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[Bob Pickle]

A lot of that lawsuit confuses me, I thought it was about copy-write infringement.  Not sure how everything else got involved.

They alleged within the complaint that we had posted a copyrighted video on Save3ABN.com, but didn't include copyright infringement as a count against us. IN other words, while they accused us of copyright infringement, they didn't sue us over that.

And it was all a lie anyway that we had infringed copyright, since they had advertised and argued in court that none of their programming was copyrighted.

It would be wrong for the board to release those photos to the public.

It would be wrong for the board to not release them to the public, after suing us over the matter.

They sued us over whether Linda had committed adultery. Since they did that, they were required to release those photos, if they really exist. Those photos would then have become public record, since they would have been used either against or for us, depending on whether they really were evidence or not.

One court case called conduct like what 3ABN and Danny did, in suing us and then refusing to participate in discovery, "undue vexatiousness." It's wrong. If they weren't going to produce those documents, they never should have sued us.

But this is nothing new. They sued over their property tax exemption denial, and then never produced their 990's when requested. Then they tried to slip them in later because they could help prove a point, but Administrative Law Judge Barbara Rowe wouldn't let them do that since they had not produced them to the other side when requested.

I do not think it is any secret that they did hire a PI to follow her and take those. I believe the PI is a matter of public info and has been discussed openly on some forums. Other wise I would not know about it.

3 PI's in 3 separate cars, is what Danny claimed were hired, in his ugly, unchristian little email.

[Daryl Fawcett]

Well, from another thread here, it seems that the shoe is on the other foot as they are now facing a lawsuit.

[Johann]

Well, from another thread here, it seems that the shoe is on the other foot as they are now facing a lawsuit.

Aren´t they masters at making lawsuits, so they ought to know how to handle them

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

"This is for **************** and all the others who salivate at the idea of bringing 3ABN down:

You cannot hurt 3ABN. Attorney Manly cannot hurt 3ABN. Alex Walker and Dennis Turley cannot hurt 3ABN. Pickle and Joy cannot hurt 3ABN. AdventTalk cannot hurt 3ABN. Linda Shelton cannot hurt 3ABN.

No one can hurt 3ABN except by God's permission. And you don't have it." Big Talkers

I am bemused by this comment...there must be one person who has God's permission: Danny Lee Shelton!!!

This miscreant is exceptional at setting up 3ABN and it's staff for hard falls...if you think of all the issues there is a COMMON THREAD,,,DANNY LEE SHELTON...I believe they have pointed out DLS is the Lightning rod...I would propose that DANNY LEE SHELTON IS THE LIGHTENING!!!! It is his decisions that have consistently gotten the ministry into one media disaster after another and whose life is a virtual hypocrisy to his own declarations...he is the one who breaks mended fences at every turn.

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK, DANNY LEE SHELTON...you will do what apparently no-one else has permission to do...that assumes God really is in charge and not DLS...the anointed one!!!

Gailon Arthur Joy
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[Johann]

Re: Linda Shelton Today

Postby Nikolas » Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:30 pm UTC
1. FACT: GAJ and RJP have not won one court case against 3ABN. Documented

2. FACT: The name of the motel is clear in the video from Private Investigators. Documented

3. FACT: Linda and Arild stayed at Alyssa's apartment (while Alyssa was out of town) nearly all night, until almost daylight. Documented

4. FACT: The night Linda and Arild stayed at Alyssa's apartment alone is when Arild presented Linda with her new two-faced watch. Documented

Nikolas
     
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Nothing brings 3ABN down as quickly as posts like the one above. You ar right, Cindy, there is no documentation, except for the first one.

I know that points number 2, 3, and 4 are all false, and it is falsehood like that which hurt Danny Shelton the most.

2. Yes, there was a motel where Arild and I stayed, but never Linda. She was in there for a while once in the daytime, and we were there all three of us all that time. So what else can be documented?

3. Yes, Linda stayed in Alyssa's apartment, and both Arild and I went there to help her write and send the letter for the Board which had to be delivered by morning. We sent it to Claus Nybo by e-mail and he promised he would bring a copy of if for each board member. I do not know if all of them saw it, or if Danny and/or Walt only kept it for themselves. It took us until around two in  the morning because something went wrong with Linda's laptop. Iit is not my fault that those Private Investigators did not include me in the pictures they took, but Danny would probably not have accepted any pictures with me on. Is Nikolas able to document if Linda's letter was read to the board members? Were they at least able to get that much of her side of the story before she was thrown out? Or were they all presented with just as false documents as you now present to those who follow you blindly?

4. That cheap watch we bought on the airplane was not presented to Linda at the apartment. That happened elsewhere and not at the apartment, and both Arild and I were there at the time. Linda and Arild were never alone in that apartment without me being present also, regardless of your claims of them being there alone. So whatever documentation you claim to have is false. I know because I was there. I will admit that a clever Private Investigator would have lots of possibilities of getting pictures of Arild and Linda without me being seen. We never posed for their pictures. But how does that document that I was not there too?

If your site wants to claim being trustworthy then you should demand better documentation than what is being posted there.

[Bob Pickle]

1. FACT: 3ABN and DLS have not won one court case against GAJ and RJP. Documented

2. FACT: 3ABN and DLS refused to produce the video in discovery, despite being required to do so. Documented

[princessdi]

Well, I was going to allow Johann very well writted post stand alone for a bit so the other side can marinate on the truth of it.  

However, with his blessing, I am going to post now because apparently I have joined the ranks of "those who are banned from internet forums".    LOL  I'm sorry, becuase I think my feelings are supposed to be hurt.  NOT!

I was banned for making allegations without support(paraphrased).  Now believe me, I do't' want the ban lifted, that is not an issue for me.  The problem as I see it is that you all banned me for posting allegations without support when for 7 years now you all have taken Danny's word for PI reports/photos, phone records, etc. as to Linda's guilt........to this day(and to my knowledge) none of you(or anyone) has seen any of this.  They did not materialize in court as promised....yet you believe Danny.  Now you have Nickolas, coming with a report.......seven years later...of Linda and the Dr. holding hands in the airport.....7 years ago......without one bit of support but his word.  Who is Nickolas and where was he 7 years ago?  I am sure this is the kind of information that would have been helpful in Danny's case against Linda.  Johann is an eyewitness to many of the incidents of which you speak, yet you don't believe him.  Excuse me, he was not just an eye witness, but much of this was his own experience.  

This marriage failed and you all want it to be all Linda's fault because Danny said so.  Well those of you who have been divorce(which apparently there are many)know that it is more likely when a marriage failed that there is fault on both sides, not just one.

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[princessdi]

ADMIN HAT ON

Post deleted due to inappropriate content.  The purpose of this forum is not to facilitate communication between members of other forums.

ADMIN HAT OFF

[Snoopy]

Sorry, but I had to chuckle out loud at this one!!!  IMAGINE!  Cindy Conard Ford banning someone from the smut site for making an allegation without support.  Wonders never cease.

Well, I was going to allow Johann very well writted post stand alone for a bit so the other side can marinate on the truth of it.  

However, with his blessing, I am going to post now because apparently I have joined the ranks of "those who are banned from internet forums".    LOL  I'm sorry, becuase I think my feelings are supposed to be hurt.  NOT!

I was banned for making allegations without support(paraphrased).  Now believe me, I do't' want the ban lifted, that is not an issue for me.  The problem as I see it is that you all banned me for posting allegations without support when for 7 years now you all have taken Danny's word for PI reports/photos, phone records, etc. as to Linda's guilt........to this day(and to my knowledge) none of you(or anyone) has seen any of this.  They did not materialize in court as promised....yet you believe Danny.  Now you have Nickolas, coming with a report.......seven years later...of Linda and the Dr. holding hands in the airport.....7 years ago......without one bit of support but his word.  Who is Nickolas and where was he 7 years ago?  I am sure this is the kind of information that would have been helpful in Danny's case against Linda.  Johann is an eyewitness to many of the incidents of which you speak, yet you don't believe him.  Excuse me, he was not just an eye witness, but much of this was his own experience.  

This marriage failed and you all want it to be all Linda's fault because Danny said so.  Well those of you who have been divorce(which apparently there are many)know that it is more likely when a marriage failed that there is fault on both sides, not just one.


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[princessdi]

That's what I'm sayin' Snoopy! 

Sorry for the other post.  I know that other's post in presonse to posts on "the other site", but I guess I took it a step too far.  My bad!

[Johann]

That's what I'm sayin' Snoopy! 

Sorry for the other post.  I know that other's post in presonse to posts on "the other site", but I guess I took it a step too far.  My bad!

I changed the color because the colors were too weak for my eyes. Thank you, PD!

[princessdi]

Oh my!  That color hurts everyone's eyes!  Who could see it?   I must have hit the wrong color.  I didn't even realize there was a pink.  As usual......my bad!  LOL!!!!

[christian]

What site did you get banned from? I am not on the other sites and perhaps it is a good thing because I would probably be banned too. In any case take heart it will be okay and in the end you will be justified. Either they will repent or they too will be banned, but their ban will be from heaven.

Well, I was going to allow Johann very well writted post stand alone for a bit so the other side can marinate on the truth of it.  

However, with his blessing, I am going to post now because apparently I have joined the ranks of "those who are banned from internet forums".    LOL  I'm sorry, becuase I think my feelings are supposed to be hurt.  NOT!

I was banned for making allegations without support(paraphrased).  Now believe me, I do't' want the ban lifted, that is not an issue for me.  The problem as I see it is that you all banned me for posting allegations without support when for 7 years now you all have taken Danny's word for PI reports/photos, phone records, etc. as to Linda's guilt........to this day(and to my knowledge) none of you(or anyone) has seen any of this.  They did not materialize in court as promised....yet you believe Danny.  Now you have Nickolas, coming with a report.......seven years later...of Linda and the Dr. holding hands in the airport.....7 years ago......without one bit of support but his word.  Who is Nickolas and where was he 7 years ago?  I am sure this is the kind of information that would have been helpful in Danny's case against Linda.  Johann is an eyewitness to many of the incidents of which you speak, yet you don't believe him.  Excuse me, he was not just an eye witness, but much of this was his own experience.  

This marriage failed and you all want it to be all Linda's fault because Danny said so.  Well those of you who have been divorce(which apparently there are many)know that it is more likely when a marriage failed that there is fault on both sides, not just one.

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[Daryl Fawcett]

I can tell you that it wasn't from the Maritime site.

What site did you get banned from? I am not on the other sites and perhaps it is a good thing because I would probably be banned too. In any case take heart it will be okay and in the end you will be justified. Either they will repent or they too will be banned, but their ban will be from heaven.

Well, I was going to allow Johann very well writted post stand alone for a bit so the other side can marinate on the truth of it.   

However, with his blessing, I am going to post now because apparently I have joined the ranks of "those who are banned from internet forums".    LOL   I'm sorry, becuase I think my feelings are supposed to be hurt.  NOT!

I was banned for making allegations without support(paraphrased).  Now believe me, I do't' want the ban lifted, that is not an issue for me.  The problem as I see it is that you all banned me for posting allegations without support when for 7 years now you all have taken Danny's word for PI reports/photos, phone records, etc. as to Linda's guilt........to this day(and to my knowledge) none of you(or anyone) has seen any of this.  They did not materialize in court as promised....yet you believe Danny.  Now you have Nickolas, coming with a report.......seven years later...of Linda and the Dr. holding hands in the airport.....7 years ago......without one bit of support but his word.  Who is Nickolas and where was he 7 years ago?  I am sure this is the kind of information that would have been helpful in Danny's case against Linda.  Johann is an eyewitness to many of the incidents of which you speak, yet you don't believe him.  Excuse me, he was not just an eye witness, but much of this was his own experience. 

This marriage failed and you all want it to be all Linda's fault because Danny said so.  Well those of you who have been divorce(which apparently there are many)know that it is more likely when a marriage failed that there is fault on both sides, not just one.

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[Johann]

   February, 2007

    My warmest greetings,

    A couple approached me with tears in their eyes and said, "We have just missed you and we wanted to see you to make sure you were okay." As I saw the pain in their eyes over the events that have transpired in my life in the last few years, it was as if my heart was pierced again. "We are just so happy to see you smiling, in church and still serving God." Our meeting took place a few months ago at the Bible Chapel Seventh-day Adventist Church where I am a member. I enjoyed my visit with this caring, Christian couple, along with the compassion and love they showed toward me.

    Some people act surprised that I am still a member of the SDA church. But why? God is still the same awesome God that He always has been, the incredible Bible truths embraced by Seventh-day Adventists are still just as true today as they ever were, and although a "thousand shall fall on my right and a thousand fall on my left," nothing will ever change these facts. We must hold firm to our faith during troubled times!

    Many have written to me over the past many months asking me to update my website. This I have prayerfully considered for quite some time, nearly a year. Quite frankly, I just have not known what to say. I feel that this scandal has made a large, festering, open wound in my Church. Perhaps the truth revealed will ultimately bring the healing that everyone needs. Then we can grieve together and move on. I am certain, in essence, I have died a thousand deaths over the events of the last couple of years. But, with the Lord's blessing, I will try to address issues which have been brought to my attention in the kindest manner possible.

    For the first time in nearly three years I will not simply deny the accusations, but will directly address certain issues. I do not take pleasure in speaking of these things. I think I have always been the one who would rather receive hurt, than be the one to inflict hurt upon others. But during the course of this last year I learned some valuable lessons through Dr. Mable Dunbar of Polly's Place Network; she has been an incredible support and help to me. Mable is a woman who truly loves the Lord and is not afraid to stand up for what she believes is right, even if a whole army would stand against her.

    Polly's Place Network is a ministry which empowers abused lives and aids them through their difficult circumstances. It is a marvelous organization and so needed for this age when Satan has focused his wrath upon breaking up the security and circle of love God intended for our families. I videotaped some interviews for Polly's Place at the SDA Conference office in Spokane, Washington with several individuals who had been through incredibly painful situations. Each of them, in essence, had the same healing story. It was when they were able to come forward and express the truth about what happened to them that their healing came. Inspired by these individuals, now I can accept and believe it is God's job to protect the ministry I have loved and co-founded, and it is my right and my healing to tell the truth about what has occurred.

    I am co-authoring a book and its purpose is to share the silver lining of the amazing lessons the Lord has taught me through this crisis. I feel the Lord has lifted a veil and allowed me to see the world that He sees, a world far different than we see. I see that the darts of false allegations that Satan has thrown toward me and my ministry were not directed solely for my downfall, but the aim was much wider. Although I was the apparent target, Satan was attempting to destroy the ministry I loved and co-founded and cripple the witness of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. My perspective has been forever changed through my experiences and my book will give me the opportunity to share these lessons more fully with all of you. (I will keep you posted as to the release date of this book.)

    John Knox once said, "Kings [or leaders] have not an absolute power to do in their government what pleases them, but their power is limited by God's Word; so that if they strike where God has not commanded, they are but murderers; and if they spare where God has commanded to strike, they and their thrones are criminal and guilty of the wickedness which abounds upon the face of the earth, for lack of punishment." John knew his Bible. It is a Biblical principle that if we see a wrong and only look the other way or feebly say, "I will let the Lord deal with that one," then that wickedness is applied to our slate, plain and simple.

    The most devastating blow a televangelist can get is the false accusation of adultery. Although I have already made this statement on my website I want to address those of you who have loved and valued my Christianity, integrity and my ministry for the 19 years that I was at 3ABN. I want to clearly emphasize that I was 100% faithful to my husband. I loved, trusted and believed in him to a fault. Imagine my shock when I realized that the false allegations in the form of libel, slander and defamation directed my way were initiated by two of the closest people to me on planet earth; one was my beloved partner and the other was my closest lady friend. I loved them both and trusted them both to the point that their close communication did not bother me in the least. I know that sounds naive, but I did not believe that Dan would do anything that would harm the ministry we had built together.

    In 2004 there was a tremendous outcry at my departure. There was suspicion over how swiftly I was fired from my position and divorced. There was suspicion over the fact that I never had the opportunity to talk to the Board and defend myself. There was suspicion over the fact that every trace of my presence was completely cleared out of the campus of 3ABN, even before my termination, as well as the website, television and radio broadcasts. I was made a sacrificial lamb in a scheme calculated to remove me from both my home and my ministry through an orchestrated campaign of malicious lies circulated around the globe. No words can begin to describe the absolute agony this has brought to my life, but there are other victims as well, and may God bless and spare the young lives and tender souls who have also felt the stinging thrust of this sword of scandal.

    It has completely broken my heart to see the emails and letters which have come from the Chairman of the Board, Dan and others at 3ABN, to hear of the television and radio programs where erroneous references have been made to the situation, to watch the ministry that I helped build with much devotion used to destroy me and also to hear of the reports of what is being said on the SDA chat sites about me today by those bent on my destruction ... nearly three years later.

    It was the false accusation of adultery which caused the loss of my marriage, my reputation, my employment, and everything else. I challenge the 3ABN Board to produce the "irrefutable evidence" which caused a co-founder, a lifetime Board member, Vice-President and Secretary of the Board to be removed in that May 2004 meeting! I am asking, no demanding, that the information be made public at my request! Cast aside those pretended desires to "spare me"! The world is waiting with baited breath!

    The stakes are high. I, as well as others, have personally experienced electronic surveillance, email theft, interception of cell phone calls, post-divorce entry into my private residence to the point where charges were filed with the police. It is not easy to live your life when you feel that you can never know for sure if you are being followed, watched or recorded ... even now. I have had invitations to do ministry thwarted because of continued allegations by those, who, like wolves in sheep's clothing, attempted to stop my ministry.

    I want to make this absolutely clear: I left my home because I was not safe, I was not welcome. I was witnessing the murder of my reputation and ministry day by day. I stayed as long as I felt I could. I hoped, believed and prayed that things would change but they only got worse. The statements made that I left my husband for another man are absolutely and totally false. Any thinking person would realize that I had everything a Christian woman could have wanted in this life: a husband I loved and the opportunity to minister to millions of people about the tremendous love of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, though the ministry that we spent so many years building together. Although two of the people who I loved best have called me "Gomer," yet a more accurate term would be "Hosea," which I would only discover later. But I prefer simply, Linda, "SAVED by the Blood of the Lamb!"

    I do not visit the chat sites. This has been a mega-trial for me and my way of coping has been to try and focus on other things. I realize that the individuals which make up our Church need healing from this disaster too. And perhaps the chat sites have served to help people give expression to their frustrations and hurts in this situation. I am grateful to each of you who have prayed and interceded for me. It has meant so much during my dark days. You'll never know just how much!

    Now my kids are grown and I am alone ... but not really alone, although I have no husband. Now I belong to everyone and everyone belongs to me! And I still sing, "Thank you for being my family, thank you for being my friends: May God bless and keep you in all that you may do until we meet again!"

    It is my goal to just make your journey and mine a little lighter and brighter. I have faith that the Lord still has a work for me to do, a new ministry. I am ready and available for church services, weeks of prayer, concerts, etc. as the Lord opens the doors. I do not know what my future holds, but God does and that's enough for me.

    Just in closing I want to make an appeal to you to get out your binoculars, dust them off, bring them into focus and then search. Love your neighbor enough to be a Good Samaritan. When he is broken and bleeding in the middle of the road, focus your binoculars with the love of Christ, but don't stop there; reach out and meet his need in his time of crisis. Christianity is not something that "just happens." True Christianity occurs when a decided action is taken ... when we search, when we fill a need, when we mend a broken heart and when we are just "there" for hurting people. There are a lot of them. But there are too few Christians who focus their binoculars with love.

    Thank you for being my family! Stay close to the Shepherd!

    Blessings to you and yours,

    Linda Shelton

In spite of this 3ABN or Danny Sheldon have only presented some unverified rumors!