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[Daryl Fawcett]

Glad to see you over here, Calvin, defending your actions over there.

[Doodle]

To my knowledge nothing like that has been deleted, therefore, it must still be here somewhere.

Did you try using the Search Feature to locate it?

Why yes I did. Several times, especially as I knew right where it was and the post # too. I searched again this morning at 7:20, immediatly after you posted this, and it was still gone.

As the post is now back... and a search of the word "trustee" does show it, it seems someone is playing games here or being decietful, and maybe you should check on that.

It's a good thing I saved the HTMl code for the search page, or you might be tempted to think me either looney or a liar. I will do the same with this post as well in case you are having forum or moderator problems...

Most won't be able to read the part in the quotebox below, but if you copy and paste all that's in the quote box below into the box of any html code tester, you can see the page duplicated, and see the post in question was indeed gone before now.

  As a courtesy, here is a html tester that any member or reader here can use.

http://www.draac.com/htmltester.html

BTW, I am not the only one unhappy here:

******** Unacceptable link removed. - Daryl Fawcett, Administrator ******** 


From Doodle

[Bob Pickle]

Well, Doodle, it's fine with me if J. R. takes his diatribes elsewhere, especially since he presently is making false accusations regarding who is posting here.

[inga]

Calvin, thanks for clearing that up. I can certainly see how that happened.

Inga

Here is the PM I sent Sister soon after I edited her post.

 From: calvin
To: sister
Send Time: 09.02.2008 - 20:40
Read Time: 09.02.2008 - 21:26
Subject: I should not have edited your post

Sorry Sister for editing your post. I should have posted your story under my id. I felt is was important that since you started the story here that it was a disservice for our members to have to go elsewhere to continue following it. I see you have already made a few edit so I will leave it alone, however if you want to delete what I have posted that would be fine.

[Bob Pickle]

I need to know what year Jean Fiscalini was fired. Anyone know?

[Artiste]

Calvin on BSDA said that the story was four years old, but I don't know where that information came from.

[Bob Pickle]

Jean was at 3ABN in 2001. Someone is guessing he got fired the next year.

[Daryl Fawcett]

Doodle,

I also did a search word using the word trustee and only came up with your post here, therefore, I still don't know what missing and now found post you are referring to.

[Johann]

Jean was at 3ABN in 2001. Someone is guessing he got fired the next year.

I was asked to take part of his job towards fall of 2002. I was under the impression it was some time since he had been there.

[Bob Pickle]

Did tithe paying have anything to do with Jean Fiscalini's concerns?

My understanding is that Danny has testified under oath that he pays tithes to 3ABN. There are definitely pastors out there who would consider such conduct grounds for exclusion from the office of elder.

[Daryl Fawcett]

If that is true, then that would also show/prove that 3ABN accepts tithe.

[Sister]

Did tithe paying have anything to do with Jean Fiscalini's concerns?

My understanding is that Danny has testified under oath that he pays tithes to 3ABN. There are definitely pastors out there who would consider such conduct grounds for exclusion from the office of elder.

Where or how Danny Shelton paid tithe was information that Jean Fiscalini did not have access to as an Elder in the Thompsonville Church. If Danny has testified under oath that he pays tithes to 3ABN, it is by his own admission that informantion is made available.

Does that disqualify Danny for holding the office of Elder? Since Danny does not pay tithe to the Seventh-day Adventist Church that gives the impression that he personally does not support the SDA church. A leader leads by example. If the example Danny Shelton gives is paying tithe to his own private ministry/business instead of the organized Church, what example is he sending out to others as a local church leader?

Sister

[Sister]

If that is true, then that would also show/prove that 3ABN accepts tithe.

It was no concern to 3ABN where the money comes from, a member of the pastoral staff was told not to discourage callers who wanted to send their tithe money to 3ABN. Molly Steenson had said, “We don’t ask where money is coming from, that is the responsibility of the one sending it.” Even if the money is marked as tithe, it is accepted by 3ABN and not passed on to the Illinois Conference. If Danny, himself, by his own testimony, believes it is acceptable to give his personal tithe to 3ABN; why would he be unwilling to knowingly accept tithe as donations to 3ABN?

[Snoopy]

Hi Calvin!!!  Welcome to AdventTalk!  It is great to see you here!!

Blessings,

Snoopy

Here is the PM I sent Sister soon after I edited her post.

 From: calvin
To: sister
Send Time: 09.02.2008 - 20:40
Read Time: 09.02.2008 - 21:26
Subject: I should not have edited your post

Sorry Sister for editing your post. I should have posted your story under my id. I felt is was important that since you started the story here that it was a disservice for our members to have to go elsewhere to continue following it. I see you have already made a few edit so I will leave it alone, however if you want to delete what I have posted that would be fine.

[Sister]

The conclusion of "Nobody Owns the Church" will be posted both here and on BSDA today.