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[Gregory]

Fran:

You said:

You said you were saying what was said in documents in public domain.  Yet, did you use quote marks?  Did you cite the documents?  Did you say who you were quoting?  No you did not.  Thus, what you wrote would be taken as your comments!  Get real.

That was my point and the focus of my response.  Do you remember writing the above?  Sorry.  I think it is you who needs ot get real.

[Fran]

Fran:

You said:

You said you were saying what was said in documents in public domain.  Yet, did you use quote marks?  Did you cite the documents?  Did you say who you were quoting?  No you did not.  Thus, what you wrote would be taken as your comments!  Get real.

That was my point and the focus of my response.  Do you remember writing the above?  Sorry.  I think it is you who needs to get real.

I got your point about me missing the quotation marks.  I asked the question if they were there.  I did not say they were not there.  My error for asking questions; I am sorry for that.  However, you should have stated who said it.  For all we know it could have been the Memorial Foundation!  Just because something is in public domain does not mean the everyone has read it.  I had read it and knew where it came from.  It was your sentence after the quotes that upset me!  I believe that Danny and 3ABN should be thanking Bob for being so frugal!  Your comment after the quote was condescending.  Then you said you stand behind it. 

I am real.  What you see is what you get.  I am a nobody!  I have zero credibility!  I claim no special knowledge of the law, even though I have had several semesters in law.  I do case studies, but I would never presume to tell anyone striving to save their family, home, business how they should be handling things.  Then you commented that you did not intend to teach Bob Law!  Did he ever ask you to do so publicly?  If so, I missed that.  Sorry if I am wrong!

That was not only rude, but blasted crude.  It was an open insult.  How ever, that is how you work.  You slithered into things that were entirely none of your business!   Leave Bob alone in all things.  He has better things to do than run around correcting your comments.

You can pick on me!  Call me names and tell how stupid I am.  I will agree with you.  I won't fight anyone!  Besides, I have too many "voices in my head".  Do the math on that!  I am not Bob and Gallon's counselor!  They have a very qualified CPA that deals with forensic crimes!  Nobody needs me!  Snoopy has credential that will leave everyone no doubts about the facts!

However, I will guarantee you that when all is said and done, I will see that I helped the IRS find some off shore accounts,  all from eBay sales.  They destroyed all those documents.  Can't find any at 3ABN.  However, eBay keeps great records.

Above all, God doesn't need a word I have ever said to take care of the problems with Danny and the 3ABN board.  However, I may again tell what I know whether you and your friends believe it or not!

God dumped this in my lap.  I am not, nor have I ever been a power seeker as you are Gregory.  I have held powerful positions, but they came to me.  I did not sneak around bad mouthing others to get it.  I shun power.  Being a person of influence is much more powerful than a position of power!  Haven't you even noticed?  I told the Lord I would scream until His chosen came to take over.  I learned early that you were not the one. When Gailon and Bob came along I starting being quiet until those at 3ABNTalk attacked my data as they are doing now. 

They did not post the post about the Trust Funds problems in Washington.  They only posted my comment about that posted fact.  There are those that continue to believe there was no problem with Trust Funds.  The 990s clearly say where the problems were.  Hello!  They keep posting there are no documents and no facts! That is OK with me.

I am a stupid Adventist, but I sincerely believe you intentionally belittled Bob.  However, you actually belittled yourself by doing so.  Are you jealous that God chose them instead of you?  You are so much more educated and have had classes in ethics and law.  My you could have cleaned the slate and made it all go away with nothing solved.  I would guess that God needed folks that would have faith and be led by God.  Yeah, your true character is shining through.  I struggled several years with the strong desire to call Linda and tell her of my experience with you so she would be very careful.  However, I didn't.  She figured it out all by herself.

My point is that you were rude, and that you stand behind that fact!  You could have gone all day long being kind, but you choose to be rude.  If you think I am being rude, you are right.  I cut to the chase to not deal with all the "I am holier than thou!" attitude.  I concede you are holier than me.  You have no argument from me.  I am sorry I am being so ugly, but it seems I have learned through experience it is the only type of language you understand, right.

[Bob Pickle]

I got your point about me missing the quotation marks.  I asked the question if they were there.  I did not say they were not there.  My error for asking questions; I am sorry for that.  However, you should have stated who said it.

Fran, in defense of Gregory, the context of the original quote makes clear who he was quoting from.

[Bob Pickle]

Now, not in defense of Gregory: Gregory, I notice that you may have left the following questions unanswered:

There was a time when 3-ABN was woking behind the scenes to see if an agreement would be reached with you by which they would dismiss their lawsuit.  Part of my involvement with one of these attempt was by telephone with you.

Is that the same time you sent the proposal that said, "Please keep in mind as you ponder this, I can provide no verification that what my contact told me is accurate or truthful. My contact did not ask me to contact you or even suggest that I do anything. ... It could be an elaborate set-up to check on the flow of information or simply the wishful thinking of someone desperately tired of this saga"?

Or are you referring to another time?

As to my comment in regard to your seeking compensation: A full response to that, to include why I thought the way I thought, would involve both statute and case law.

You wrote:

In an interesting development in this case, Bob Pickle has filed a motion in Federal Court in which he requests that 3-ABN and Danny Shelton compensate people for dropping the lawsuit against he and Gailon Joy.

Where did I ever request 3ABN and Danny Shelton to compensate people for dropping the lawsuit? And what statutes or cases ever put it that way?

Gregory,

You mentioned "compensation" again. Have you seen any statutes or cases that use that term for this kind of situation? Typically, that term in everyday English suggests a paycheck received for employment.

Also, you indicated familiarity with case law and statutes dealing with this general topic. Did you get any assistance in that from anyone who is not a licensed attorney?

To these questions I add another. You wrote:

I am looking for the post that I made but I have not found it.

Since you cannot find it, I assume you must have posted similar announcements in multiple places. Otherwise, I would think you would know exactly where you posted it if you posted but one announcement.

Roughly how many places did you post announcements about the motion for dismissal? Who or what was the first to tell you either that it was going to be filed or that it was filed? And exactly when did that occur?

[Fran]

Bob and Gregory;

The statement below is the statement I read.  He says "they".  That did not identify where it came from!  It is the last unquoted sentence that got my attention.  I have not read Gregory's whole post and I do not intend to go read it where ever it is!

Then Greg, you had the gall to imply you are smarter than Bob and you know more than him, but you know and aren't going to help, tell, teach him law. Instead you chose to be un-Christ like and be insensitive to others needs.  Your comment is very offensive!  I am not laughing. 

The comment also shows the legal team of Danny and 3ABN are Sukey too.  However, I do not think their comment angered me,  I think that comment from them is typical from an non-Adventist lawyer!  I thought it was insensitive, but accepted it from whence it came.  However, other people expect more from you Gregory!  OTH, maybe I should say, I expect far more from you, an Adventist Chaplain and all, but have been disappointed ever so many times!  You have in the past cited many of the things you are supposed to excel in!  IMO, what you are missing is experience and common sense!

As a point of interest, at one point they say: "In the annals of jurisprudence, it is doubtful that anybody ever sought reimbursement for a shower as a litigation cost. . . .Presumably he [Bob Pickle] would have showered anyway." Perhaps Bob will file a rebuttal which states that he would not have showered if he had not been involved in litigation?

[Bob Pickle]

My apologies, Fran, for not quoting more of it, and thereby preventing some confusion.

Thank you for your support.