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[Bob Pickle]

Since 3ABN has issued a press release, I would suggest that folks might take it and send it to every media outlet and talk show host that you can think of. Larry King, Fox News, that Grace lady, Christianity Today, Wall Street Journal, etc.

National Enquirer would even maybe pay you for the tip.

And if you send their press release on, you can tell these media folks that I am available for interviews, and can send them loads of documents that have not been declared confidential.

To all appearances 3ABN is claiming that there was nothing wrong with Danny's 2003 horse donation and his 1998 real estate deal and his 2006 TCTR campaign. That is a blatant fraud, and every media outlet that gets 3ABN's press release needs to have the opportunity to know just how big a fraud and a farce it is.

[Sister]

Here is the link to 3ABN's press release: http://www.3abn.org/announcements.cfm

It is titled: Reputation of Three Angels Broadcasting Network Restored, Lawsuit Dropped

Bob, has the court agreed with the demand for dismissal of the lawsuit?

[bonnie]

Since 3ABN has issued a press release, I would suggest that folks might take it and send it to every media outlet and talk show host that you can think of. Larry King, Fox News, that Grace lady, Christianity Today, Wall Street Journal, etc.

National Enquirer would even maybe pay you for the tip.

And if you send their press release on, you can tell these media folks that I am available for interviews, and can send them loads of documents that have not been declared confidential.

Why don't you do your own dirty work?
You know of course the MN conference never owned up to anything,no responsibility of any kind for what happened. Would my son have been jsutified in doing same?

Again, you make me enormously proud of my son. HIs life was destroyed, his children hurt beyond belief. He refused requests for interviews and the national media which did approach him. Not because he asked for someone to contact the media. To do so would have been only because he wanted to inflict as much damage as possible to the denomination

To all appearances 3ABN is claiming that there was nothing wrong with Danny's 2003 horse donation and his 1998 real estate deal and his 2006 TCTR campaign. That is a blatant fraud, and every media outlet that gets 3Ban's press release needs to have the opportunity to know just how big a fraud and a farce it is.

To all apearances the MN conference claimed no wrong doing as well. Should we have done what you are now trying to get others to do

[Daryl Fawcett]

Here is the whole text of this press release:

PRESS RELEASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Reputation of Three Angels Broadcasting Network Restored, Lawsuit Dropped

October 23, 2008 - West Frankfort, Illinois – Dr. Walter Thompson, Chairman of the Board of Directors of Three Angels Broadcasting Network (3ABN), announced today that the Board has instructed its attorneys to seek dismissal of its lawsuit against Robert Pickle and Gailon Arthur Joy, which has been pending in Massachusetts Federal Court since April, 2007.

The Board made the difficult decision to file a lawsuit after first applying biblical principles on conflict resolution. The suit came only after 3ABN tried to persuade Mr. Pickle and Mr. Joy to shut down websites they owned and operated which were being used to spread disparaging statements about 3ABN, and its founder and past president, Danny Shelton.

The Board originally authorized the lawsuit in order to protect 3ABN’s name from being hijacked by those who would use it to attract 3ABN supporters to their website, and then burden them with messages of despair and distrust, instead of hope and faith.

The Board took forceful steps because it felt that protecting the organization’s good name was necessary to the fulfillment of 3ABN’s mission of broadcasting the everlasting gospel to the world as it is described in the three angels’ messages of Revelation 14 and 18.

The lawsuit, entitled, “Three Angels Broadcasting Network, Inc. and Danny Lee Shelton vs. Gailon Arthur Joy and Robert Pickle,” alleges that Mr. Joy and Mr. Pickle violated federal trademark laws by owning and operating web sites that contained the “3ABN” name, which they used to publish false accusations about 3ABN and Mr. Shelton. However, on August 14, 2007, Mr. Joy filed for personal bankruptcy in the Massachusetts bankruptcy courts. The websites that 3ABN alleged were in violation of trademark laws were among Mr. Joy’s assets. On February 12, 2008, 3ABN bought them from the bankruptcy trustee for a nominal sum. The web sites were then immediately shut down, which achieved one of the major goals of the lawsuit.

The Board felt that the other major objective of the lawsuit, that of assuring the public that 3ABN’s financial and administrative conduct was proper, has also been achieved outside of the lawsuit. Although 3ABN and Danny Shelton have always used the services of outside accounting firms to make sure that their tax returns and other filings are accurate and in full compliance with the laws, the Internal Revenue Service conducted a thorough review of 3ABN and Mr. Shelton which included a review of their financial records for the audit period, 2000 to 2006.

The investigation took more than a year, and in July 2008, 3ABN’s attorneys related that the IRS investigation had ended. After reviewing over 100,000 pages of financial records, and interviewing numerous witnesses, the investigation simply ended without requesting 3ABN or Mr. Shelton to change their tax returns in any way, or to pay additional taxes.

The Board views this IRS action as a vindication of its position that both 3ABN and Danny Shelton fully complied with tax laws. Had the IRS found any violations it would have, at the very least, ordered them to file corrected returns. Instead, there was no finding that 3ABN, or Mr. Shelton, had committed any wrongful act.

The Board had hoped for a letter from the IRS indicating that 3ABN and Mr. Shelton were in full compliance with the law, but the attorneys informed us that the IRS does not issue such letters, no matter what their investigation shows.

Similarly, Mr. Pickle and Mr. Joy had made allegations that certain 3ABN employees in the wills and trusts department had been mistreated. These allegations were investigated by California state authorities, as well as the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. 3ABN was notified by its attorneys in March 2008 that the claims had been dismissed for insufficient evidence. Once again, the governmental agencies charged with enforcing the law looked into the allegations, and determined there was no evidence that any law had been violated.

Last week, the Board reviewed figures showing that 3ABN’s donation levels have returned to the level they enjoyed before the attack on its reputation began. They believe this shows that the public’s confidence in 3ABN has been restored. When the Board concluded that 3ABN’s reputation was no longer being significantly harmed by the Defendants’ activities, they decided that continuation of the lawsuit could not achieve more than what had already been achieved by other means. The Board then promptly voted to direct its attorneys to dismiss the lawsuit.

[ex3abnemployee]

Here is the whole text of this press release:

PRESS RELEASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Reputation of Three Angels Broadcasting Network Restored, Lawsuit Dropped

October 23, 2008 - West Frankfort, Illinois – Dr. Walter Thompson, Chairman of the Board of Directors of Three Angels Broadcasting Network (3ABN), announced today that the Board has instructed its attorneys to seek dismissal of its lawsuit against Robert Pickle and Gailon Arthur Joy, which has been pending in Massachusetts Federal Court since April, 2007.

The Board made the difficult decision to file a lawsuit after first applying biblical principles on conflict resolution. The suit came only after 3ABN tried to persuade Mr. Pickle and Mr. Joy to shut down websites they owned and operated which were being used to spread disparaging statements about 3ABN, and its founder and past president, Danny Shelton.

The Board originally authorized the lawsuit in order to protect 3ABN’s name from being hijacked by those who would use it to attract 3ABN supporters to their website, and then burden them with messages of despair and distrust, instead of hope and faith.

The Board took forceful steps because it felt that protecting the organization’s good name was necessary to the fulfillment of 3ABN’s mission of broadcasting the everlasting gospel to the world as it is described in the three angels’ messages of Revelation 14 and 18.

The lawsuit, entitled, “Three Angels Broadcasting Network, Inc. and Danny Lee Shelton vs. Gailon Arthur Joy and Robert Pickle,” alleges that Mr. Joy and Mr. Pickle violated federal trademark laws by owning and operating web sites that contained the “3ABN” name, which they used to publish false accusations about 3ABN and Mr. Shelton. However, on August 14, 2007, Mr. Joy filed for personal bankruptcy in the Massachusetts bankruptcy courts. The websites that 3ABN alleged were in violation of trademark laws were among Mr. Joy’s assets. On February 12, 2008, 3ABN bought them from the bankruptcy trustee for a nominal sum. The web sites were then immediately shut down, which achieved one of the major goals of the lawsuit.

The Board felt that the other major objective of the lawsuit, that of assuring the public that 3ABN’s financial and administrative conduct was proper, has also been achieved outside of the lawsuit. Although 3ABN and Danny Shelton have always used the services of outside accounting firms to make sure that their tax returns and other filings are accurate and in full compliance with the laws, the Internal Revenue Service conducted a thorough review of 3ABN and Mr. Shelton which included a review of their financial records for the audit period, 2000 to 2006.

The investigation took more than a year, and in July 2008, 3ABN’s attorneys related that the IRS investigation had ended. After reviewing over 100,000 pages of financial records, and interviewing numerous witnesses, the investigation simply ended without requesting 3ABN or Mr. Shelton to change their tax returns in any way, or to pay additional taxes.

The Board views this IRS action as a vindication of its position that both 3ABN and Danny Shelton fully complied with tax laws. Had the IRS found any violations it would have, at the very least, ordered them to file corrected returns. Instead, there was no finding that 3ABN, or Mr. Shelton, had committed any wrongful act.

The Board had hoped for a letter from the IRS indicating that 3ABN and Mr. Shelton were in full compliance with the law, but the attorneys informed us that the IRS does not issue such letters, no matter what their investigation shows.

Similarly, Mr. Pickle and Mr. Joy had made allegations that certain 3ABN employees in the wills and trusts department had been mistreated. These allegations were investigated by California state authorities, as well as the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. 3ABN was notified by its attorneys in March 2008 that the claims had been dismissed for insufficient evidence. Once again, the governmental agencies charged with enforcing the law looked into the allegations, and determined there was no evidence that any law had been violated.

Last week, the Board reviewed figures showing that 3ABN’s donation levels have returned to the level they enjoyed before the attack on its reputation began. They believe this shows that the public’s confidence in 3ABN has been restored. When the Board concluded that 3ABN’s reputation was no longer being significantly harmed by the Defendants’ activities, they decided that continuation of the lawsuit could not achieve more than what had already been achieved by other means. The Board then promptly voted to direct its attorneys to dismiss the lawsuit.

Hmmm.....nothing about Tommy in there.

Musta just forgot it. Yeah, that's gotta be it.

[GRAT]

Bonnie - Maybe if your son or you had done such the church would have been forced to deal with the problem on a larger level and maybe some other family would have been spared the hurt.  They may have been forced to not ship pastors off to some other church rather than dealing with the problems. 

[bonnie]

Bonnie - Maybe if your son or you had done such the church would have been forced to deal with the problem on a larger level and maybe some other family would have been spared the hurt.  They may have been forced to not ship pastors off to some other church rather than dealing with the problems. 

The responsibility for that lies in the hands of the members. Most members are not concerned enough for each in their own churches to make sure vulnerable people are protected. As members we have allowed the denomination to act in this manner.

It is  not the failure somehow of my son that other families are hurt. He fought for six years and for six years it was considered his fault it became news. "He was in it for the easy money", "Yeah, the pastor was wrong,but there were good things he was doing"


What Bob is after from his post is for members here to make calls and make it known enough that it gets picked up and he gets a few more minutes of fame.
To even contemplate the contacting of a sleaze magazine like National Enquirer for pay is something that should give all some long serious thought about the motivation

[Habanero]

Bonnie - Maybe if your son or you had done such the church would have been forced to deal with the problem on a larger level and maybe some other family would have been spared the hurt.  They may have been forced to not ship pastors off to some other church rather than dealing with the problems. 

The responsibility for that lies in the hands of the members. Most members are not concerned enough for each in their own churches to make sure vulnerable people are protected. As members we have allowed the denomination to act in this manner.

Yes, and doing what members like Bob and Gailon are doing in making public that garbage helps to prevent it from continuing. They have shown enough concern for people that they have put themselves at significant risk to try stopping the abuse, yet you can do nothing but attack them for at least trying. Have you tried? Or have you simply sat on the sidelines criticising them and talking about how hopeless it is to try doing anything?

It is  not the failure somehow of my son that other families are hurt. He fought for six years and for six years it was considered his fault it became news. "He was in it for the easy money", "Yeah, the pastor was wrong,but there were good things he was doing"

What Bob is after from his post is for members here to make calls and make it known enough that it gets picked up and he gets a few more minutes of fame.

And you know this, how? You seem to have a very big problem with someone actually taking action to help people who have been hurt and trying to stop further hurt. It is not uncommon for people who don't have it in them to do anything when someone is being hurt to attack the people who are doing something. Whatever issue you may have with Bob's call for people to make sure that the press gets 3ABN's press release, he at least has tried to do something. What about you? Other than attacking people who do something, what have you done? What are you doing to stop the various abuses perpetrated on people by 3ABN and some of its administrative people.
To even contemplate the contacting of a sleaze magazine like National Enquirer for pay is something that should give all some long serious thought about the motivation.

To perpetually attack people who try to help people raises serious questions about motivation as well.

[Artiste]

What about putting out our own press release from Bob and Gailon?

[Johann]

Habanero wrote:

To perpetually attack people who try to help people raises serious questions about motivation as well.

Worth considering!

[bonnie]

color=red]And you know this, how? You seem to have a very big problem with someone actually taking action to help people who have been hurt and trying to stop further hurt. It is not uncommon for people who don't have it in them to do anything when someone is being hurt to attack the people who are doing something. Whatever issue you may have with Bob's call for people to make sure that the press gets 3ABN's press release, he at least has tried to do something. What about you? Other than attacking people who do something, what have you done? What are you doing to stop the various abuses perpetrated on people by 3ABN and some of its administrative people.[/color]
To even contemplate the contacting of a sleaze magazine like National Enquirer for pay is something that should give all some long serious thought about the motivation.

To perpetually attack people who try to help people raises serious questions about motivation as well.

No, I don't have a problem with someone taking action to help people. I have a problem when the  actions of the ones helping can't be distinguished from the ones doing the harm.


We have a new member "Crystal" wanting to cause speculation concerning DS and other women. Maybe true,but if she knows she should say so instead of what could be baseless speculation. Now we have this.........

Might ask if he has ever videotaped some high school baseball games and put them up for satellite viewing?

It seems to be a game by where we put out likely scenario's speculation instead of coming straight out with the facts.
Maybe because what people can speculate is much juicer than what occurred.
Fran's reply below is what speculation does. Is it true, say so. If you have no idea or are simply trying to create more suspicion it is wrong.

That is what I object to, not someone trying to help another in need. Calling the National Enquirer for pay. To me that has really stooped lower than the limbo pole

This questions brings to mind many more questions.

If this is true, did Danny use 3ABN equipment and workers?

If so, he should have receipts showing where he rented the equipment; paid for the air time; and paid the workers out of his own pocket, right?

If not, he should be able to explain just exactly how this spread the gospel to the world, right?

If it was donors funds that were used for this event, did the donors agree that this was an activity they would approve of?

If this was done, was this done to Glorify God or to glorify Danny?

 
 

[Eduard]

Bob,

So, after about two years of threats, intimidation, harassment, expenses, and incredible hardship caused not only to you and Gailon but to all those who dared to show all the evil things that have been going on at 3ABN, Danny Shelton and Walter Thompson have decided to drop the lawsuit and simply walk away. From the press release it is clear that they don’t want to accept that anything went wrong at 3ABN. The guilty ones are the people who blew the whistle on the wrongs going on there.


How nice! What happens with all the pain they have caused to hundreds of people all this time? Who returns the money spent on this arrogant and evil lawsuit? Who pays for the hundreds of hours spent collecting evidence?  Are you and Gailon going to allow Danny Shelton, Walter Thompson, and their gang to get away with it? It would be an extraordinary injustice to permit these evil men to continue their evil actions without any kind of consequences. All our actions have consequences. They need to be brought to accountability! They need to be brought to confess all the evil deeds they have committed and resign from their positions! They need to go to prison!

These people should not get even near 3ABN. They are not God’s people, and do not represent His work. They are mean, arrogant, and unrepentant evil men who do their own thing while they claim that they are doing God’s work.

Are you two going to countersue?


Eduard
 

[tinka]

Eduard,
Gailon basically knows who I am as we have communicated off site. I for one can vouch through a very high profile situation and case to go through something when all is piled against you to take what you have by huge high powered political organization for political reasons. We also have all truth of the matter in documents to prove truth.  In fact the only thing we have left is truth of what happened. Not one soul to help or care after we were stripped of everything. (Just like Linda). We know exactely how it feels. No brethern to help you, No lawyers that won't unless be paid big bucks, Humulation, no where to go.  So the game plan is the same pattern with this horrific truth of facts of visual extravanza of 3abn, that while all the dirt is swept under the carpet to check out the next days incoming cash from the followers of the "piper of distruction."  Does anyone on here realize the destruction of lives that can happen from cover up. Our lives have been devestated by exactely this sort of stance of much higher organization of power then 3ABN. The true believer knows that this is not what EGW says to cover up...This is total corruption of true facts. Money and power it takes to "cover up" in order to take in more of the money and all stand on that side help it out. We know it first hand.

I am new on here and not used to be on sites like this so it will take me a little time to see how all this works as I even barely do the computer other then some personal use. Sometimes my words don't come out exactely just right or music to anyone's ears but my heart hopefully is in the right place. I cannot stand to see as I read the destruction of peoples lives that this has caused that have nothing else but greed of moneyand passions. IF there was nothing wrong you would not have this now. and again, "shun all appearances of evil."  Is everyone blind to the facts of what has happened to peoples lives?? Do you think that God's has to let his word go through the Spirit Of Darkness to be spread throughout the world? What are we thinking??

[bonnie]

  Is everyone blind to the facts of what has happened to peoples lives?? Do you think that God's has to let his word go through the Spirit Of Darkness to be spread throughout the world? What are we thinking??

No to your question. I believe much has been or is wrong at 3ABN. I don't believe that all that have had faith in what DS seemed to represent are trash or without value.

To try to get media attention by a round about way,pretending they have sought him out, which I believe Bob would do.
Suggesting the National Enquirer to those interested in doing this for pay simply cannot be excused.


Don't you think those they have been championing...those little abused people  should be putting up the funds instead of asking 3abn donor money to pay them? Or the National Enquirer to pay.  Oh wait, maybe those little people aren't cooperating any more. 

Tell meif I were to tell you that(speculation of course) that bob or gailon,either one are seperated from their wife. Then wonder if maybe there are a number of women involved. How long would that remain as compared to "the many women " speculation concerning DS. If he did, say so. If he didn't or you don't know,don't speculate maliciously

[quaddie47]

Since 3ABN has issued a press release, I would suggest that folks might take it and send it to every media outlet and talk show host that you can think of. Larry King, Fox News, that Grace lady, Christianity Today, Wall Street Journal, etc.

National Enquirer would even maybe pay you for the tip.

And if you send their press release on, you can tell these media folks that I am available for interviews, and can send them loads of documents that have not been declared confidential.

To all appearances 3ABN is claiming that there was nothing wrong with Danny's 2003 horse donation and his 1998 real estate deal and his 2006 TCTR campaign. That is a blatant fraud, and every media outlet that gets 3ABN's press release needs to have the opportunity to know just how big a fraud and a farce it is.

This is just one of many calls by you and others to contact the mainstream press as well as government agencies.  We never did hear back how successful your past efforts were when you were dropping what was then considered new and explosive charges.  Can you give us an update on the results of your past efforts?