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[Bob Pickle]

My question probably has nothing to do with the reason for the document being included in this forum.

Did Larry Ewing  or anyone at 3ABN pay the fine by the time of the due date as promised?

I don't mean to sound silly but I want to know if it was paid. 

I don't know. But I have read that 3ABN was involved in doing another annuity after they got caught, and that after they got permission in Washington that Larry Ewing ordered documents pertaining to that annuity to be destroyed.

We had asked for documents from 3ABN that could potentially have vindicated 3ABN of these allegations, but just 4 days before they were supposed to produce those documents, they filed their motion to dismiss the case.

What is really bad is that Simpson on October 22 told the court in Illinois that they were going produce documents, which would have been on the 27th, and then he wrote me on the 23rd after filing his motion and said that he wasn't going to.

So you can decide for yourself whether 3ABN was trying to hide the evidence that these allegations were indeed true, or whether it is just coincidental that they never produced the documents that would have cleared them.

[Fran]

I have no question in my mind as to what they are doing!  Evil attracts evil.  They can't let the truth be told, and be published for case law in the future!  However, it is too late. People can see exactly what and who Danny Shelton was & is all about.  He is about lies, adultery, allegedly messing with minor girls just as his brother allegedly messes with minor boys, even his own!  He is about stealing money through eBay and Trust Funds, contrary to what "one" says!  Je put that money in his many signatory bank accounts.  They are still finding bank accounts.  What about all of those coins and the $170,000 he thought he had hideden?  How many were 3ABN aware of?  Not many, huh?

He took what donors sent to spread the gospel and lined his own pockets!  He didn't share with anyone, not even his wife!  He spent it for his personal use.  He had no shame, just greed.  His treatment of others is of the devil.  When the IRS finishes with him, I wonder if one of his BOD will step in once again and pay for him?  They should.  They are guilty of contributing to his life of crime!  They should be careful.  The IRS just might be sitting at their banks doorstep also!  The investigation is not over by a long shot!

Look at how many flocked after the lie that he was squeaky clean!  They published a bold face lie!  It is not over!  There is too much out there to calculate!  People will be shocked when all is said and done.  I am so disgusted at all of the evil that abounds with the support of ASI, 3ABN, Maranatha, and Amazing Facts!  They will be held accountable for their part in shielding Danny.

It is time for the truth to be seen by all of the world.  Forget about just Adventists!  Twenty years is too long!  I would encourage those reading to send their money to Global Missions and get the gospel to the world through God's chosen imperfect church!  Cease to give money to 3ABN, an entity that has clearly stolen donors funds, and has a BODs that have also supported that ministry when they know what has been gone on all along!

[Artiste]

I am so disgusted at all of the evil that abounds with the support of ASI, 3ABN, Maranatha, and Amazing Facts!  They will be held accountable for their part in shielding Danny.

I wonder when ASI, Amazing Facts, and Maranatha will be brought to account.

[Fran]

God will require it!  Now, or later.  Their characters are showing for all to see.

I wonder when ASI, Amazing Facts, and Maranatha will be brought to account.

I am so disgusted at all of the evil that abounds with the support of ASI, 3ABN, Maranatha, and Amazing Facts!  They will be held accountable for their part in shielding Danny.

[Snoopy]

Several things.

First, the document title is "Consent Order Imposing a Fine".  That is a real bad sign.

Next Findings of Fact 8 states that "In April of 2003, 3ABN had knowledge that it was required to obtain a Certificate of Exemption before issuing charitable gift annuities in Washington State.  3ABN issued 18 charitable gift annuities in Washington after having knowledge that it was required to obtain a Certificate of Exemption."  That tells me that one of two things happened, both equally negative in my opinion.  A charitable gift annuity (CGA) falls under the category of a type of life insurance.  Life insurance transactions are subject to a great deal of legal and regulatory requirements from which a non-profit issuer must apply for a Certificate of Exemption.  Either 3ABN Trust Services/Finance management knew of the requirement in April 2003 but blatantly ignored it and continued soliciting CGAs anyway, OR, someone at 3ABN was informed of the situation but didn't communicate it to those who needed to know.  Either way, Washington claims that 3ABN knowingly issued another 18 CGAs after they were aware of the Certificate of Exemption requirement.

Then, 3ABN consented to the order and acknowledged its duty, and it was signed by Larry Ewing on July 19, 2006.  The Insurance Commissioner then offered a fine in place of a suspension or revokation of 3ABN's Certificate of Exemption (which would preclude them from soliciting CGAs in the state).  The problem is that the fine imposed was $25,700!  And failure to pay it within 30 days would constitute grounds for suspension or revocation.  As of last week, 3ABN's Certificate of Exemption was suspended.  Again I see two possibilities, neither positive.  Either 3ABN didn't/couldn't/wouldn't pay the fine, or $25,700 of donor funds went to pay an unnecessary fine and a different offense resulted in additional suspension.

I wonder what internal controls 3ABN has in place to ensure they don't solicit CGAs from residents of Washington.

How?

Yes!!  A GREAT deal of significance!

Does this have any significance?

http://www.insurance.wa.gov/oicfiles/orders/2006orders/D06-232.pdf

[Snoopy]

That is a great question - not silly at all!!  And I would like to know as well.  Maybe Ian or GrandmaNettie or anyman or Sam could find out and get back to us.

My question probably has nothing to do with the reason for the document being included in this forum.

Did Larry Ewing  or anyone at 3ABN pay the fine by the time of the due date as promised?

I don't mean to sound silly but I want to know if it was paid. 

[Fran]

In my opinion, I believe 3ABN should not be able to do Trust Funds in any state or country!

The 3ABN vs IL Property Tax lawsuit clearly states they had problems in this area.  Then when comparing the lawsuit to the 990's for those years is very revealing.  Then for Jim Gilley to state on the air they will no longer borrow from the trust funds clearly states there is/was a huge problem!

This is just another confirmation that my assessment was correct!

Last night I got to listen to Brenda Walsh speak about Kid's Time and Book Marks, and being involved in a ministry, especially hers at Brenda Walsh.com!  IMO, she should be in Hollywood!  She is a good performer, if you are considering this as a complement, it is not.

Once I found out what was real and what was the counterfeit, it is hard for me to listen to them (Danny and Brenda) just roll out the name of Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit with such ease.  Her phone conversation was given with the same enthusiasm!  Those words just rolled right out with ease.  According to her presentation yeaterday, the Holy Spirit must have led her to tell such awful things that she new were NOT TRUE!

She said she doesn't do anything without praying and asking the Holy Spirit to lead her, so I guess it was her personal holy spirit speaking in that phone conversation.

I believe that God forgives, but I also believe there needs to be admission of wrong doing when the sin is so public.  Surely everyone realizes that sin can not be resolved until we admit to ourselves that we are the problem.  We must stop blaming others for our choices.  She chose to say those things of her own free will.

With every allegation, the person knows what their choices have been.  Cherished sins are hard to let go.  Destroying people is not of God.  What Danny, Brenda, and 3ABN have done to destroy Linda is wrong.  This was not of the Real God!  None of it was from the Real Holy Spirit.  Every time they deny any wrong doing, they move further from God.  God has been generous to give some many years to change their ways, but the Holy Spirit has not been able to bring change even now.  If one is continually refusing to listen to God's calls through the Holy Spirit, we know what will happen!  The Holy Spirit will leave.  God has been sending out warning after warning.  Is anyone listening?

I pray that I am.  This is serious business.  As we Seventh-day Adventist must be able to discern between God's Chosen and those who choose themselves for their own gain.  There are some people that can sell Eskimos air conditioners in the middle of the winter!  We must beware of what we hear.  What fruits do the speaker produce?  Are their slippery, slick voices of God or Satan.  Yes, in every church in the world there are wolfs in sheep's clothing!  We must be able to discern what is true at all times, everywhere.  We must be diligent and research what is being said by anybody.

My prayer is that God will speak to the hearts of all reading here and help them to make their decision as to what is truth for themselves.  I have.  We are told to study to show ourselves approved and to learn what is right.

"Seek, and you shall find!"

Everyone has an addiction of some kind.  Some are workaholics.  This was my downfall.  God took it away from me!  My selfish hearts desire is to go back to work triple time!  I loved it, it gave me a high that I cannot explain.  Time could fly and I would not even notice the time.  I had to set alarms to stop.  I was disappointed when I was interrupted for a useless reason.  I can't do that anymore!  I missed so much living doing my own thing.  I was this way in any task.  If I could not make a difference, I just didn't do it.  If I were able to work, I am sure I would fight the same thing again.

Alcoholics are always alcoholics, only some are "Recovering Alcoholics".  However, they fight it for life unless God cures them!

Sex Addicts are always Sex addicts.  They fight always.  Some become recovering Sex Addicts.

The sins we keep hearing about can be addictions.  Much prayer is needed.  An addict must first admit that they are alcoholics before there is hope for them to become recovering alcoholics. 

We have heard no one admit anything as yet.   How long will the Holy Spirit bear with us all!  I sincerely pray that I will be able to accept Jesus in my life 100% and allow him to control my life.  I am not so good at controlling myself!

[childoftheking]

The Illinois Attorney General's website has the 2006, 2005, 2004 and 2003 annual reports available again in pdf form   http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/charities/search/index.jsp.   In the 2006 report (page 39 of 42) (page 13 of the auditor's report) it states that "the organization has not maintained an appropriate composition of assets in amounts needed to comply with all donor restrictions." It states that "As of December 31 2006, donations restricted in capitol assets totaled $667,091.69 while total cash on hand was $494,508.15."  Are these donor restricitions what the Washington State document regarding 3ABN's ability to issue new Charitable Gift Annuities in that State (March 14 2007 through March 14 2008) was referring to?  See reply #123         031407 Washington.pdf


This Washington State document states specifically that 3ABN failed to meet the separate reserve and surplus requirements of RCW 48.38.020(3). The Washington document states that THREE ANGELS BROADCASTING NETWORK INC. filed its annual report December 31,2006 and reported a separate reserve fund balance of $7,409,935 which was less than the required minimum of $13,011,079. The amounts seem to be different but they both indicate a lack of restricted or reserve assets.

[Fran]

Exactly!  Trust Funds - Trust Funds - Trust Funds; Aren't people supposed to TRUST the people or organizations that write their Trust Funds?  It is supposed to be a TRUSTED transaction!

Every time I read these facts, I get sick inside.  How many times must God cause details to be presented, ignored and scoffed at?  God is indeed long suffering!

Once someone finds a way to wheel and deal, it gives an excitement that makes the adrenaline surge through the veins.  Yet, everyone has read all the evidence in court documents and still Danny & 3ABN lie about it.  Why are they brazen enough to do this?  Because the listeners/readers choose to not believe the truth right before their eyes!  It is easier to not believe the facts!

They would have to admit they were wrong.  That is the hard part.

[Bob Pickle]

Didn't they vote to dip into trust funds to pay for the TCTR books in 2006? And didn't that project put roughly half a million dollars into Danny's pockets?

Since 3ABN ended 2006 with a $3 million loss, the cost of those books, why didn't 3ABN sue Danny instead of us?

And when is Danny going to pay back all that money?

[Fran]

Well I have heard Danny say he has trouble paying his electric bill!  Danny doesn't pay his way.  Someone else always has to bail Danny out!  The board doesn't seem to mind!  The money was from some trusting Trust fund!  No sweat, let the donors pay him out of trouble.  They can't very well sue Danny since the board maybe voted to do it to protect the counterfeit. 

Someone said, "If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!"   Why are they still digging?

[ex3abnemployee]

Well I have heard Danny say he has trouble paying his electric bill!  Danny doesn't pay his way.  Someone else always has to bail Danny out!  The board doesn't seem to mind!  The money was from some trusting Trust fund!  No sweat, let the donors pay him out of trouble.  They can't very well sue Danny since the board maybe voted to do it to protect the counterfeit. 

Someone said, "If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!"   Why are they still digging?

I guess that's what I have the hardest time trying to figure out. Why does the board keep Danny around? Why do they think it is to their advantage to do so? What is Danny adding to 3ABN right now?

[Johann]

I guess that's what I have the hardest time trying to figure out. Why does the board keep Danny around? Why do they think it is to their advantage to do so? What is Danny adding to 3ABN right now?

Could it be stubbornness? A man who never budges once he has made a proclamation? Does it not matter if it is true or false?

[Bob Pickle]

1Sa 15:23  For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

Several things.

First, the document title is "Consent Order Imposing a Fine".  That is a real bad sign.

Next Findings of Fact 8 states that "In April of 2003, 3ABN had knowledge that it was required to obtain a Certificate of Exemption before issuing charitable gift annuities in Washington State.  3ABN issued 18 charitable gift annuities in Washington after having knowledge that it was required to obtain a Certificate of Exemption."  That tells me that one of two things happened, both equally negative in my opinion.  A charitable gift annuity (CGA) falls under the category of a type of life insurance.  Life insurance transactions are subject to a great deal of legal and regulatory requirements from which a non-profit issuer must apply for a Certificate of Exemption.  Either 3ABN Trust Services/Finance management knew of the requirement in April 2003 but blatantly ignored it and continued soliciting CGAs anyway, OR, someone at 3ABN was informed of the situation but didn't communicate it to those who needed to know.  Either way, Washington claims that 3ABN knowingly issued another 18 CGAs after they were aware of the Certificate of Exemption requirement.

Then, 3ABN consented to the order and acknowledged its duty, and it was signed by Larry Ewing on July 19, 2006.  The Insurance Commissioner then offered a fine in place of a suspension or revokation of 3ABN's Certificate of Exemption (which would preclude them from soliciting CGAs in the state).  The problem is that the fine imposed was $25,700!  And failure to pay it within 30 days would constitute grounds for suspension or revocation.  As of last week, 3ABN's Certificate of Exemption was suspended.  Again I see two possibilities, neither positive.  Either 3ABN didn't/couldn't/wouldn't pay the fine, or $25,700 of donor funds went to pay an unnecessary fine and a different offense resulted in additional suspension.

I wonder what internal controls 3ABN has in place to ensure they don't solicit CGAs from residents of Washington.

How?

Yes!!  A GREAT deal of significance!

Does this have any significance?

http://www.insurance.wa.gov/oicfiles/orders/2006orders/D06-232.pdf

Good Grief!!! Haven't you figured out that 3ABN is above the law??? Their contempt for the law can be demonstrated in so many ways we could write a book..."Show Cause Why 3ABN should not be held in Contempt" or "Contempt for the Contemptable"!!!

And Danny Lee Shelton and 3ABN could write a book "How to Show Contempt for Dummies!!!".

Any firm that will spend 2Million dollars in legal fees to cover up the sins of the founder should most certainly be considered in contempt of the Law...that is supposing that they feel they must keep the statutes of man...after all, remember, Danny Lee Shelton is the annointed of something...I refuse to believe or print that it was of the Lord!!! Just doesn't fit with the evidence.

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter