Decided to log in to ask the following question:
Didn't anybody here read the post by Stan over at the other 3ABN site?
I will quote here what Stan posted there:
I was informed, by someone I have never met before, but I would consider a reliable source, that the IRS agent who did the investigation was terminated for doing it with out just cause.
Perhaps that is why Fran has not heard back from that person.
Does anyone else have knowledge of that?
Can anybody either verify or refute this?
Logging off again.
Daryl, in no feeble attempt to demean your Intelligent Quotient and especially as a SDA, let me humbly explain the overall internal control of the best known voluntarily self-assessing tax collection agency known to mankind whether you agree to all facits of the program or not. Before I strike out on the internal control facits, let me predicate my remarks on my taxpayer relations about taxpayer's general attitudes on the US system. I personally found in 50 years that taxpayers generally love the system as 97% was voluntarily reported by the taxpayers themselves with only 3% assessed in "examination type settings!"
Now back to the internal controls on tax examinations by the IRS from a "top down" perspective. Examiners are warned in taxpayer\representative relations not to feebly attempt to categorize an examination as to "type" such as "regular" so as not to mislead where the appearance of criminal conduct can enter at any time during the examination. Let the taxpayers\representatives draw their own conclusions throughout the engagement.
Tax returns are made available for examination through various and sundry programs that may require an examination in accordance with statistical assurance of employee integrity or tax collection program quality. The bulk of the tax returns made available to examiners are those that gives the examiner discretion in consultation with their group management whether it be field or office type examinations. Inquiries can be initiated by both the examination and criminal divisions where fraud, both civil or criminal, are indicated. Which division initiating the initial inquiry into this alleged matter is not material; however, we all understand that both the examination and criminal divisions were allegedly involved. Joint examinations between the two divisions are conducted in an independent yet cooperative manner. The two divisions exercise their individual cooperative examinations in such a manner that the criminal division remains cooperative so long as there are criminal aspects remaining that must be addressed by the criminal court system. Keep in mind that criminal fraud and civil fraud penalties appertaining to tax matters are not synonymous. Criminal penalties are set dollar amounts as well as potential confinement; whereas, civil fraud penalties involve a percentage of tax based on civil fraud acts rather than possible technical adjustment matters.
Everybody should understand that this alleged examination was initiated from a thrird party information rather than an examiner initiated, either division, matter. Examiners have a lot of discretion to initiate an examination under the guidance of their immediate superiors as the internal controls in place require the concurrance of management on a number of levels appertaining to bottom-up initiated examinations. The bottom line on the discretion of examiner initiated examinations is that an examiner can extend an examination backward or forward with the approval of superior management either by requesting the appurtnant return of copy of return obtained from the taxpayer.
The bottom line of this discussion is to dispell any insinuations about IRS personnel being terminated by "doing it without just cause" or "examiners discussing actual examinations with informants", both of which are baldfaced fabrications, aka bald faced lies! Furthermore, anyone using the following as averment of truth, "someone I have never met before, but I would consider a reliable source", would be immediately branded as a baldfaced liar, even the President of GC(period).
I hope I may have exploded the bubbles some may have rationalized on the morals of tax collectors just like may have been the case in "Bible-Times!
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