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[Bob Pickle]

What would a copy of a sworn affidavit by an Illinois licensed PI be worth to you Bob?

You have an affidavit that says they were holding hands? I have a notarized statement from Linda's daughter saying that Danny sexually assaulted her.

Which is worse? Holding hands or incestuous sexual assault?

Why is Danny still at 3ABN if Linda isn't?

[Bob Pickle]

DS and the board has always had outside auditors and have also had attorneys to look over any and all financial dealings as they wanted to maintain their well earned credibility when it comes to taking donors money and investing it in the spreading of the gospel.

Baloney! We've already shown that Alan Lovejoy helped Danny hide what was going on by calling book sales "video sales" on the summaries he made for the property tax case hearing. To his credit he fessed up during the hearing and admitted that there were book sales in there.

But he put all the newsletter advertising expense under the video sales column, and none under the satellite system column, thus artificially lowering the profits of the video sales to less than what they were.

Plus, he said that 3ABN wasn't making a profit on those video sales when Danny was making a whopping profit on his book sales. That isn't above board in my book.

As far as attorneys go, name which ones you're talking about.

No matter how hard headed, prideful and arrogant you are, you were wrong to accuse DS and 3ABN of financial wrong doing.

When did I do that? And where did I do that? Quotes please, and then I will comment.

I think Danny tried to manipulate the whole controversy into just that. That way he could try to make the immorality allegations against him and Tommy go away.

All things work together for good according to the bible and that is what happened in my opinion when you all got the IRS involved. Why?  Because only the IRS could clear 3ABN of all your charges of wrong doing...AND THAT THEY DID!  The year long investigation was dropped without DS or 3ABN paying one penny to the IRS!

Don't you know that lying is a sin? What you just wrote is a bald face lie, and I am certain that you know it.

Bob, there's no longer a reason to keep going to court over all the other ridicules things you come up with because you appear ate up with the gossip bug.  The donors have heard the truth and have spoken.  They see the fruits of 3ABN and they see your fruits of judging and being an accuser of the brethren.

Donors who see the fruit of Danny Shelton are utterly disgusted and repulsed.

[Bob Pickle]

Yet by your own rules of judgment you lie yet have never apologized for it.
You lied to Wickepedia right?  You claimed you were a Dr. because you thought it would give you more credibility about info you were giving to them. Bob a lie is a lie is a lie.

That shows how pathetic your case really is. The worst dirt you can dig up on me is a username I chose. So are you a liar if your name really isn't Sam? Get real.

That username was not a lie, and I was not impersonating a doctor by using it.

And you call me an accuser of the brethren?
 

And Bob, didn't you tell the court you are a Pastor?  If so, isn't that a lie?  We know you are not a licensed SDA Pastor so what is the name of the church you are pastoring?  Isn't that misleading...again? Would that also be considered a lie?

Quote please, and then I'll comment.

Well, what do you think?  What can you say?  You accuse 3ABN of things that you yourself have done.

Show me where I have ever covered up child molestation allegations, claimed phone card phone records existed when they didn't, claimed a Delta Airlines ticket existed when it didn't, said I had proof that my name was on a car title when it wasn't, said I did a thorough investigation without talking to one single alleged child molestation victim, divorced my wife without biblical reasons, made around $750,000 or more in kickbacks and/or royalties without telling donors, made $129,000 in one week on a real estate while lying to the IRS by saying that no such thing happened, etc., etc., etc.

Show me where I have ever done any of these things.

Your spreading of lies on the net is certainly not a secret sin.

Document one single lie I've told, and then let's talk.

[Bob Pickle]

Let me throw something out to you and see if you can follow me.  What if Danny never owned any proof that Linda and the Dr. were holding hands walking down the street together? Does that mean that whomever paid for the PI report didn't have the proof?  Absolutely not!  There as been strong hints all along that Danny never paid for a PI but that someone else did. Do you think that Danny has seen the proof including some video of the two together without Johann present?

First of all, why is Garwin mixed up in the mess like this?

Second, Danny already admitted in writing that the video was staged, that they purposely kept Johann out of the video they took.

Third, Danny was duty bound to produce that video in response to my requests to produce, and he refused.

Fourth, Elder Denslow told me he'd seen the video, so it is supposed to exist. The question is why Danny was so scared to produce.

No way in the world would any President of any company allow a Gailon Joy for instance to come and do a financial investigation by an unqualified convicted felon (embezzler)  just because the convicted felon is demanding that he be allowed access to 3ABN's finances.

You're not making a bit of sense. If Danny would hire Emma Lou to be in the accounting department after she lost her job at the bank for allegedly stealing money, surely someone being a convicted embezzler wouldn't stop Danny from hiring them.

Remember, Danny didn't have any problem hiring Tommy and allowing him to work with Kids' Time even though he had allegedly molested lots of boys, including his own son.
 

Had DS let evil people like Gailon and Bob come to 3ABN and turn over their finances to them ,I for one, would never give another dime to 3ABN. That would be very stupid, foolish and naive of DS and 3ABN.  Thank the Lord they stuck to their guns and didn't let you guys try to take over! Lord knows you two have enough of your own problems...trying dealing with them before trying to invent a beam in someone else's eye.

Again, you make no sense whatsoever. If Danny hadn't wanted us to look at 3ABN's finances, he would never have sued us in the first place over such things.

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

Was this a joke or a real observation...am I suppose to laugh or feel sympathy for a man who made it clear he did not WANT TO KNOW, but knew all tto well the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter

Maybe Gilley didn't know.

If the stockholders in the pews discover that this directorate spent over $2Million Dollars to defend a miscreant founder that had his hands in the till, my guess is they will repudiate the entire ministry and it's directorate. And that is the story that needs to be and will be told in 2009!!!

Gilley should move along before he is thoroughly tainted with the stench of what has gone on here!!! Under his watch they spent millions to defend Danny Lee hselton and they have the gall to request more???

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter

[Bob Pickle]

Yet by your own rules of judgment you lie yet have never apologized for it.
You lied to Wickepedia right?  You claimed you were a Dr. because you thought it would give you more credibility about info you were giving to them. Bob a lie is a lie is a lie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Erving

Would you be so crass as to accuse Dr. J of posing as a doctor to gain more credibility, and of lying because he claimed to be a doctor when he wasn't?

What absolute nonsense.

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

Thank you for this precious information...you see, there will be a round two and I appreciate you providing lists of documents we should be looking for...that is if you believe I am naive enough to believe there is an affidavitt from a "Licensed PI"...and what kind of PI left his camera home on a domestic case??? I really do need to know the name of this idiot!!! Did you guys pay for this fool of fools? Yes, that's right, that is the one you refused to provide the name and address for in the requests to produce. WHAT'S NEW??? ALL TALK...NO PRODUCTION!!!

Actually, let's start with the primary question: SAM, HAVE YOU SEEN THESE AFFIDAVITTS?

And yes, I can explain the AM visit...can you??? In fact, Arild was not coming out of "Linda's Apartment" but rather Linda's daughter's apartment...humm, does that change the story,  hah??? And did your "Licensed PI" forget to tell you that Johann Thorvaldsonn was also there with them as they prepared the written response to the board of directors for the Sunday morning Board Meeting? The one that Arild, Linda  and Johann were ordered not to enter the premises to attend to defend Linda against the WILD ALLEGATIONS of Danny Lee Shelton??? Did they tell you Arild had to buy a new computer, program and set it up to print because Linda's had been confiscated?

Do you really believe we don't know the real story..not the spun trash that eminates from Danny Lee Shelton?

Rest assured, SAM, in time we will get all those records and so better stop the contributions now!!! We have had enough to know that Danny Lee Shelton had his filthy hands in the offering plate, whether you like the reality or not!!!

We also know that Brenda is so factually challenged that nothing she says can be relied upon as factual!!!

And, we also know that NOT A DOT OR TITLE OF WHAT YOU WRITE is reliable or factual and is definitely uncorroborated by the evidence.

So, SAM, your time will come and we will be happy to identify the two idiot PI's that would write affidavitt's and forget the cameras. But, then, look how easy you are to dupe???

Just remember, SAM, we were not the people that ran from the fight at a critical point in the discovery, DANNY LEE SHELTON RAN!!! But, he did not get away.

Gailon Arthur Jopy
AUReporter

In answer to Bob's allegations:
 
Danny told you all along that this case was not about exposing Linda. What would a copy of a sworn affidavit by an Illinois licensed PI be worth to you Bob?
Would you believe it if the signed affidavit said that Linda and the Dr. were holding hands while walking down the street while still married to Danny (by themselves without Johann..they apparently had tucked him in bed in his own room..)  then after 10 PM went for a walk together and held hands for a bit?
Would you believe it if the sworn affidavit by the PI said that they were together in an apartment together after midnight. (Actually it was til 3:00 am).
Bob, maybe you should check Illinois law. I was told by a professional that if a married woman is in an apartment/hotel etc. together after midnight that now the burden of proof goes to the woman to prove she did not commit adultery.
 
Bob, the reason you are in the mess you are in is because rumor mongers like yourself and Gailon jump on every bit of hearsay gossip that 's out there as though it's truth. Normal reasoning goes out the window.
 
You make the statement that if Danny didn't show any info about Linda in court then he must not have any. You base that info on the fact that he didn't produce the requested info so therefore you make the dumb assumption that Linda is innocent. Bob this is the reasoning of a small child. That's why you and Gailon should not try to defend yourself. Real attorneys would not put all their marbles in the same basket and continually be wrong like you two are. The "court" did not ask DS to produce any evidence against Linda. You did. Big difference.

Do you really think DS gained the support of Board members and church leaders without giving & showing support for why he was divorced.  He has not had a problem all along giving necessary info to those that need to know. But you guys are not the kind of people that any thinking person would give any such info to. He told you that all along didn't he?
 
The reason for the lawsuit as I understand it was simple.  DS knew he had the rightful support of his board and leaders in the church when it came to the divorce.  But when you all started accusing DS and 3ABN of stealing and wrong financial doings, 3ABN felt that you should have to prove it in court. They knew all along that you couldn't prove any of your accusations of financial wrong doings. DS and the board has always had outside auditors and have also had attorneys to look over any and all financial dealings as they wanted to maintain their well earned credibility when it comes to taking donors money and investing it in the spreading of the gospel.

No matter how hard headed, prideful and arrogant you are, you were wrong to accuse DS and 3ABN of financial wrong doing.  All things work together for good according to the bible and that is what happened in my opinion when you all got the IRS involved. Why?  Because only the IRS could clear 3ABN of all your charges of wrong doing...AND THAT THEY DID!  The year long investigation was dropped without DS or 3ABN paying one penny to the IRS! 

Bob, there's no longer a reason to keep going to court over all the other ridicules things you come up with because you appear ate up with the gossip bug.  The donors have heard the truth and have spoken.  They see the fruits of 3ABN and they see your fruits of judging and being an accuser of the brethren.

A spiritual person can discern that you have become an agent of the devil by accusing the brethren. Every one makes mistakes including DS but you still, according to the bible, are not the judge, God is. He is the only one that has a right to make everyone's sins public. Sinful people including you and Gailon have no mandate to do such a thing. That's why you have no support from real Christians. Take a look at your followers. Most have records similar to you and Gailon. From convicted embezzlers, self admitted child porn addict, alleged stalker, Crooked Dr. etc,.  The bible says judge not that you be not judged. Bob, you and Gailon judged and now the judgement has fallen back on you just as the bible says.  We can see all the sins of Gailon Joy and the rest of you but at some point we have to leave you in the hands of God!  You are guilty of what you accuse others of.
 
Example. You are so quick to call people liars and say that they need to repent and apologize publically... Danny said this or Brenda said that and Walt said this and Pastor John said this so they should admit they lied and move on.  Yet by your own rules of judgment you lie yet have never apologized for it.
You lied to Wickepedia right?  You claimed you were a Dr. because you thought it would give you more credibility about info you were giving to them. Bob a lie is a lie is a lie.
 
Could we please hear you (going by your own rules)  confess that you lied to Wickapedia and to the rest of us. You see what I mean Bob?  Now should I make an all out war on you because you lied and won't admit it or do I leave your life in God's hands and let you and he work it out even though I'm still convinced that you lied.  There are churches that would drop an SDA's membership over lying to an organization like Wickepedia claiming to be a Dr. when you are far from a Dr. And Bob, didn't you tell the court you are a Pastor?  If so, isn't that a lie?  We know you are not a licensed SDA Pastor so what is the name of the church you are pastoring?  Isn't that misleading...again? Would that also be considered a lie?

Well, what do you think?  What can you say?  You accuse 3ABN of things that you yourself have done.  Your spreading of lies on the net is certainly not a secret sin. These are  lies that remove any credibility you may have had. Do I now gather support to send copies of your lie to Wickepedia to every church leader and call for your disfellowship, do I call the secular media and try to expose you?  The old saying that the pot calling the kettle black certaninly seems to apply to you.  Bob, you have lied over and over, what should we do? You cannot back up the lies about 3abn with proof. Your Wickapedia lie is on there for all the world to see.  Didn't Gailon lie to the bankruptcy court? Again, that is in the pacer documents.

Let me throw something out to you and see if you can follow me.  What if Danny never owned any proof that Linda and the Dr. were holding hands walking down the street together? Does that mean that whomever paid for the PI report didn't have the proof?  Absolutely not!  There as been strong hints all along that Danny never paid for a PI but that someone else did. Do you think that Danny has seen the proof including some video of the two together without Johann present?

I would say that there is more than a good chance that he has..wouldn't you!  Don't you realize just because you didn't see something in court that it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. The owner of the info was never told by the court to show it! You really shouldn't try to be lawyers. You should try to do as the bible says though and be bread winners for your families. I know of no one who has a high opinion of Gailon because not only is he a convicted felon but still denies that he did anything wrong. OOPS!  By the way shouldn't he be apologizing to the public for what he did and stop lying about it?
Neither of you are bread winners for your families. Honestly how sad that you have put on the robe of judge rather than put on the mantle of head of the house and bread winner as God ordained. Why not let God be the judge and you guys support your families?
 
From what I am privy to it seems that DS has told you all along the he will not give into the demands of arrogant self proclaimed judges, with evil intent. No way in the world would any President of any company allow a Gailon Joy for instance to come and do a financial investigation by an unqualified convicted felon (embezzler)  just because the convicted felon is demanding that he be allowed access to 3ABN's finances.
 
Had DS let evil people like Gailon and Bob come to 3ABN and turn over their finances to them ,I for one, would never give another dime to 3ABN. That would be very stupid, foolish and naive of DS and 3ABN.  Thank the Lord they stuck to their guns and didn't let you guys try to take over! Lord knows you two have enough of your own problems...trying dealing with them before trying to invent a beam in someone else's eye.

[Johann]

Below I see samples of what two different people write as they describe incidents which they did not take part in themselves, and where they rely on reports from others. I was there and I know what happened, and I have to say there are faults in both what Gailon Arthur Joy states, and also in what the so-called Sam states. Neither one of them were there and therefore neither story gives a complete picture of exactly what happened, although Gailon's mistake is so minor that it does not change the general picture. Sam's description, on the other hand changes the picture completely and is unreliable.

This is the general problem I have encountered in this whole discussion, also in four other forums. Ever since Aletheia/ian/Synthian entered the discussions she has again and again made changes and re-statements of whatever information I have given,  in a way that I could not recognize some of the major points in her presentation. Even though I have protested again and again, she has stubbornly maintained that her version of my statements are the only true ones, and since she has discovered that her version was not the real truth, I have again and again been stamped a liar. This, to me is the gist of your contribution to this whole discussion, and this is the falsehood your forum thrives on. Your thwarted versions of what I and others have stated becomes the basis of the religion  you proclaim, and you feed your faithful followers on this falsehood. You even use Scripture quotations etc., in an attempt to justify such utter falsehood.

A worldly person might excuse your method by pointing out how the institution you are defending is doing it and how they use millions of dollars in an attempt to falsify the facts. And yet neither you, nor Danny Shelton, nor 3ABN has yet produced a single document nor other evidence to verify that what I have stated all this time is wrong.

Thank you for this precious information...you see, there will be a round two and I appreciate you providing lists of documents we should be looking for...that is if you believe I am naive enough to believe there is an affidavitt from a "Licensed PI"...and what kind of PI left his camera home on a domestic case??? I really do need to know the name of this idiot!!! Did you guys pay for this fool of fools? Yes, that's right, that is the one you refused to provide the name and address for in the requests to produce. WHAT'S NEW??? ALL TALK...NO PRODUCTION!!!

Actually, let's start with the primary question: SAM, HAVE YOU SEEN THESE AFFIDAVITTS?

And yes, I can explain the AM visit...can you??? In fact, Arild was not coming out of "Linda's Apartment" but rather Linda's daughter's apartment...humm, does that change the story,  hah??? And did your "Licensed PI" forget to tell you that Johann Thorvaldsonn was also there with them as they prepared the written response to the board of directors for the Sunday morning Board Meeting? The one that Arild, Linda  and Johann were ordered not to enter the premises to attend to defend Linda against the WILD ALLEGATIONS of Danny Lee Shelton??? Did they tell you Arild had to buy a new computer, program and set it up to print because Linda's had been confiscated?

Do you really believe we don't know the real story..not the spun trash that eminates from Danny Lee Shelton?

Rest assured, SAM, in time we will get all those records and so better stop the contributions now!!! We have had enough to know that Danny Lee Shelton had his filthy hands in the offering plate, whether you like the reality or not!!!

We also know that Brenda is so factually challenged that nothing she says can be relied upon as factual!!!

And, we also know that NOT A DOT OR TITLE OF WHAT YOU WRITE is reliable or factual and is definitely uncorroborated by the evidence.

So, SAM, your time will come and we will be happy to identify the two idiot PI's that would write affidavitt's and forget the cameras. But, then, look how easy you are to dupe???

Just remember, SAM, we were not the people that ran from the fight at a critical point in the discovery, DANNY LEE SHELTON RAN!!! But, he did not get away.

Gailon Arthur Jopy
AUReporter

In answer to Bob's allegations:
 
Danny told you all along that this case was not about exposing Linda. What would a copy of a sworn affidavit by an Illinois licensed PI be worth to you Bob?
Would you believe it if the signed affidavit said that Linda and the Dr. were holding hands while walking down the street while still married to Danny (by themselves without Johann..they apparently had tucked him in bed in his own room..)  then after 10 PM went for a walk together and held hands for a bit?
Would you believe it if the sworn affidavit by the PI said that they were together in an apartment together after midnight. (Actually it was til 3:00 am).
Bob, maybe you should check Illinois law. I was told by a professional that if a married woman is in an apartment/hotel etc. together after midnight that now the burden of proof goes to the woman to prove she did not commit adultery.
 
Bob, the reason you are in the mess you are in is because rumor mongers like yourself and Gailon jump on every bit of hearsay gossip that 's out there as though it's truth. Normal reasoning goes out the window.
 
You make the statement that if Danny didn't show any info about Linda in court then he must not have any. You base that info on the fact that he didn't produce the requested info so therefore you make the dumb assumption that Linda is innocent. Bob this is the reasoning of a small child. That's why you and Gailon should not try to defend yourself. Real attorneys would not put all their marbles in the same basket and continually be wrong like you two are. The "court" did not ask DS to produce any evidence against Linda. You did. Big difference.

Do you really think DS gained the support of Board members and church leaders without giving & showing support for why he was divorced.  He has not had a problem all along giving necessary info to those that need to know. But you guys are not the kind of people that any thinking person would give any such info to. He told you that all along didn't he?
 
The reason for the lawsuit as I understand it was simple.  DS knew he had the rightful support of his board and leaders in the church when it came to the divorce.  But when you all started accusing DS and 3ABN of stealing and wrong financial doings, 3ABN felt that you should have to prove it in court. They knew all along that you couldn't prove any of your accusations of financial wrong doings. DS and the board has always had outside auditors and have also had attorneys to look over any and all financial dealings as they wanted to maintain their well earned credibility when it comes to taking donors money and investing it in the spreading of the gospel.

No matter how hard headed, prideful and arrogant you are, you were wrong to accuse DS and 3ABN of financial wrong doing.  All things work together for good according to the bible and that is what happened in my opinion when you all got the IRS involved. Why?  Because only the IRS could clear 3ABN of all your charges of wrong doing...AND THAT THEY DID!  The year long investigation was dropped without DS or 3ABN paying one penny to the IRS! 

Bob, there's no longer a reason to keep going to court over all the other ridicules things you come up with because you appear ate up with the gossip bug.  The donors have heard the truth and have spoken.  They see the fruits of 3ABN and they see your fruits of judging and being an accuser of the brethren.

A spiritual person can discern that you have become an agent of the devil by accusing the brethren. Every one makes mistakes including DS but you still, according to the bible, are not the judge, God is. He is the only one that has a right to make everyone's sins public. Sinful people including you and Gailon have no mandate to do such a thing. That's why you have no support from real Christians. Take a look at your followers. Most have records similar to you and Gailon. From convicted embezzlers, self admitted child porn addict, alleged stalker, Crooked Dr. etc,.  The bible says judge not that you be not judged. Bob, you and Gailon judged and now the judgement has fallen back on you just as the bible says.  We can see all the sins of Gailon Joy and the rest of you but at some point we have to leave you in the hands of God!  You are guilty of what you accuse others of.
 
Example. You are so quick to call people liars and say that they need to repent and apologize publically... Danny said this or Brenda said that and Walt said this and Pastor John said this so they should admit they lied and move on.  Yet by your own rules of judgment you lie yet have never apologized for it.
You lied to Wickepedia right?  You claimed you were a Dr. because you thought it would give you more credibility about info you were giving to them. Bob a lie is a lie is a lie.
 
Could we please hear you (going by your own rules)  confess that you lied to Wickapedia and to the rest of us. You see what I mean Bob?  Now should I make an all out war on you because you lied and won't admit it or do I leave your life in God's hands and let you and he work it out even though I'm still convinced that you lied.  There are churches that would drop an SDA's membership over lying to an organization like Wickepedia claiming to be a Dr. when you are far from a Dr. And Bob, didn't you tell the court you are a Pastor?  If so, isn't that a lie?  We know you are not a licensed SDA Pastor so what is the name of the church you are pastoring?  Isn't that misleading...again? Would that also be considered a lie?

Well, what do you think?  What can you say?  You accuse 3ABN of things that you yourself have done.  Your spreading of lies on the net is certainly not a secret sin. These are  lies that remove any credibility you may have had. Do I now gather support to send copies of your lie to Wickepedia to every church leader and call for your disfellowship, do I call the secular media and try to expose you?  The old saying that the pot calling the kettle black certaninly seems to apply to you.  Bob, you have lied over and over, what should we do? You cannot back up the lies about 3abn with proof. Your Wickapedia lie is on there for all the world to see.  Didn't Gailon lie to the bankruptcy court? Again, that is in the pacer documents.

Let me throw something out to you and see if you can follow me.  What if Danny never owned any proof that Linda and the Dr. were holding hands walking down the street together? Does that mean that whomever paid for the PI report didn't have the proof?  Absolutely not!  There as been strong hints all along that Danny never paid for a PI but that someone else did. Do you think that Danny has seen the proof including some video of the two together without Johann present?

I would say that there is more than a good chance that he has..wouldn't you!  Don't you realize just because you didn't see something in court that it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. The owner of the info was never told by the court to show it! You really shouldn't try to be lawyers. You should try to do as the bible says though and be bread winners for your families. I know of no one who has a high opinion of Gailon because not only is he a convicted felon but still denies that he did anything wrong. OOPS!  By the way shouldn't he be apologizing to the public for what he did and stop lying about it?
Neither of you are bread winners for your families. Honestly how sad that you have put on the robe of judge rather than put on the mantle of head of the house and bread winner as God ordained. Why not let God be the judge and you guys support your families?
 
From what I am privy to it seems that DS has told you all along the he will not give into the demands of arrogant self proclaimed judges, with evil intent. No way in the world would any President of any company allow a Gailon Joy for instance to come and do a financial investigation by an unqualified convicted felon (embezzler)  just because the convicted felon is demanding that he be allowed access to 3ABN's finances.
 
Had DS let evil people like Gailon and Bob come to 3ABN and turn over their finances to them ,I for one, would never give another dime to 3ABN. That would be very stupid, foolish and naive of DS and 3ABN.  Thank the Lord they stuck to their guns and didn't let you guys try to take over! Lord knows you two have enough of your own problems...trying dealing with them before trying to invent a beam in someone else's eye.

[Bob Pickle]

Neither of you are bread winners for your families. Honestly how sad that you have put on the robe of judge rather than put on the mantle of head of the house and bread winner as God ordained. Why not let God be the judge and you guys support your families?

How would you know? Really, how would you know? Did the tyrant of Thompsonville hire PI's to come up with that? Or are you manufacturing and spreading rumors? Tell us, please.

Further, how dare anyone file an anti-Adventist, anti-First Amendment lawsuit against someone who doesn't have the millions that 3ABN has at its disposal, forcing them to represent themselves, and then taunt them about not supporting their family because they have to spend so much of their time researching the law and writing legal briefs.

How dare you.

[Bob Pickle]

Real attorneys would not put all their marbles in the same basket and continually be wrong like you two are.

Real attorneys? A long time ago my opinion was that Garwin wasn't getting his money's worth. I thought someone maybe ought to tell him.

I wonder just how many on the other side wish I had hired a "real attorney" rather than represent myself.

"Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God" (Ps. 20:7).

That was put to music. Know the tune? Let's contextualize the words:

"Some trust in lawyers, like Danny Shelton: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God."

[Sam]

Neither of you are bread winners for your families. Honestly how sad that you have put on the robe of judge rather than put on the mantle of head of the house and bread winner as God ordained. Why not let God be the judge and you guys support your families?

How would you know? Really, how would you know? Did the tyrant of Thompsonville hire PI's to come up with that? Or are you manufacturing and spreading rumors? Tell us, please.

Further, how dare anyone file an anti-Adventist, anti-First Amendment lawsuit against someone who doesn't have the millions that 3ABN has at its disposal, forcing them to represent themselves, and then taunt them about not supporting their family because they have to spend so much of their time researching the law and writing legal briefs.

How dare you.

    How Dare I?  Bob you have been digging your own grave for 2 years and with your attempted justification above, you just covered up the hole.  Even the few people left that read this forum can see how sick and twisted your thinking is. You are totally without reason, common sense or conscience.  I truly feel sorry for your family.

I really think you need to chill down, pop some popcorn gather the kids and watch the Shelton Holiday Special tomorrow morning.  Watch what scary, demented people they are.

[Bob Pickle]

I do think it a bit demented for Carol to cover for Tommy. It's sick. Utterly sick.

Carol, Danny, and Ronnie all in cahoots trying to cover up child molestation allegations. It is sick.

And if you don't think so, then you are a bit sick yourself.

But the tyrant of Thompsonville just couldn't stand someone exposing his cover up of the child molestation allegations against Tommy, and so he sued us. He tried to shut us up by filing a lawsuit. He tried to smash our First Amendment rights to free speech and free press. He tried to destroy our First Amendment right of freedom of religion to say that Danny Lee Shelton is not morally fit to head up a supporting ministry of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

And you think that's funny?

[scratsmom]

    How Dare I?  Bob you have been digging your own grave for 2 years and with your attempted justification above, you just covered up the hole.  Even the few people left that read this forum can see how sick and twisted your thinking is. You are totally without reason, common sense or conscience.  I truly feel sorry for your family.

I really think you need to chill down, pop some popcorn gather the kids and watch the Shelton Holiday Special tomorrow morning.  Watch what scary, demented people they are.

Speak for yourself, Sam. You wanna give your opinion, fine. Don't assume you know what the "few people left that read this forum" are thinking.

[tinka]

and so Sam,

Just to surmise that everything you said was true, and with you so close to the long neck black swan swiminning in the bottomless lake, how is it that your eyeballs do not see what my eyeballs see? Do you deny extravaganza in lifestyle? You got jets, you got horses, you got sports cars, you got rolex's you got property, off shore funds, you got more spouses, you got books, turtle necks, transplants, special geet tars, ebay specialities. And Oh, yes I suspect you will say next that his geet tars is how he made all that moolaa. Does this make any sense to you! Silly? Crazy? and out of sorts? Off the wall?  That is just about the same as what I get off your post. In fact the   are waiting to be fed. That must be your job!

Nobody went looking for this Saga, no body wanted a saga like this, if fact some tried to save it, but others covered it--any of this, until 3abn was disrupted and seen with the eyeball as TV rolled by. IF no smoke, how could there be fire! You must be in your own world to think normal people would not eyeball this sooner or later. NOBody would even be in this if their funds weren't all shot in vapor off the jet stream and fertilizer all over the ground!
How is that for reality??

[Gailon Arthur Joy]

Hey, SAM, Let's just say, I have been busy cleaning up a mess...while you have been busy covering one up. I'll take cleaning up over covering up any day!!!

But, you must really hate the 12 Disciples, particularly the married ones!!! And what of Paul? Guess you would really tar and feather him!!! And since you bring it up, when was the last time you made a living and not work off other peoples money? After all, isn't that what 3ABN is all about? In fact, isn't that what any 501-(c)-3 is about? Get other people to contribute their hard earned dollars so you can spend them doing what you want to do?

Of course, Danny Lee Shelton took that to a new level and decided, yes, decided to spend the dollars the way he wanted to spend them, not the way the board wanted them spent...and isn't that the elementary issue here???

But you would have us the issue while the man with his hands in the Till gets a pass from your pathetic religion!!! And don't you dare call yourself a Seventh-day Adventist...you would belittle the denomination by doing so.

Gailon Arthur Joy
AUReporter

Neither of you are bread winners for your families. Honestly how sad that you have put on the robe of judge rather than put on the mantle of head of the house and bread winner as God ordained. Why not let God be the judge and you guys support your families?

How would you know? Really, how would you know? Did the tyrant of Thompsonville hire PI's to come up with that? Or are you manufacturing and spreading rumors? Tell us, please.

Further, how dare anyone file an anti-Adventist, anti-First Amendment lawsuit against someone who doesn't have the millions that 3ABN has at its disposal, forcing them to represent themselves, and then taunt them about not supporting their family because they have to spend so much of their time researching the law and writing legal briefs.

How dare you.

    How Dare I?  Bob you have been digging your own grave for 2 years and with your attempted justification above, you just covered up the hole.  Even the few people left that read this forum can see how sick and twisted your thinking is. You are totally without reason, common sense or conscience.  I truly feel sorry for your family.

I really think you need to chill down, pop some popcorn gather the kids and watch the Shelton Holiday Special tomorrow morning.  Watch what scary, demented people they are.