Bonnie, I agree for sure, no doubt about it. It's the church they sucked in....
But tell me what you are going to do about it? Report them to the GC. Frankly I would suspect we have them here reading as it goes.
The IRS,if that has been concluded not a thing anyone can do. If not and the IRS is still investigating something may come of it. But that is out of the hands of most one here.
You need a concrete complaint before the IRS gets into a lentghy and expensive investigation
Sometimes husbands have to be taught a foolish lesson. That is of course if you know they really love you. My husband and I have a great understanding of things. (smile)
If this woman needed to teach a already accusing husband her husband and her did not have a great understanding of things.
[quote) Believe me, I am sick, sick over it. This is what I want someone to undue, go after, change, and with who ever, or what ever it takes.[/quote]
"The whatever it takes" is the problem. The accuser becomes as bad as the accused
No one can undo what has been done. If Bob and Gailon wish to [pursue if they can go for it,but do it upfront and honestly. Stop with the innuendos and implications. If you know something to have actually happened that is important, quit playing with it and say so
Forgive me as I was not sure of the meaning of your last post other then it appears it seems that someone was with your daughter in law (DiL )while her husband or your son was doing the same. I was not reading it clear what you meant.
Believe me I know this can happen with an SDA pastor as well as any. I had one come on to me in early years and was so naive that I hardly knew where he was coming from until his arm slid around me and started pulling me to sit on his lap. I was shocked and horrified. I could not believe it. Yes I was sad at the time (18 yrs ol) It was embarrassing to get rid of him. I was so horrified that I kept it to myself and suffered that a married man tried to touch me. It kept me from church for a while as this one came in as an Evangelist. I often wondered what happened and what he did next. I only finally spoke of it to my husband just a couple of years ago. Wouldn't that be terrible if this was the same clergy!
Be careful of that,Bob will want to know the exact day you do and the exact day leadership knew. Or a statement made that we have had this going on in the denomination since EW can have Bob wanting to know the dates she knew
Then the answer is quite simple for Bob and Gailon,get it in front of a jury. Stop the implications. The pretense ,the asking others to do the dirty work of going to the sleazy media such as National Enquirer
Again Bonnie, That is what makes DS the Pied piper to misuse, abuse, and use the Adventists to benefit his desires and they all followed like the pigs over the cliff while he is yelling INdependent, Independent. He used The Advent message, There 3 Angels symbols. That makes him so much worse. That is a big deceiver, and a thief in my book.
Two sides follow like pigs,just a toss up to who hits bottom first.
The advent message in the wrong hands does a great deal of damage.
I came to my own conclusion by the visual facts as I was a great believer in the cause of 3abn. I do not know anyone one here or their background. I am sorry though about DIL and your son. My shock of this sort of thing was just getting away quick. But again look at the worse scenario of the victims of TS.
I don't have to look now,I know what happens to many victims. The fact of the matter is no one can do anything to TS. He is not a criminal on the loose,he has not been charged and convicted and DS did nothing illegal about hiring him. I believe people like that belong in prison for a very long time,but ain't going to happen in this. Bob and Gailon cannot fight as a stand in for the alleged victims.
Using sneaky,silly underhanded tactics of Bob and Gailon is not going to make it all right and go away