detail on just who is who and who you can trust.

You protect Danny boy when he slept with his daughter. Yes, Ian --Di has not shown partiality very much at all on either side--but she says its true. How can you prove it is not. Is melody around to now change it another way? Please state your case. I read it and simply asked it as it was too bad to stomach. That IN MY OPINION IS CORRUPTION OF THE INNOCENT YOUNG.    Now how old was Brandy again??? Where are her children now?  at first I thought the new woman in the picture had 3 children by separate men and not just 2. (Not sure about that one) who has them? who pays for them? why did she leave? did she leave her children, actually how many does she have and by who else? what did she think when she messed with a married man or was the man messing with the "money pit" ? Why did she think all this would not be in "public view" when her spending money was coming from the deceived public "pew money"

You think all this is nobody's business and you are exactly right except for one thing. DS and Brandy spent the public's money wined for the cause of God through the SDA's. NOW HOW MUCH DOES SHE GET???  OUT OF YOUR POCKET TOO IF YOU ARE STILL CONTRIBUTING.  There is just no way out of this. It HAPPENED. DS IS WORSE THEN ANYTHING I CAN SAY. HE IS LIKE THE "BENT GUY" UNLESS OF COURSE YOU PROVE EVERY SMIDGE IS FALSE ----SOMEHOW!! YOU SEE TRUTH MUST COME BY SEEING AND I'VE BEEN WATCHING FOR IT AND NOT JUST A BUNCH OF PROTECTION TALK.  THIS ADVENT TALK PLACE HAS GIVEN ME GREAT DETAIL IN THE PAST 3-4 YEARS AS I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN A TOO BUSY PERSON TO SEE ALL THE CORRUPTION WITHIN INSTEAD OF LOOKING THROUGH ROSY COLORED GLASSES FOR ALL THE YEARS. YEP, IT HAS HIT ME HARD AND NOW I DO NOT MIND STATING BACK AT SHEAR IGNORANCE OF HOW STUPID THESE AFFAIRS AND MONEY CORRUPTION HAS TAKEN OVER WHAT I THOUGHT WAS PERFECT.

[Murcielago]

Tinka, I don't believe Melody ever said that. I have never seen or heard of any document or testimony that would indicate she said that.

[anyman]

This is a fabrication of Tinka's mind. There is no truth to this and evidences her willingness to entertain any outlandish idea that she can conjure up. She wants the worst to be true, so whether it is or not - in her mind it is. Just plain sick.

Tinka, I don't believe Melody ever said that. I have never seen or heard of any document or testimony that would indicate she said that.

[tinka]

I would more then anything for Di's post to be untrue. and the other posters in put of this also. It sure would be a better feeling for me to discover my first instinct is "how could this horrible thing be true" and that is why I came on and asked this after it was stated to be truth by what I felt to be reptuable after about 3-4 years of reading this mess. I did read back that Melody was supposed to have admitted this and it came from her mouth. I guess it is a process to see who is the liar when you have these talks. I have found that some on here are just imposters of SDA religion.  Many times you can see if they are unfaithful to little things then they must not be trustworthy in the bigger and then you try too syphon out. I do care what is truth because SDA has been a lifetime for me and 5 generations back. I hate what is happening and it has been the broader picture for me as a whole and not the personal disgusting details but the public showoffs of misused funds.

Why do I waste time looking at this in wee hours is my lifetime of loyallity to my beliefs and thinking of the perfect message given to a special chosesn people to see what they do with it.  They confiscated it for personal use of extravaganza   !   and that is my jest of concerment and discernment to wonder into this place hoping for better details of what has been observed of documents. So how about this Di and the ones that are the accusers of this!  Ya all got this wrong--I did not make up this story and post it here. I simply gave my opinion if it was truth!  But for some I find a complete ignorance in understanding simple English words and then they come across with total different views then what a posters first subject was initallly about or how they stated it. 

An example of this is the rules for DNA perfection of the courts for truth. The valiity of the courts have been explained and shown over and over on the orginal documents.  There is only one way of validity and some just don't get it. and I realize who those are that just go on and on about and make justification for false validity. But my point is VALIDITY and I could care less on whose baby is whose, (but still care what has been done to innocent life for a lifetime of woes because of the corruption the adult did) other then that all the rest is what comes with deceivement ane lies are miggled with trying to justify "misused funds". I just can't believe in this time of trouble knowing and having all knowledge of SDA truth we have this corruptions. That is what I hate to be truth. --THE CORRUPTION. SO ANYMAN--I am not the orginator of this fabrication that you feel is fabrication of ones mind. You need to read a little clearer or keep up with the posts before you speak and how and direct your posts to the ones that put your concerns of what you think is truth on here.

[Pat Williams]

I would more then anything for Di's post to be untrue.

Di said this?!? What post are you referring to? I'm sorry, but I have looked and cannot find any post like this. Even if there was, how would she know? Did you ask? or did you just want to believe smut and slime?

and the other posters in put of this also.

What other posters claimed this? Sister? That was an old post which Bob Pickle quoted from years back from another forum, and excuse me but she was not in a position to know what she was saying. Her posts were over the top and ugly. She just repeated the gossip, slander and rumors as she heard them and presented them in an even uglier way without one shred of evidence to back anything up while pretending she was a witness and intermingled with the Shelton family also. A lie, she didn't even live in the same country. She often posted about how no one could figure out who she was, and laughed about it all. But as soon as her identity was discovered she stopped laughing and became very quiet.

It sure would be a better feeling for me to discover my first instinct is "how could this horrible thing be true" and that is why I came on and asked this after it was stated to be truth by what I felt to be reptuable after about 3-4 years of reading this mess.

Tinnka, There is a children's song which goes " Oh be careful little eyes what you see... Oh be careful little ears what you hear.." are you familiar with it? Reading unproven allegations and lies over and over does not really make them reputable, but propagandists use this tactic because they know if you repeat something enough many willl begin to believe it and not question the validity of what they are being told or even who is telling them or how they would know,

It appears to me, that you have not questioned things as you should have and have allowed yourself to be deceived. The problem with you accepting what you have read as truth is that you in turn are posting it to others and giving them the wrong impression and deceiving them.

You appear to be very confused because of this and your posts are a confusing mixture of lies you have accepted and wrong conclusions you have jumped to and added to those lies to pass on to still others. For example you cannot even comprehend that according to the agreement, it was Doctor Day who arranged the type of testing and paid for it and that is why it was not done at a lab. You have read the agreement saying this, and you have read Dr Day saying this, yet in your mind it was Danny Shelton who was responsible for the test not being done at a Doctor's office or lab with a legal chain of custody and so you continue to blame him when that is not warranted and there is no reason to.

I did read back that Melody was supposed to have admitted this and it came from her mouth. I guess it is a process to see who is the liar when you have these talks.

Maybe you did, but I have not read this anywhere except in your posts. If you were indeed told this, then the problem  is that you believed this and did not try to determine if they were lying before you passed that lie on to others. Melody never said that. If you had questioned this as you should have you would know this, and not be claiming that there is even court documents to this effect when there are no court document or papers saying this. None.Nor would you be demanding that those who are telling you this is not true have to prove it. You would not be demanding that others tell you if they are claiming Melody lied about her father, when Melody never said anything remotely like this.You should have first demanded that anyone making these ugly hateful accusations prove it to you.  Why didn't you? Because you wanted to believe this horrible ugly nasty story about Danny Shelton?

 If Melody said this then you and those claiming this have to provide the proof. If there are court documents as you claim then you should be able to provide them or a reference to them. There aren't any however.


Tinka because you did not question and investigate this or other things claimed here as you should have and accepted what was untrue as the truth you are now in the position of being a false witness and guilty of lying and possibly deceiving others. Just as you came on here and accepted what you read, still others come on here and accept what you say. They like you will not question the source but will assume you know what you are talking about when the truth is you don't know, are witness to nothing and have never bothered to investigate or even look at anything besides what you have read here. Nor have you as another member pointed out bothered to meet, talk to or question anyone that you are accusing and believing evil about.

This is a sad testimony and you stand at fault and have no excuse for believing and repeating lies. You are concerned about SDA imposters? so am I. If you can not be accountable in a little thing like questioning the things you are told here and asking for evidence and proof before repeating it as if it is the truth, then how can you be trusted to teach what is biblical truth and principles?

3D

I have found that some on here are just imposters of SDA religion.  Many times you can see if they are unfaithful to little things then they must not be trustworthy in the bigger and then you try too syphon out. I do care what is truth because SDA has been a lifetime for me and 5 generations back. I hate what is happening and it has been the broader picture for me as a whole and not the personal disgusting details but the public showoffs of misused funds.

Why do I waste time looking at this in wee hours is my lifetime of loyallity to my beliefs and thinking of the perfect message given to a special chosesn people to see what they do with it.  They confiscated it for personal use of extravaganza   !   and that is my jest of concerment and discernment to wonder into this place hoping for better details of what has been observed of documents. So how about this Di and the ones that are the accusers of this!  Ya all got this wrong--I did not make up this story and post it here. I simply gave my opinion if it was truth!  But for some I find a complete ignorance in understanding simple English words and then they come across with total different views then what a posters first subject was initallly about or how they stated it. 

An example of this is the rules for DNA perfection of the courts for truth. The valiity of the courts have been explained and shown over and over on the orginal documents.  There is only one way of validity and some just don't get it. and I realize who those are that just go on and on about and make justification for false validity. But my point is VALIDITY and I could care less on whose baby is whose, (but still care what has been done to innocent life for a lifetime of woes because of the corruption the adult did) other then that all the rest is what comes with deceivement ane lies are miggled with trying to justify "misused funds". I just can't believe in this time of trouble knowing and having all knowledge of SDA truth we have this corruptions. That is what I hate to be truth. --THE CORRUPTION. SO ANYMAN--I am not the orginator of this fabrication that you feel is fabrication of ones mind. You need to read a little clearer or keep up with the posts before you speak and how and direct your posts to the ones that put your concerns of what you think is truth on here.

[Nosir Myzing]

.You should have first demanded that anyone making these ugly hateful accusations prove it to you.  Why didn't you? Because you wanted to believe this horrible ugly nasty story about Danny Shelton?

Once one horrible ugly nasty story is accepted without questioning and swallowed and believed it forms a basis for accepting even more horrible ugly nasty stories about that same person. Why not? You now falsely believe this is the person's character and so it becomes easier to accept each subsequent story and lie about them as it fits the false opinion and judgment you have formed.

And herein lies the problem. Lies built upon lies, and mis-representaions and mis-characterizations built upon mis-representations and mis-characterizations. This house of cards here has been built upon a bad foundation, and when that foundation is examined and the flaw found, it all comes crashing down.

The sad thing to me is some are not willing to question their own opinions or views and so cannot consider that they could be mistaken of wrong and because of that will go on living and loving a lie.

I think it was Bob Pickle who posted a bible verse here one day and pointed out how no liar will be in heaven, and all who make and love lies will be outside the city. That is true, it is also true that the Lord can show us all truth, even that hardest truth of all to accept which is the truth of ourselves. So we truly, none of us, have any excuse, when all we have to do is ask him to show us and then let him do so.

[tinka]

3abn defender,
Go to the thread while it is still fresh " Anybody here from Idaho?"Start reading what you failed evidently to read before you opened your mouth. Check out Di's post, mine and others. You can defend what ever you want but truth is still visible. and not referring to Mel F. but follow the links for your defending the whole picture. Evidently there is aplace called Sisters, but also this has been stated by the regulars on here. No matter what Mel F. said or did --you defender --are defending the wrong side with evidently no way out as your posts suggest that you are in the main mingle of things. Your pockets must be jingling. but in the end it will be gone just as lying easy it came.

[tinka]

What is so bad about this is --documents are there on corruption that are very hard to bring to light in a corrupted system when money counts for all. I know the system oh so well.
The defenders of this mess cannot seem to come up with one thing to prove different the visible corruption except a bunch of their own accusations.  I would like nothing more then for this to be wrong and so would people on death row. My mind can change instantly with the proof.

If I would have known before hand where donations went and that a bunch of   that had to be bought and fed and personal extraganza items, jets and proven etc.etc. they would not have gotten a dime. So in reality the money went to manuer and back to the ground and oh yes..to wild women.
  you can't deny that one!!

The signia of the little  sign really gets em going because it is truth.

[Pat Williams]

3abn defender,
Go to the thread while it is still fresh " Anybody here from Idaho?"Start reading what you failed evidently to read before you opened your mouth. Check out Di's post, mine and others. You can defend what ever you want but truth is still visible. and not referring to Mel F. but follow the links for your defending the whole picture. Evidently there is aplace called Sisters, but also this has been stated by the regulars on here. No matter what Mel F. said or did --you defender --are defending the wrong side with evidently no way out as your posts suggest that you are in the main mingle of things. Your pockets must be jingling. but in the end it will be gone just as lying easy it came.

Tinka for what it is worth, you are making thiings worse here by now adding lies and false accusations against me. You have no excuse. You are flat out making it up to avoid dealing with what was said to you and asked of you. Stop doing that, your eternal life is in the balance here.

Now back to the topic. Do you know how to provide a link to what you are talking about because I cannot figure it out. If you can't do that can you at least quote what it is you are claiming is visible truth? That would be very helpful because your post above just appears like meaningless babble and confusion to me. If you can't or won't then so be it. Carry on with your lies and let the blood be on your own head.

[Pat Williams]

What is so bad about this is --documents are there on corruption that are very hard to bring to light in a corrupted system when money counts for all. I know the system oh so well.
The defenders of this mess cannot seem to come up with one thing to prove different the visible corruption except a bunch of their own accusations.  I would like nothing more then for this to be wrong and so would people on death row. My mind can change instantly with the proof.

If I would have known before hand where donations went and that a bunch of   that had to be bought and fed and personal extraganza items, jets and proven etc.etc. they would not have gotten a dime. So in reality the money went to manuer and back to the ground and oh yes..to wild women.
  you can't deny that one!!

Of course it will be denied. You are the one making these unsupported and false claims and cannot understand that before you accepted them as the truth you should have asked for the evidence and facts from both sides. You cannot understand that when you repeat things and accuse others, it is you who needs to prove that you are right, instead of asking others to come and prove you are wrong. You don't even provide any documents or evidence for anyone to reply to. Can't you see what is wrong with that?

You will NEVER convince me you do not want to believe all the lies because the fact is you chose to believe it all and accuse all who tell you you are wrong of being on the wrong side. What side are you on Tinka? From where I stand and based on what I personally know and knowing you don't know and have no personal knowledge and don't know the people and have not even bothered to ask them? You appear to be standing on the side that accuses the brethren day and night.

If you are, well may God have mercy on those you despise and revile for you have forfeited that and they deserve justice.


We both know that casting pearls before swine and wrestling with pigs is never a good idea and that dogs will be dogs and turn and rend.


May you find all that you seek and choose and ask for, and may that be the right thing and God's blessing be upon you.

[tinka]

3abn defender,

Lets see --the meaning of Visible Extravaganza of "misuse of pew money"

1. Do you deny that   were bought with income of "pew money" dispersed into manure?  Of course the justification proclaimed is "personal money"!

2. Do you deny purchase of sports car?

3. Do you deny giving to community projects? not affiliated with "gospel"

4. Do you deny purchasing more properties and assets for others from "pew money" (family members)?

5. Do you deny the jets and personal travel?

6. Do you deny protection of TS? and shoved down the throats of TV audiences.

7. Do you deny "pew money" going for documented gigantic attorney's fees to hide documents that if all was on up an up that would not have been necessary?  It's always easy to prove truth if you have it!!  Where is it?

8. Do you deny other relationships and quickies? fast divorce and instant new family is "visual proof" and back on divorce again?

9. Do you deny personal money spent on big egos and looks?

10. Validity rules supersede DS or Dr. Days poor and mishandled saga. Don't you agree?

11. Now if you can answer yes to all this.......what does that make you??

12. It is obvious that you did not read that I stated that your posts "suggested" that you were very close to the middle of this. How else do you know all and can prove all? Now I am asking as you "suggested" for the proof of things.

13. Why do facts make you so angry and stoop to use the the devils tatics of using the religion when the facts are history and are "written"?

[Pat Williams]

3abn defender,

Lets see --the meaning of Visible Extravaganza of "misuse of pew money"

1. Do you deny that   were bought with income of "pew money" dispersed into manure?  Of course the justification proclaimed is "personal money"!


--- Tinka, Yes I deny that horses were bought with "pew money". If Danny and Linda Shelton could afford to have horses, good for them. Many in our church and the world own horses.  All that we have, each of us, comes from God. We each need to be stewards of our own money. Never are we called to go into our brother's house and examine the salary he or she earns and his or her household budget and be his steward and sit in judgment of him. Do you know how many employees there are in the general conference who earn and receive their salaries from offerings and tithe moneys? I dare to say when they go to the store to buy groceries or purchase a pet, livestock or car, it is not pew money they are spending. They are accountable to God, not to me, you or any other. So take your high and go giddy up!



2. Do you deny purchase of sports car?

---No, Tinka If Danny or any man in our church or out, can trade in a vehicle and afford to buy a used car with their earned income, and that car happens to be a sport's car, that is their business. If it is within their budget to do so what is the problem? You or I may not do the same, but why is it your business or concern?



3. Do you deny giving to community projects? not affiliated with "gospel"

--- Tinka, if a donor gives money and says it is being given to be used for community projects to help the community and foster good will --which is exactly what the situation was that you are referring to-- then it is not up to you to say or decide that they should not give their money for the purpose they choose, and it is not up to you to say or decide that 3abn is wrong to take money from donors and use it for the purpose the donor gave it for. You are way out of line and wrong.



4. Do you deny purchasing more properties and assets for others from "pew money" (family members)?

Yes Tinka, I do. Can you or anyone else claiming this prove this occured? NO

"You cannot understand that when you repeat things and accuse others, it is you who needs to prove that you are right, instead of asking others to come and prove you are wrong. You don't even provide any documents or evidence for anyone to reply to. Can't you see what is wrong with that?"



5. Do you deny the jets and personal travel?

--- Tinka, I do not deny that Jets were leased, as it is a huge expense to fly all of the 3abn crew as well as take all the recording equipment and all else all over the United States and the world. There was a donor who provided funding earmarked for that expense, as was his right, and as before, it is not up to you to say he could not do that, or that 3abn should take his money and spend it on something else. If any company decides it is better for them both timewise and financially to lease or own a jet, then that is up to their accountants and board to decide, NOT YOU who does not have any knowledge of the situation.

I do deny that Jets were used for personal use. Can you or anyone else claiming this prove this occured? NO

"You cannot understand that when you repeat things and accuse others, it is you who needs to prove that you are right, instead of asking others to come and prove you are wrong. You don't even provide any documents or evidence for anyone to reply to. Can't you see what is wrong with that?"



6. Do you deny protection of TS? and shoved down the throats of TV audiences.

--- Tinka, I deny anything was shoved down TV audiences throats. That is a hyperbolic claim. Can you prove that TS shouldn't be defended? Can you prove that TS is a pedophile and has raped little boys? Do you have any legal documents or charges or convictions? Do you have any evidence that any complaints have been filed against him even? Do you have a record from TS's "Church of God" in Virginia or any evidence of any any actions taken by them, or judments against him? Anything beyond their church meeting board minutes quoted by Bob Pickle in court, where they decided that until and if they received a statement from an alleged victim (as they had not a one) that they would treat it all as hearsay (rumor and gossip)? Do you have any reason to proclaim that his church who is in possession of more than you is wrong? Do you have reason to believe that the prosecutor in Illinois was wrong when he claimed there was nothing to act on?  You again are out of line and wrong.

"You cannot understand that when you repeat things and accuse others, it is you who needs to prove that you are right, instead of asking others to come and prove you are wrong. You don't even provide any documents or evidence for anyone to reply to. Can't you see what is wrong with that?"



7. Do you deny "pew money" going for documented gigantic attorney's fees to hide documents that if all was on up an up that would not have been necessary?  It's always easy to prove truth if you have it!!  Where is it?

Tinka, yes I deny that. A donor earmarked money for a lawsuit against Pickle and Joy, and the purpose of that lawsuit was not to hide documents. That is just ignorant. The purpose of the lawsuit was to sue Pickle and Joy for lies and slander and libel. Why are you asking me where the truth is? Pickle and Joy shouldn't have to get it from 3ABN, they should have already had the proof before they made their accusations and claims, or they shouldn't have made them. You should have it before asking me to prove it, or you should not be making claims and accusations. Why don't you understand that?

"You cannot understand that when you repeat things and accuse others, it is you who needs to prove that you are right, instead of asking others to come and prove you are wrong. You don't even provide any documents or evidence for anyone to reply to. Can't you see what is wrong with that?"



8. Do you deny other relationships and quickies? fast divorce and instant new family is "visual proof" and back on divorce again?

--- Yes Tinka I deny it.

"You cannot understand that when you repeat things and accuse others, it is you who needs to prove that you are right, instead of asking others to come and prove you are wrong. You don't even provide any documents or evidence for anyone to reply to. Can't you see what is wrong with that?"



9. Do you deny personal money spent on big egos and looks?

--- Tinka, --Unless you are talking about Linda's botox treatments, airbrushed photos and expensive videos, and huge wardrobe, which shouldn't be a problem anymore as she and all that are no longer at 3abn. -- yes I do deny this.

"You cannot understand that when you repeat things and accuse others, it is you who needs to prove that you are right, instead of asking others to come and prove you are wrong. You don't even provide any documents or evidence for anyone to reply to. Can't you see what is wrong with that?"




10. Validity rules supersede DS or Dr. Days poor and mishandled saga. Don't you agree?

--Tinka, huh? I don't even have a clue what you trying to say here or what you mean so I can't answer.



11. Now if you can answer yes to all this.......what does that make you??

--- Tinka, I have not answered yes to all of this, and I have no idea what you are trying to say it makes me, nor do I even care, but I would remind you again

""You cannot understand that when you repeat things and accuse others, it is you who needs to prove that you are right, instead of asking others to come and prove you are wrong. You don't even provide any documents or evidence for anyone to reply to. Can't you see what is wrong with that?"



12. It is obvious that you did not read that I stated that your posts "suggested" that you were very close to the middle of this. How else do you know all and can prove all? Now I am asking as you "suggested" for the proof of things.


----"You cannot understand that when you repeat things and accuse others, it is you who needs to prove that you are right, instead of asking others to come and prove you are wrong. You don't even provide any documents or evidence for anyone to reply to. Can't you see what is wrong with that?"



13. Why do facts make you so angry and stoop to use the the devils tatics of using the religion when the facts are history and are "written"?

--- I am not angry. and I do not believe you could recognize a fact if it jumped up and bit you in your giddy up and go seat you appear to be a very confused and sick individual who can't stop accusing others.

"You cannot understand that when you repeat things and accuse others, it is you who needs to prove that you are right, instead of asking others to come and prove you are wrong. You don't even provide any documents or evidence for anyone to reply to. Can't you see what is wrong with that?"

Tinka, the burden of proof lies upon you and upon those who first made the accusations, if you can not see that, it is because you choose not to.

[GRAT]

So, 3-D what do you do with the two men who are brothers who have been abused by TS as young men?  Seems that there is a letter where TS admits it happened.  So he has never been convicted by a court of law, that doesn't mean that he is not guilty.  OJ is as guilty as you can get and he went through a trial and got off.

[tinka]

3abn defender,

Hmmm, amazing what I have now gathered in this fishing ordeal.

I would say yes, you are right in the middle of it all.

All most like right out of the  s mouth with the same whinnie.

I can tell you one thing It is my business because it determines and to decide where and who is a good steward to send donations to and this was the best way to find out. 

In case you apply this same way "personal money" bit --a theif goes out and works for his too so he can have personal money.

10. Validity rules (of the court) supersede DS or Dr. Days poor and mishandled saga( DNA testing story). Don't you agree?

--Tinka, huh? I don't even have a clue what you trying to say here or what you mean so I can't answer. I think I know who you really are  

Oh, you forgot the hair transplants!